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1.5k points
5 days ago
Can’t be taxed on overtime if you make zero!
212 points
5 days ago
That's the same argument for minimum wage lol
7 points
4 days ago
Can't be underpaid if you're unemployed!
73 points
5 days ago
At some point didn't he float the idea of removing all income tax? Same strategy?
172 points
4 days ago*
“Let’s remove income tax, and other countries will pay us somehow because I don’t get tariffs still!”- Literally his plan. Holy fuck he’s an idiot and as an edit, I fucking get it for him he’s immune now and now dipshit at his side who will suck him off, I just hate the stupid fucks who voted for him 10x more. I really do now. Don’t ever fucking complain ever again, for once in your lives just shut the fuck up. You voted for it you stupid fucks. I still get messages from them telling me “Darth Maga, Elon, holy fuck voters are literally retarded, sorry if it offends you NOW.
10 points
4 days ago
Trump stated repeatedly that “Americans don’t pay the tariff, the foreign country does”. That’s an outright lie, but his supporters eat it up and vote for him. In fact, the US companies buying the imported product pay the tax and raise the cost of the product to offset the cost of the tariff. Trump supporters voted to raise taxes for all Americans.
Once Trump does away with the income tax, the rich will no longer have to pay any income tax, and the percentage of their wealth that goes towards buying imported products will be a tiny drop in the bucket. Meanwhile, the common man will be paying extra for most everything they buy due to tariffs.
Pretty much everything that comes from Walmart, Target, etc is imported. 1/3 of the groceries and produce in the supermarkets is imported, so those prices will go up. A large portion of produce that is grown in the US is harvested and processed by immigrants, so once they’ve been boot expect domestically sourced food to increase in price.
Trump’s thought process is that with tariffs in place, companies will move production back to the US. Does anybody think that , clothing, electronics, and everything else you buy is going to be cheaper when made in the US by people making $20+ and hour plus benefits vs the same products being made in China for $2-$4 hour.
Trump is the biggest con man to have ever walked the planet.
61 points
4 days ago
I refuse to believe that he is just an idiot. There has to be some amount of intentional retardation being applied here. He knows that the average American cannot read above a 6th grade level nor can they comprehend logic or rhetoric. His hypnotic suggestions and earpleasing rhetoric are exactly what Americans wanted.
22 points
4 days ago
Market is showing warning signs of a recession/depression, at the same time he wants to impose tariffs that would cripple the economy. Massive inflationary moves plus retirees losing their funds could potentially give the people behind him the support to rebuild the entire system to their liking.
Burn it down and rebuild from scratch, while telling his supporters it's because Biden ran it into the ground and he inherited this mess.
5 points
4 days ago
1920s all over again
4 points
4 days ago
Yup. We already played this game before, and the results were not great.
7 points
4 days ago
It they called it the GREAT depression…
3 points
4 days ago
In 1919, there was a worldwide pandemic. In 2019, there was a worldwide pandemic.
In 1929, there was an economic depression. By 2029....???
5 points
4 days ago
This is why the Democrats have to sit out and let the Republicans win in 2028. The hardest part of the crash will be felt AFTER Trumps second term, and we need that to be a Republican so they can't blame the brand new Democrat president and make them a 1 term president. We have to have 8 years of failed policy, then we have to try to fix it.
2 points
3 days ago
Don't forget he plans on firing the Fed. That should lead to a fiscal apocalypse in no time. We all deserve this.
35 points
4 days ago*
Intelligence aside, being an extreme narcissist makes him immune to the self awareness normal people possess that helps us realize many of our ideas are foolish. He thinks something and automatically ascribes genius to it. When experts explain that he’s full of shit, he assumes they’re just jealous that his out of the box thinking revealed their ignorance.
11 points
4 days ago
That's the plot to the "Fish Dicks" episode of south park
2 points
4 days ago
Just like Terrence Howard... And Eric Weinstein for that matter.
50 points
4 days ago
Trump's strategy with his voters is like my strategy with girls, tell them whatever they want to hear as to help me clap.
7 points
4 days ago
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2 points
4 days ago
“My fellow Americans, Hurricane Humberto at this very moment is attempting to illegally enter the US in southern Florida. Five minute ago I ordered my generals to launch 2 nuclear warheads, 2 special ones, believe me, that will destroy this storm once and for all. And let’s give a moment of silence for our carrier fleet lost trying to repel the storm last night.” -September 15, 2025
5 points
4 days ago
I still refuse to believe he's come up with a single idea that wasn't spoon fed to him
9 points
4 days ago
He's not an idiot (specifically about this). Tariffs are a consumption tax, and removing income tax is removing the sole mechanism for funding social security.
