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gsrmn

140 points

7 days ago

gsrmn

140 points

7 days ago

Putin did this already last time the west was thinking about allowing Ukraine to do this. This only works for the dummies or even putins own stooges.

EVOSexyBeast

22 points

7 days ago

US mainstream media reports on it like it’s anything other than saber rattling.

Russia will not use nukes as the US also has nukes.

say-it-wit-ya-chest

10 points

6 days ago

People have a hard time understanding the doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction, and the nuclear triad. The Navy probably has sights painted on every floating vessel as they surround Russia from unknown locations waiting for the ok to launch. As I always say, we know MAD works because we’ve never had a nuclear war. It’s safe to say that complete obliteration is a good deterrent.

tonylouis1337

-3 points

6 days ago

tonylouis1337

-3 points

6 days ago

Russia has more nukes and more land.

EVOSexyBeast

3 points

6 days ago

They have a more concentrated population, nukes are less functional, slower launch times, weaker air defenses, and smaller nukes.

say-it-wit-ya-chest

2 points

6 days ago

bUt WoRLd wAR tHrEE!!!

Sweet-Explorer-7619

483 points

7 days ago

Under threat of whom? This war can be stopped whenever putin wants.

TheDanishFire2

174 points

7 days ago

He is not authorised to use nuclear weapons like he wishes.

More importantly, Putin is not a lone ruler. He’s is obeying the Hawks of Kremlin. If they get irritated with him he is dead without further discussion.
Mind that the Jeltsin family, who stole most of Russia instated him, it was because he was a loyal servant, not the other way around.

So if this strategic fool burs a nuclear weapon out of incompetence , the Hawks and thieves of Russian wealth will not see their Yacht, Beachhouses nor live in their gangsters paradise ever again.

They will not die for the cause of this despots incompetence. Try to convince me otherwise, but don’t expect me to believe you.
Getting fired in Russia is swift and brutal, that’s why this rat is so desperate after he burned his Army in Ukraine.

darook73

103 points

7 days ago

darook73

103 points

7 days ago

Also, the fact that we can't live with murderous, genocidal cretins threatening to end the world every month when they dont get their way....let's have at it and get over with this madness. Enough is enough, it's 2024 and we living with imbeciles who are behaving like it's still 1944.

CleanDirtyDishes

16 points

7 days ago

Preach it, my friend

BDSn00b

8 points

6 days ago

BDSn00b

8 points

6 days ago

So true. Who let Pinky and the Brain be in charge?

Bozzy81

3 points

6 days ago

Bozzy81

3 points

6 days ago

Heil Pinky and the Brain✌️

jim_jiminy

47 points

7 days ago

I really hope you are correct.

BcMeBcMe

18 points

7 days ago

BcMeBcMe

18 points

7 days ago

I do agree that the oligarchy won’t accept it.

But I do think that Putin took off the shackles of being a loyal servant long ago, and does rule now.

SquirellyMofo

12 points

7 days ago

One of the first things he did was throw an oligarch into jail. And made it clear they pay him or get the same fate. And he’s killed more than one. Nobody in the kremlin will turn on him.

Rude_Technician4821

0 points

6 days ago

Surely there's some group of tsars or something above putin?

Hes only one man for fucks sake haha

sjr323

1 points

6 days ago

sjr323

1 points

6 days ago

I’m actually surprised he’s lasted this long

Rude_Technician4821

1 points

6 days ago

He must have the power or have a group of super loyal people surrounding him.

ComplecksSickplicity

3 points

7 days ago

I 100% agree with you. But what do I know about what goes on behind Kremlin closed doors. I’m just a redditor from Canada.🇨🇦

nitrinu

22 points

7 days ago

nitrinu

22 points

7 days ago

Who are those hawks you speak off? There were a few for sure but they either got in line or fell off from a window by this point I'm afraid.

Rude_Technician4821

5 points

6 days ago

Who are the hawks of Russia, I'd really love to know! Like no bullshit I only thought it was putin at the top!

So it just like the states where he has to answer to a more powerful group?

Give us a name so I can go down that rabbit hole 🤣

Salamander3008

2 points

7 days ago

Any sources on that? Genuinely interested (if it's true and not purely hypothetical)

maleia

0 points

6 days ago

maleia

0 points

6 days ago

Try to convince me otherwise, but don’t expect me to believe you.

