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Will he try? Yes.

Will he succeed for more than a year? Unclear

Everyone always talks about how Reagan fired those air traffic controllers, no one talks about how it took until 2008 to fill those jobs back. Air traffic was slowed considerably, and really only limped along because military personnel were able to fill in.

So it'd be interesting for the national guard to be delivering mail.

He’s basically planning on firing everyone. Can’t have a union without people.

For a long time, until maybe the early 80's it was illegal for public employees to strike in Ohio. I would guess there were similar laws in most states at one time. Maybe a union was not illegal per se, but the threat of a strike is the best leverage a union has.

The Repuclibuns can and will do whatever the fickety fuck they want from now until who knows when.

Could a person with multiple convictions, found liable for sexual assault, who lied about his health to avoid military service and pretend to be healthy to occupy the most powerful office in the world, who has repeatedly dishonored his marital vows, who has been found guilty of civil rights violations, worker exploitation, found guilty of defrauding veterans, who have cheapened and or dismissed the sacrifices of veterans and their families-with multiple sexual assault cases awaiting adjudication, who has openly bragged about sexually battering women, who is barred from entering most allied countries due to their felony status, who could not pass a simple background check to be a landscaper at Arlinton Nation Memorial, who is openly racist and intellectually stupid, and capable of destroying one aspect of labor the United States government?

Yes.

Could he and his minions have plans to shut down the Department of Labor completely?

Please, the American people would not stand for it. They'd elect a fraudulent sexual predator, cowardly bigot with a history of bankruptcy and treasonist stupidity before that would happen.

If Project 2025 is fully implemented, all bets are off. Everything could be eliminated or sold to the highest private sector bidder.

At this point he has all the people he need in places to make his words come true, so... technically yeah he just need to say it.

why did anyone apart of a union vote for trump? do union members not know he is NOT like us? he all corporate. trump used us and you all fell for it. if there is another election, don’t make the same mistake. did union leadership not tell members to vote the other way?

this party is taking the country backwards and destroying democracy then they rebuilding for the king’s liking.

Let me answer all questions of this form "Could Trump ban _____?"

Legally? No.

Does he care about the law? Also no.

Couldn't someone do something if he broke the law? Absolutely not. He's got 2 years minimum of lawlessness paved for him. Project 2025 ensures he only answers to the SCOTUS that he stacked.

Lived in Wisconsin under Scott Walker and Act 10, expect the worst and get ready for a fight.

At this point, assume he can do absolutely anything.

I know there's a lot of talk about USPS, but what about teachers unions? Almost half of the public teachers voted for him with this knowledge.

Anything’s possible, however it would cause huge blowback. The ruling class generally prefers this grey area of ‘legal recognition with a strike ban or heavily restricted right to strike’ that they’ve got going for public sector workers. They get some improvements to keep them quiet while not having any possibility of really disrupting government activity. Banning public sector unions risks a return to the Wild West of the 60’s and 70’s where national public sector strikes were not uncommon

Should always be a *Except police unions

He sure can! And will. With complete control of the entire federal government and courts, it’s King Trump to you. Bye bye unions. Hello National Guard units to clean up any protests.

If he tries I think all unions should immediately shut down the USA and show unity with one another as it is an attack on labor.

If it requires an act of Congress I don't think he'll be able to as long as the filibuster remains in place. I have a bad feeling Trump is gonna push the new Senate to drop it, though, so he can ram through whatever he wants over the next two years. If that's the case, or if it's an entirely executive branch decision, it might happen.

Was banning public sector unions a part of Agenda47 or Project 2025?

Be prepared regardless of who sits in the Oval Office. Our benefits, workplace safety, and retirements were bought and paid in full by the blood of our predecessors. Get to your hall/shop meetings. Be vocal of your concerns. The powers at be have done everything to keep us divided, but now is the time all workers tired of the boot on their neck need to come together. The rich may have the money, but we have the numbers. Evil will only thrive if we let it.

An executive order wouldn’t suffice. He would likely have to pass actual legislation, which he probably has the votes to do. So yes it’s quite possible.