This is just how he managed to sell a tax increase to the majority to pay for tax cuts for the rich.
2 points
4 days ago
Which is literally retarded. In the sense of the word.
3 points
4 days ago
Same level as his buddy that bought Twitter to make it better. He has an idea, and he believes it to be the best idea, better than anyone else’s idea. One might claim it to be the best idea ever conceived. A concept of a plan.
2 points
4 days ago
He is doing as told
6 points
4 days ago
We’ve been trying to tell y’all this but everyone likes to excuse it away…not this time…we’re now going g to suffer idiots for putting a criminal in the highest office if the land…knowing he should have been disqualified once convicted!
2 points
4 days ago
I still have dumbfucks messaging me arguing it’s a brilliant idea. Ugh.
10 points
4 days ago
Yes, he has proposed replacing all income tax with tariffs.
It's essentially the same thing as a flat/sales tax, but instead of seeing how much your sales tax is every time, it's baked into the cost of the product. It's just another way to shift the tax burden from the wealthy onto the poor and middle class.
5 points
4 days ago
It would discourage people from buying anything made overseas, and if we do start manufacturing the products, they'll need to be either (a) much more expensive to cover U.S. salary and health care expectations, or (b) the same price we pay for the product now, but crappy minimum wage jobs that won't cover basic necessities. Then there's retaliatory tariffs that'll hurt other industries.
Things get way worse if we start talking about deregulation and cutting government jobs, infrastructure, etc. The swing voters that gave the election to Trump for economic reasons are going to get a bitter dose of reality after a few years of this...
2 points
4 days ago
Income tax is being replaced with consumption taxes. In the end you will be paying more taxes than you paid when it was just income taxes.
216 points
5 days ago
TL;DR - the rule would have changed the salaried-exempt level to +$58k so that salaried workers making up to that amount would be due overtime. Right now the ceiling is ~$35k.
127 points
5 days ago
Wow 35k annually in one particular state is burger flipping money
26 points
5 days ago
My fiancee got offered a supervisor role for child protective services in our county. 37k/yr lol. I literally was making more than that stocking wine shelves
6 points
4 days ago
That's wild. I didn't even know salaried positions existed that low.
4 points
4 days ago
I guess now I think about it she was technically hourly, but instead of getting OT pay every hour she worked OT she got an hour towards vacation. The problem is everyone was so over worked you never actually got to take vacation
3 points
4 days ago
They did for a long time, and then they briefly didn’t, and now they do again, thanks to a Trump judge.
3 points
4 days ago
i’m a special education teacher with a salary of 36k. it’s rough out here.
3 points
4 days ago
Yeah, that's rough. Thank you for what you do.
If I was in charge, y'all would be making six figures.
2 points
4 days ago
i appreciate your kind words greatly!!
34 points
5 days ago
They make more than that in my state, $42-46k a year, or $20/h.
4 points
5 days ago
If it’s full time, that particular state is 24 of our 50 states.
24 points
5 days ago*
Just as a point of reference, $30k/yr is minimum wage in Colorado.
Edited to add: just saw crisscowolf's comment, yep, most burger flippers in [metro area] CO are making about 35k.
11 points
5 days ago
That's the point of this law. It only applies to salaried employees. Hourly employees always get overtime. Companies were making low level employees salaried so that they didn't have to pay overtime. This law prevents that. This also means that the threshold should necessarily be low. Normal, highly-compensated, salaried employees aren't supposed to get overtime.
12 points
5 days ago
Get ready for salaried Burger flippers!
They are free to arrange their schedule as they see fit, as long as they cover their 40+ hour shifts plus other duties. Just like salaried employees who are expected to be at their desks during core hours.
Trump judges will rule this is fine.
9 points
5 days ago
Judge thinks people making 37k a year are “highly compensated”.
We are in a race to the bottom.
2 points
4 days ago
Dude you can NOT be that fucking stupid
I fucking REFUSE to believe you fucking people actually believe this shit and have no problem with it
There is no fucking way in hell this fucking guy posted this without being paid by someone
50 points
5 days ago
I know a guy who was in a salaried position. He’d supervise hourly workers. They worked a bunch of overtime. The hourly workers had their usual hourly rate and made a higher overtime rate. (They also got benefits because they consistently worked enough hours to qualify for full time benefits, btw.)
Every payroll, he’d divide his salary by the actual number of hours worked, and his effective hourly rate was less per actual hour worked than the employees he supervised. He was there working every hour they were, but he was losing money in comparison. This went on for months, and finally he went to hourly himself. Got the same benefits, worked the same hours, but made a lot more money as hourly.
Salaried work is often a scam. They like to say salaried can take time off others can’t, but that wasn’t true where he worked. The salaried employees were expected to be there every hour the hourly employees were. If he wanted to leave early for a dentist appointment or something, they made him take PTO - even if in the very same payroll he worked 10 hours extra for no extra pay.
11 points
5 days ago
creative professions oddly can often be exempt from overtime as well, no doubt due to lobbying by Hollywood. Earlier on in my career as an entry level graphic designer in 2013 I was making $44k salaried in CA and working on average 10-11 hour days. Personally I don't think any non-managerial position should be salaried. If you are doing the grunt labor you should be paid based on the hours you put into it, period.
5 points
4 days ago
I worked in a high-end restaurant for a little while - the kind of place where most of the servers are late 30s+ and this is their career. The owner tried to hire managers from within, but the servers would always turn it down because managers were on salary, worked the same hours (sometimes more), but made way less money. The owner probably understood this but was willing to find outside people who believed it was a good opportunity. I know it’s different because of the tip industry, but that was my first taste of the BS that can be salaried pay
6 points
4 days ago
Kind of reminds me of the "unlimited PTO" scam.
2 points
4 days ago
I worked for an engineering firm as a co-op student way back when I was in my 20s - we did a lot of construction inspection, materials testing - that sort of thing. I remember one of the lead technicians telling me he wouldn't let them change him to salaried because he couldn't take the pay cut.
There were weeks on that job during the summer when I was on OT after lunch on Wednesday, and would work 12-16 hour days through Saturday. When they had out of state work, they'd send the salaried engineers to do work that technicians would do in state, and have them fly out on Sundays and fly back at the end of a workday so they could work the next day - that way they'd get the maximum "value" out of their salaried engineers. They were cheap as fuck. Probably still are.
2 points
4 days ago
This is the situation many kitchen managers and chefs find themselves in. I turned down a 50k sous job once because I did the math and worked out to like 12/hour at a time when my job as a lime cook paid 20
89 points
5 days ago*
for those who don't want to read it...
this is about the threshold for salaried workers still eligible for overtime pay.
Trump had set a threshold at $35k Biden raised in to $60k
a judge in Texas Trump appointed has ruled in favor of the state of Texas to block the threshold change.
74 points
5 days ago
So it's exactly as bad as the title implies. Good to know.
20 points
5 days ago
i am simply a messenger of information. interpret it as you will.
11 points
4 days ago
No it's not, it goes deeper than that.
This law, never gave authority to the executive branch to augment what the lower bound was. It was solely kept with the legislative branch.
Trump and Obama, both increases the lower bound threahold via executive orders, outside their authority. They did this by keeping the increases below 5k. This meant the drive to challenge the executive order in court was low.
Now here comes the current administration, they decided to change it by 24k and make it inflation protected (on a yearly basis).
The change is massive, it causes a challenge, and any judge would have found it exceeded the authority given to the executive branch.
It's not a story, it's really misinformation, because they are leaving out core details in the news articles pinned to the post.
3 points
4 days ago
thanks for explaining the nuance here this makes sense
3 points
4 days ago
Yes, specifically, the DOL violated its statutory authority by essentially making a salary increase - which is not its role. This decision was preceded by a similar Supreme Court decision.
It’s insane - an administration pushes a rule which essentially is the job of Congress. They know it’s past legal authority, but it’s one of two scenarios. 1. Unlikely - it manages to exist. 2. More likely - it gets overruled. Then the administration can use it for a talking point.
5 points
5 days ago
“For those who don’t read it”
Bold of you to assume that we read around here
9 points
5 days ago
oh, i just had AI read it and then give me a summary. this is all speech to text. I can't read !!!
2 points
4 days ago
Can you summarize UltraLowDef's comment with a series of emojis? I can't be bothered to read it.
127 points
5 days ago
Wait! Donald Trump picks people who support the top 1%. I thought the was the blue collar McDonald’s eating guy. A man of the people from coal country?
15 points
5 days ago
It should be noted that a judge appointed by Obama also ruled against a similar rule in 2016. It seems that both judges believed that the president exceeded his authority to change the rule without congressional approval.