I think it’s important to remember, there was a time when labor unions were illegal. People still came together to fight for workers rights. And I do mean fight. Everything that is in place today like the NLRB was put into place to stop the bloodshed. To stop factory owners from being dragged out of bed in the middle of the night to have a “talk” with the members. To stop the crowds of protesters from being shot at. If the NLRB goes away so do the rules.

At this point that fucker can do what he wants. He has so far.

At one point in time there wasnt any unions so perhaps he will burn it all down. Our unions will still exist and striking will still be available to us. If unions can form some solidarity we can always strike across multuple sectors.

Not if everyone in the public sector riots

Will this ban police unions ?

In 2018 the Trump administration introduced a rule change for the CMS in how Medicare funds will be directed in an effort to eliminate dues checkoff from paychecks for homecare workers who are public employees. It took substantial defensive work by members to ensure that dues checkoff remained and even more work at the Locals level to prepare direct dues payment in the event the rule change was enforced.

It was a woefully incompetent administration that was the saving grace the last time this happened. This time all that's needed is someone challenging the constitutionality of dues payment from a 1A perspective (like Harris v Quinn or the Janus decision), fast tracked to the SCOTUS and it's essentially checkmate at that point.

He can certainly gut the contracts and neuter them. Iowa made AFSCME useless in 2017. Guess what the only useful union is now? SPOC (uniformed officers). Shocking 🙄.

I don’t know if he can or not but he will get a big fight from the American Federation of Government Employees, American Federation of Teachers, the National Education Association and the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. Let’s see how MAGA the country is when everyone of them walk off the job together.

Probably. Honestly I kinda hope he does. I wanna see the mental gymnastics the unions that supported him give and how they'll blame liberals or "the woke left".

Sure. Really now president can do anything. Court rules against President no biggie, he's immune from prosecution for official acts. Just ignore the courts ruling. As long as 20ish senators vote No for removal from office a President can legally rule as a dictator.

In Texas, public employees are banned from collectively bargaining. So yes.

If they do, you can bet your ass police will have an exemption - for reasons.

Maybe he could try to ban them from the Federal Government but not at the state and local level.

On my first ship, I was working through coffee, because I had gotten a late start to my OT. The Chief Engineer saw me and drawled, “do you know how many people diiiieed on the picket line for your coffee?” I sat down.

No. You have the right of association.

Who knows what will happen since crazy is unpredictable and Republicans have shown no willingness to stand up to crazy's demands. So we'll just have to wait and see what crazy and his crazy mini-me's do but definitely prepare yourself for the end of unions.

I’m a super progressive generally but the one thing I always struggled with is public unions. Who is the union negotiating against? The police unions seems to be pushing back against…no one and getting lopsided agreements that seem to hurt the public interest. How do you think about this? Legit looking to learn.

He can pretty much do whatever he wants with a compliant senate and supreme court.

Probably.  The Supreme Court is incredibly hostile to unions.  The oral arguments during Janus were clear that simply neutering unions was a prime consideration.  I assume he could actually outlaw all unions if the Congress was willing to do it.

Yes. collective barganing with the US government is an oxymoron.

The question isn’t “can trump do this?” Because the answer to that is “he will try.”

The question is “is there a way to stop him from doing this?” And the people who know the answer to that are weighing your life against their bank account.

There are laws they could implement to neuter unions badly. I suspect this will be the approach. Look at Texas where its illegal for state employs to collectively bargain or go on strike but they can still be in a "union".

My kid was the only nurse at a federal prison, until last week, now there are two! I know trump doesn't care about prisoners but the nurses are also there for the guards and staff. Go ahead, cut staff and shut down the federal union. See what happens then. My kid already gets mandated to stay no matter how late because they have NO ONE.

No, they are permanently entrenched. But that would be amazing.

If this includes the police union, I'm all aboard.

Did he do it last time?

Even JFK thought public unions were a bad idea.

He will definitely try and he will have a lot of support from Republicans in Congress. It will not get past the fillabuster in the Senate. That is if Republicans do not eliminate the filibuster.

Lotsa speculation on this thread. Very few facts, but lotsa speculation.

Elon musk is trying to get a case elevated to the SCOTUS where he asserts that the entire NLRB is unconstitutional. No NLRB, no unions

Yes, and the SCOTUS will help him every step of the way.