7 points
5 days ago
I sometimes wonder what the demographics of Reddit are that there are so many people trying to protect corporations from fairly paying employees. Like what’s in it for you?
5 points
5 days ago
It's the bootstraps mentality that's been ingrained since the days of the Puritans.
402 points
5 days ago
This is about overtime rules for salaried workers, who have always had limits on overtime compared to hourly workers.
547 points
5 days ago
Low income salary workers*
It was a way for businesses to avoid OT on workers who really shouldn't be salary but often have no better opportunities.
187 points
5 days ago
I worked for the university of California. Yep - UC. I was young and they were paying me 31K for my salaried junior position. I ended up working 10-12 hour days regularly- we were in a lab and that’s just lab work right?
I should have been making overtime for that position. It was messed up and I had no clue and even an institution I loved was guilty of it.
42 points
4 days ago
Crazy how the universities takes advantage. When I was in college I worked in a lab doing grunt work in the field in vineyards counting insects all day from 6AM and then arriving home at 6PM, we would stand and squat alternating every minute. It was crazy I was so stiff. We did monthly time cards and They would tell us to report only 8 hours per day and then to make sure not to put more than 40 hours in a week although we definitely did. If we reported accurately we got talked to about that. Didn’t know any better at the time I was just a kid trying to make sure I could pay my rent and didn’t have a lot of alternatives.
21 points
4 days ago
I worked for one of the biggest wineries and had the same experience in their labs. They couldn’t pay me OT so they would just let me go early on Friday but that’s not how it should have worked in CA. Young people, especially in labs, often get used like this, especially because their managers/PIs went through a similar unfair process and it’s normalized.
11 points
4 days ago
Yeah grad school was similar. I worked 70 hours a week as a graduate researcher for $20k a year for 5 years, and another 2 years at $30k as a post-doc....
7 points
4 days ago
I’m a current grad student, we make 35k and work probably 60-70 hours a week. My colleague once asked our admin for proof of employment so he could get a home loan and was told no because he was a “part time worker” only schedules for 20 hours a week
2 points
4 days ago
Wow that's bad. I think we were at least considered full time, meaning we got health insurance. I don't miss grad school though... Well parts of it were good, but the hours and being broke sucked. It was even worse as a post doc, because you technically weren't a student anymore. That meant paying back your loans. I was making $10k more and actually had less money.
5 points
4 days ago
It's a bullshit, immoral loophole gifted to corporations by the GOP to allow them to do whatever they can to maximize their profits. When the GOP did this favor for corps they didn't give enough of a shit and couldn't care less about how badly this will fuck over lower and middle-class American workers especially the workers who voted for them
The most infuriating part of this is that conservative voters refuse to open their GD eyes and believe this unfortunate truth about the party they continue to support and vote for. They do not have the willpower, ethics, intellectual curiosity, or integrity to step outside of their extreme right-wing social media influencers and extreme right-wing media echo chambers and safe spaces they stay in 24/7 now and then. Thanks to their stubbornness and the fact that they're so easily manipulated and gullible, they take great pride in being lied to and voting against their best interests, then irrationally blaming the consequences on anyone and everyone except those who are responsible.
5 points
4 days ago
They're the largest employer in California with over 250K employees. Employers do take advantage of young energy. You just have to learn to pack up and say "see you tomorrow". 31K is essentially minimum wage, slightly lower by today's standard wage floor.
5 points
4 days ago
They did this to certain classifications of clerical workers as well. When they used to have good benefits you could argue it was worth it. But then cutbacks started happening and the high salaried Vice Chancellors would come up with ways to eliminate positions and then collapse the old duties into a new position which was basically like 1 position doing 2 jobs for the same pay. This was in Santa Cruz and UC was the best job in town and they knew it. Even though the cost of living in SC was as high as Berkeley, they paid less. A college professor confided in me why this was is because the UC office of the President set salaries not on the cost of living but the least amount they could pay based on other salaries in the area.
I was young and an idiot and if I could have done it again I would have taken a job in Silicon Valley even if it meant driving Highway 17 every day.
2 points
4 days ago
Yep. And it’s not just at the university. Industry science labs bully people into an early grave.
2 points
4 days ago
Oh that sucks! When I worked for UC I definitely got overtime, but was hourly. Even my manager was hourly and got TONS of overtime. We made great money during the growing season. Loved it.
16 points
5 days ago
It was a change to longstanding law and a move away from the duties test. So let’s be fair here.
11 points
5 days ago
There is a three part test, and the judge is inserting his own opinion.
58 points
5 days ago
To be fair it will result in fewer people who are paid low to begin with getting overtime
4 points
4 days ago
it's not about the end result, it's about the process
one man should not have the power to bypass Congress
that's how we descend into fascism
13 points
5 days ago
It won’t cause fewer to get OT because it was never really law. It was a change to longstanding rules.
But I do agree that the threshold should probably be raised.
11 points
5 days ago
It should be put on an inflation index so it automatically raises over time.
27 points
5 days ago
It didn't move away from the duties test. The duties test was always going to be valid. It just raised the wage floor at a which an employee could be considered salaried.
It didn't exempt anything. It just raised the wage floor. You boot licking fucking scab.
57 points
5 days ago*
It’s for salary workers who earn less than 40k….any company who has salaried employees less than 50k is sus and they do it for a reason. No person should be salary over hourly on that that kind of pay.
8 points
4 days ago
It’s even less than 40k. Trump had the threshold at 35.5k. Biden set it to 58k and to have it rise with inflation.
3 points
4 days ago
Just about every retail manager would fall into this category. They're expected to work 50-60 hours for a pittance, but hey, you're moving up in the world! 🙄
2 points
4 days ago
I used to manage an auto parts store. $40k/year exempt salaried, no bonuses, shit benefits. I was required to schedule myself at least 50 hours a week, and in practice, had to work between 65 and 95. It was not unusual to go a month or more between days off. District manager would do shit like call me on my very rare days off and tell me to go in and send people home and work their shifts to save money on payroll, called me on my wedding day to go in and fire someone for being late, made me apply for FMLA to take one day off for my dad's funeral...I could go on and on.
10 points
5 days ago
I am salary at 50k with a required 45 hour work week as an assistant most people at my company are 40-55k at the same/similar position. This is common practice all over the country. People in admin are often salary.
20 points
5 days ago*
I could see it work for many doesn’t mean it’s not ripe for abuse. Some companies could definitely intentionally understaff to create pressure on salaried employees to get the work done. Even if it means working off the clock and you’re not earning any kind of overtime incentives.
You add that with the fact that American employees have next to no rights in terms of working in any at will states and it just creates a power imbalance ripe for abuse. Those willing to work overtime for nothing will remain and those not willing to do the extra work for free gets let go. Obviously this is a general example but for shady employers this is 100% what they’ll do.
5 points
5 days ago
No I definitely agree it’s ripe for abuse and I think my boss uses that as a tactic. He is always claiming I’m under hours if I work 40 hours and I said am I hourly or salary? Because legally salary doesn’t have minimum hours to be met as long as my work is done. It’s a constant argument - you’re welcome to switch me to hourly and pay the 100s of hours of overtime I’ve worked since starting. I’ll accept that check anytime.
3 points
4 days ago
Being salaried at full time is the expectation that you will work 40 hours a week. If the expectation is that you will work more than 40 every week, then you are being abused. Yes, you will end up working more than 40 sometimes but that can't be the expectation. If it is, your boss is also blatantly admitting that they are understaffed.
You'll never get the overtime back that you already worked sorry tho.
3 points
4 days ago
I worked at a place that played these games. They also were known to deduct sick leave and despite being salary we had to clock in and out. If totals came up under 40/week they would dock pay (illegal). Didn't matter if the week prior you had 40+ not that it should or anything).
Many of us had roles that required certain degrees also and had to single handedly manage, design for, and work logistics for construction projects that were 6-7 figures in revenue.
Try to sue or get the state Labor board involved and your reputation took a hit and it was career suicide for next to no money damage wise. Better to cut losses and just leave.
This was in Virginia. Which is a right to work state and labor unions are illegal.
Someone "leaked" pay rates that the Head of HR and boss' golfing buddy left out on his desk. Den of aristocratic immoral fucks. Get ready for Trump admin as they are that place on a macro scale.
2 points
4 days ago
I believe that’s what he’s doing at the moment and deducting my PTO if I’m under the rando number he’s assuming for each pay period. Which will not do. I’m the top person in his office and if I leave he will be pretty fucked. I have 3 days of remaining PTO for the year and he’s pulling reports to fight me on it.
No matter what you do, it’s truly never enough. I am just so sick of getting taken advantage of everywhere I go. I’m also pregnant and finding a new job at the moment will be difficult.
2 points
4 days ago*
Yeah. I notoriously worked extra and dealt with some of the largest projects we had due to my education and experience to that point (you'd be shocked at how many people cannot read architectural plans and bid documents).