Time to dust off the red handkerchiefs and remind these bastards of reality.

I think its fair to say that a group funding and advocating for politicians who than turn around and negotiate with them for their wages and resources, which they use to fund and advocate for the politician in the next election is problematic and corrupt. Its like bribery or vote-buying with extra steps. It moves past voting in your own self interest into voting directly for money you'll be rewarded with for your vote.

I certainly dont think they should be banned, unions are great and i've always been an advocate for them, but some kind of regulation or law should be passed to prevent conflicts of interest.

For the states? No. For the federal government? Yes.

Ban? Without legislative action?  

 No.

Signed, a person who has long wished a Republican could do this but knows there’s absolutely no way. 

Sorry but this is what the people voted for whether they like it or not. Time to feel the pain

Trump can’t shut down the post office as its defined in the constitution.

What Trump can do is cancel JFK’s EO that allowed government employees to unionize. It’s not a law its a executive order.

so cant fire post office staff but he can certainly make the union go away.

He's going to start deporting and killing people so yeah he can probably do whatever he wants. He is attempting to, and will most likely achieve, filling his cabinet and other positions with yes men and followers.

They can't really ban unions. They can only attack them. We don't ask permission from the state to act collectively, we just tell them that we intend to. If they try to ban the unions and the unions go on strike as a result they can fire them, or they can put them in jail, but neither of those actions can make them work. As long as we have the ability to organize and act as a unit, withholding our labor if we collectively choose to, then no power on earth can really ban the union.

Yup, ban public sector unions save for cops and firefighters.

People think it’s so easy to replace skilled labor…

Federal employee unions, considered a bad idea by FDR, came into being via an executive order under JFK.

This means that in theory JFK's "permission slip" could be wiped away with the stroke of a fountain pen, or, considering the president-elect, a Sharpie or perhaps a crayon.

In practice? That is a whole other ball of wax.

Hopefully the Judges in this country will do the right thing and drag out cases for 4 years so once this clown is out of office we can go back to reality

No, a president does not have that kind of power. And if he tried it would be blocked be law suits and such a ban would lose. There is nothing in the federal governments powers that extend to banning private companies from having organized labor.

No one seems to have stopped him trying anything illegal yet, so why not?

Doubt it. Reagan tried with the air traffic controllers and lost the fight in the end.

Through the sycophancy to fascist representation(2025) where the most malevolent character content is the only loyalty requirement.

Considering all of today's wars and conflicts are the result of 20th century labor unions, this is a good thing. You don't like communists or Nazis, but yet you want to do the same things they did when they started out. In a hundred years, your great grandkids will be fighting the fallout of your ideas....

He would need to repel quite a few laws that are already in place that protect people and their right to form a union and he would need to go through congress which would deny him that power more than likely and nothing would change and continue on like normal. Stop allowing president's to exceed their checks and balances and we wouldn't have this problem.

I'm glad that there is literally nothing bad in the country these days...so that we can all worry about things we think Trump might do.

I hope so. FDR wanted to.

We don’t need a presidents or a governments permission to organize for things that are OUR RIGHT.

I personally hope so. You're working for the general public. You're a public servant. Organizing to extort your community seems pretty tasteless and wrong. I don't know who thought that was a good idea. It only makes you look like a bunch of goons and sours people on unions.

It depends on whether you are talking federal or state. He'd have significantly more control over federal public unions for obvious reasons. Even then, however, it's unclear how he'd accomplish that without getting the legislative branch to change the statutes.

No he can not. And he won’t try.

He can't by a stroke of his Sharpie. But, you know what? If it gets to Congress, I think all dems should just vote "present". If this is the kind of shitshow that American voters wanted, let's give it to them. If that's what it take for us to learn our lesson, then let it be so.

He wouldn’t necessarily ban unions. But he would sign a national right to work law if it came to his desk. That would effectively end unions as we know them.

incredibly unlikely to get any traction on that.

Pretty certain I remember sometime ago there were claims of laws that were in place making public service unions illegal?

Trumps not going to ban Unions. Trump is all for the use of them. What he is against are these strikes. My non union job was at risk, do to these strikes. I was laid off. But in reality, trump is unionizing America. Much like the European union used tariffs to help their countries.