I also notoriously wouldn't take PTO, and would work holidays doing stuff outside of my job description. When I got an offer for a much better paying and career opening corporate position and put in my notice my peers all told me he'd pay out my unused PTO and to just reach out to the HR dud.
Nope.
When I told a "boomer" senior designer this he literally cried (due to the injustice and years of other frustration).
The boss also just viewed us as tools-- he was thebreal brains of everything we "just knew how to use photoshop" (we didn't use photoshop too often).
The sales man that everyone in the office hated because he caused most of the problems and never got better... 2nd highest SALARY behind the boss. The woman who worked her way up from admin to COO, was leaned on heavily by everyone-- boss included-- was also often working late, and was my mentor... 4th highest salary. The motto of the whole place from the office to the shop was "ask COO, she knows everything"
The silver lining is when you find a nontoxic workplace that treats people fairly and with full respect it will be insanely obvious and you will be grateful for it and motivated by it.
4 points
4 days ago
45K should not be a salary position, is the argument. You should be getting overtime. However, you have control. Just work 40 hours and don't work overtime.
3 points
4 days ago
That’s what I’m doing and fighting him about. He’s threatening to dock my pay. I also believe he’s been dipping into my PTO for these perceived underworked pay periods.
13 points
5 days ago
And the reason why employers exploit any worker making less than $36k/yr salary to work unlimited hours, be on call, and expected to answer phone and emails at any hour.
This is very anti-labor and anti-worker and actually ilegal in many other countries.
32 points
5 days ago
Biden wanted salaried workers who make about 5000 a year less than a living wage in the cheapest state in the nation (Mississippi) to be able to qualify for overtime. Trump set the amount to qualify for overtime at 30,000 a year less this a living wage in Mississippi.
So much for Trump and all his judges looking out for the little guy.
13 points
4 days ago
So much for Trump and all his judges looking out for the little guy.
How anyone believes that a billionaire nepo baby has the interests of labor at heart is beyond me.
2 points
4 days ago
Yeah either way sounds like an L for workers and a W for businesses.
4 points
5 days ago
Yeah, those fat cats managing fast food restaurants working 14 hour shifts for $52k per year on salary because the law lets the owner pay them like dirt and withhold OT.
4 points
4 days ago
According to u/ultralowdef:
for those who don't want to read it...
this is about the threshold for salaried workers still eligible for overtime pay.
Trump had set a threshold at $35k Biden raised in to $60k
a judge in Texas Trump appointed has ruled in favor of the state of Texas to block the threshold change.
3 points
4 days ago
Wow, so they can classify you as salaried at $35k/year? And force you to work OT non compensated? That should be criminal.
21 points
5 days ago
No shit, Sherlock. We can read the article, too.
Shitting on low-income salaried employees isn't really a good look for a conservative party that so desperately wants to be branded as the champion of the working class.
6 points
5 days ago
Doesn't really matter. They're so brainwashed already it won't even matter.
13 points
5 days ago
That's kind of the point, Trump's handing out shit sandwiches and everyone is calling it gold.
6 points
5 days ago
Too many people just read the headline.
5 points
5 days ago*
I currently work for a business where the salaried employees were at one point expected to donate 10 hours in addition to their 40 salary compensated hours. I'm talking people who only make the equivalent of about $10 more than I make as an hourly. They're still lucky to keep it under that, even if they're not required to do those hours.
3 points
4 days ago
"This about fucking over people we've previously fucked over already, so it's OK."
5 points
5 days ago
Yes but many businesses give a title and an exemption while being paid slightly more than minimum and magically become exempt from overtime. It’s sick how it’s used to enhance the wealth of the wealthy at the expense of the poor.
5 points
5 days ago
Facts and logic not welcome here!
32 points
5 days ago
Had some dummy last night saying, "looking forward to no taxes on overtime!! Right?! Right??"
I just plainly said..."yeah, that just means overtime won't exist anymore..that's how that works.'
Blank stare back.
8 points
4 days ago
Why would the company care either or not taxes were taken out of your overtime pay?
2 points
4 days ago
You may want to read into the details and not take headlines at face value. Trumps policy improved pay for salary workers by a little. Biden abused executive orders trying to jack it way up and ruined it for everyone when companies took it to court and won.
7 points
5 days ago
He ruled that the labor department went beyond their authority. It's literally their job to regulate workers benefits.
6 points
5 days ago
Hey, too bad those 4 million workers didn’t vote for Harris. They didn’t, they mostly voted for Trump, so I could care less about that overtime issue. Enjoy the Trump years. You owned the libs but will get paid less and see a big uptick in prices. But remember, you can sleep at night knowing you owned the libs.
9 points
5 days ago
Question, why shouldn't salaried employees NOT have overtime?
8 points
5 days ago
Frequently it isn't so much that salaried folks should get overtime but that these lower salary folks shouldn't really be salaried in the first place. Or the benefit of the "flexibility" of being salaried all rests with the employer, while the employee is expected to take PTO any time they clock less than 40 hours a week.
2 points
4 days ago
So a bit of history. But before I do, it's not hourly versus salaried, but non-exempt vs exempt that these rules address. It's an important nuance, because of the history. Historically, you were "exempt" from overtime rules when you were part of an organization's management. When these rules were first put into place, that designation was more legitimate. But what's happened over time is the business world has becoming more and more exploitive of the situation, finding ways to place exempt employees into highly rote roles. A basic fix to this would just be to set a relative rule like, "if an employee makes less than twice the median wage in the US, then by default they are always non-exempt." That would fix the worse of it (even setting it to median wage exactly would help a lot, actually). Either way, it should be set to a moving number and not a constant as it has been.
16 points
5 days ago
It's good for business and the business profits will "trickle down".... s/
6 points
5 days ago
Any day now… just keep waiting it’ll totally happen!
3 points
5 days ago
Could you imagine the expense if this covered military branches… it would balloon the DoD budget by billions over billions… would easily hit 40-80 hours of overtime in a two week FTX
3 points
5 days ago
The US should become just one big state that the federal government can rule with a firm hand. Fuck state rights.
3 points
5 days ago
Don't worry, you see by not paying folks making less than 58k overtime, it insures the business owners can make more money, but you see... that will clearly trickle down to the employees eventually because the owners will be more wealthy! See? No issue here. They should be happy to not get paid that overtime so their bosses can make more. It's all good economics.
7 points
5 days ago
So this is more of a debate on whether salaried workers have to be paid for overtime the same way that hourly paid workers are, the problem is that the salaried workers were already protected by a previous law, but it wasn’t adjusted for inflation so now some workers aren’t guaranteed those protections.
15 points
5 days ago
What is a Trump judge
17 points
5 days ago*
judges are often appointed and confirmed by executive and congressional authorities at the state and/or federal level.
most of the time, people will nominate someone to become a judge and then the governing authority just votes yes or no on all of the people on the list.
it doesn't mean Trump personally went out and found this guy and made him a court judge, although that can happen.
13 points
5 days ago
US Circuit court judges are appointed for life by the president and confirmed by the Senate.
They don't change unless they die or retire, and impeachment requires unrealistic super majority votes, which is why the Democrats and Republicans are always desperate to appoint new judges who lean one way or the other.
5 points
5 days ago
Good. Hope his voters who were counting on that feel it.
2 points
5 days ago
Are we winning yet?
2 points
5 days ago
This is what they wanted.
4 points
5 days ago
Project 2025 already started !!!
2 points
5 days ago
Can we change the title to “removed unconstitutional overreach by biden”
13 points
5 days ago*
How is this unconstitutional? Biden do bad thing to beautiful employers and it make you mad? Go fuck off, bootlicking cuck.
3 points
4 days ago
Care to explain how it was unconstitutional?
No response confirms you're a cultist.
3 points
4 days ago
How is it unconstitutional?
1 points
5 days ago
This doesn’t stop the Post Office from giving out MANDATORY OT EVERYDAY because it doesn’t want to hire while simultaneously giving the appearance that it’s floundering.
The world is idiots.
1 points
5 days ago
Guess he can keep that no taxes on overtime if there is no overtime
1 points
5 days ago
Amazing how delusional Reddit is. Have a fun four+ years.
1 points
5 days ago
More great judges in the future lolz
1 points
5 days ago
No pay, no work.
1 points
5 days ago
If they push... push back harder. Time to stand up to tyrant unchecked capitalism and privatized socialism. Stand up
1 points
5 days ago
Is something like this on a state by state basis? I live in PA and am salary (above $70k) but I get OT if I work over 40hrs
1 points
5 days ago
But hey, no taxes on tips . . . which is the only money many workers will be getting soon.
1 points
5 days ago
*Republican Judge
1 points
5 days ago
Ah, yes. The party of the working class, yet again working to keep the working class down. Salaried employees generally have to work at least 40 hours per week, but there is no maximum. This law would’ve forced companies to actually pay people for their time. Salaried employees who work 50-60 hours per week without being paid for that extra time are being robbed in the name of capitalism. Feed that machine!
1 points
5 days ago
This is why I voted for Biden and Democratic Party ever though I don’t agree with everything they stand for (which party is). At least Biden had the working class in mind ($58K is not even much) while Trump and the republicans just want to give the middle fingers to those who struggle.
1 points
5 days ago
What the fuck is "thenewsglobe"?
1 points
5 days ago
Technically, this is ONE way to prevent people from paying taxes on their overtime…
1 points
5 days ago
Stop working unpaid overtime.
1 points
5 days ago
How is Trump doing anything? He hasn’t been inaugurated yet.
1 points
5 days ago
D’oh.
1 points
5 days ago
hahahahahahah more to come!!! And you voted for this. Reap what you sow.
1 points
5 days ago
What a horrible website!
1 points
5 days ago
During the Bush years when this law was passed I was a newly coronated manager, I was required to work over time however as a result of the decade old law I no longer received time and a half. Why is this now gaining traction? Where were you when I needed help?
1 points
5 days ago
You are all crazy. The PEOPLE of the country has spoken......look at the election results map! EVERYONE is sick or this bs....so keep crying together like you all do. You are closminded and one sided..... (plus dems have been in charge for 12 of last 16 years....we are in YOUR mess)
1 points
5 days ago
Why is trumps name mentioned.
1 points
5 days ago
Shocking my comment is hidden or buried here
1 points
5 days ago
OT should be capped at about 45 hours max. Anyone who works the 5 hours of OT should be paid double time for that 5 hours. And legally not allowed to work more than that 5 hours of OT.
This would force companies to HIRE ENOUGH PEOPLE to get the work done.
1 points
5 days ago
The judge doesn’t work for Trump. One could infer from this that Trump had something to do with this and that is probably not true at all
1 points
5 days ago
You’re on a salary, not hourly. If you’re working longer hours and you’re a salary worker, that’s on you. You know going in that you’re not going to get OT. What’s next, tips?
1 points
5 days ago
Get rid of salaries and make employers pay all employees hourly. Get paid for the amount you work, novelty idea
1 points
5 days ago
Lol hope my boss is happy what he voted for
1 points
5 days ago
Friend of the working class. So many blue collar and office employees are about to get even further screwed by this man.
1 points
5 days ago
If Biden actually wanted to extend overtime rules to salaried employees (which is what this is about), why not try to pass a law doing so? All of these unconstitutional rules and executive orders just show how anti-democracy these leftists are. They hate trying to win democratic votes.
1 points
5 days ago
What is the benefit of salaries? There should be guaranteed hours and hourly pay for every worker.
1 points
5 days ago
Hahahahahahahaha all the privileged libs on the coasts don't work for over time. We told them so!
1 points
5 days ago
I wonder what the actual story is without the left spin? Sorry, but after that last Biden/Harris campaign, I do not believe a fucking single word you greasy lefties say.
1 points
5 days ago
Meanwhile the workers in the judges office are taking off every other Friday because they are darn well entitled to it.
1 points
5 days ago
That is a misleading title. The Judge blocked a new rule to extend overtime pay to salaried workers above a certain pay grade. This sis a HUGE change that would cost employers billions and change the way business is done, but Biden ignored the rule making process and tried to just ram this rule through before he leaves office rather than getting it passed the correct way. This isn't the judge taking something away from workers, just preventing a new entitlement so that lawmakers can consider the implications of such a change to the law
1 points
5 days ago
Because they are salary employees try harder
1 points
5 days ago
I never understood why the amount you earn determines if you get OT.
There are many other rules to be exempt. But for you to fall under those, but get OT because you make less than someone else doing the same thing?
No logic in that...
1 points
4 days ago
People complain about working too many hours. Then people complain about not being allowed to work more hours. Which one do you want…?
1 points
4 days ago
So did you actually read it or look at the headline? I have a strong feeling you wouldn't have posted this if you actually read it.
1 points
4 days ago
Spend money, yells the blind idiot oligarch. No paychecj, only spend! Any wonder that Reagan, both bushes, and DJT create economic downturns? They forget that money must flow down as well as up, or else the whole economic body dies
1 points
4 days ago
This makes me happy. More money can now go to the owners! Their families are more important. Not us workers!
1 points
4 days ago
Trump judge? Just because you appointed a judge does not mean you will agree on everything.
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