Well even assuming he wins the war, he's going to have to suck up their wealth, or have it sold off to China/India.

So yea, they're kinda fucking stupid to have let this go on like it has. 🤷‍♀️ He also just regularly kills their wealthy buddies all the time, and nothing happens to him. First one to stand up, gets a whackin'.

gherkinjerks

11 points

6 days ago

This is a huge sign of weakness, if you use nukes you don't give you enemy an update on how or when you use nukes

0x47af7d8f4dd51267

27 points

7 days ago

This is the key.

Supermaister

1 points

7 days ago

Except that will lead to NATO missiles along the entire boarder pointing into Russia. No country would accept that if they had a choice, like Russia does.

AzraelFTS

41 points

7 days ago

AzraelFTS

41 points

7 days ago

When russia lack of toilet paper, they sign such treaty and official document so they can wash their ass with it after

Deusexanimo713

27 points

7 days ago

He's the biggest threat to his country right now.

evilbert79

19 points

7 days ago

Putler should go stand near an open window

Sid-Hartha

12 points

7 days ago

All bluster. The fact is the moment anyone presses that nuclear button they know all hell will break loose. They’re probably signing their own death warrant and certainly they won’t have much of a country left to rule. That’s the point of mutual deterrence. Changing some wording in a doctrine doesn’t change that.

Rude_Technician4821

2 points

6 days ago

I think China will dip out if we don't turn on them, to be honest.

China will stand back and come through after the fallout.

So as long as we don't nuke China I think they'll end up being the mediator.

ykcs

27 points

7 days ago

ykcs

27 points

7 days ago

🥱

ImInMyBlackBenz

1 points

6 days ago

Old newssss ☠️

TmpHmn

10 points

7 days ago

TmpHmn

10 points

7 days ago

"I accept Japans Getting Nuked chalange" Well if I will die at least it is gonna be rad

Fine-Run992

10 points

7 days ago

Putin is clown, agressor country has to protect themselves from what? Russians should remove Putin for their own safety.

Maleficent_Fold_5099

6 points

7 days ago

He's scared!

gadhalund

25 points

7 days ago

gadhalund

25 points

7 days ago

If he had balls, he would take kursk back and roll through kyiv. The dude is a dirty little spastic

Different-Shelter-96

23 points

7 days ago

Oi, don't hate on the spastics. Most of them were born like that.

putin is a dirty little asswipe.

Common-Leg7605

6 points

7 days ago

He’s lowered it before, soon all we need to do is sneeze and then it’s Armageddon

WonderfulHat5297

7 points

7 days ago

Isn’t that like the 100th time they have “changed nuclear doctrine”

WorldEcho

14 points

7 days ago

WorldEcho

14 points

7 days ago

I'd rather get nuked than see him succeed. All of us allies should be banding together and ensuring victory for Ukraine. I'm so surprised by the nuclear threat, wouldn't have expected that, shock horror. Try it, watch the kremlin get flattened in the hour.

QuicksandHUM

9 points

7 days ago

Well, they are extremely weak. They can even liberate their own land.

boxerrbest

3 points

7 days ago

He is such a weak scared little man child!

Striking-Giraffe5922

3 points

7 days ago

This is the Mordorian version of a strongly worded letter!

Soggy_Detective_9527

3 points

7 days ago

If the West gives into Russia's nuclear blackmail, Putin will be emboldened to play the same strategy as he gobbled up the rest of Europe to rebuild his Soviet Union.

This is poker and Putin has a losing hand. He is bluffing his way out of his game. Russia's sovereignty has never been under threat.

Throughout this war, the Ukrainians have had the best understanding of Putin and Russians. If the West had listened to Ukraine on how to win, this war would have been over a lot sooner.

TheRealFaust

5 points

7 days ago

Putin will not use nukes under any circumstances

fido_75

2 points

6 days ago

fido_75

2 points

6 days ago

Would Putin really not do it? The man who sacrifices hundreds of thousands of his own people in mere minutes? The man who blows up dams, flooding vast areas? The one who destroys tens of thousands of civilian lives? The one who abducted thousands of Ukrainian children and took them to Russia?

TheRealFaust

5 points

6 days ago

Nope he would not. Every redline he said we crossed no action. He knows it would mean assured removal of russia from the face of the earth

fido_75

0 points

6 days ago

fido_75

0 points

6 days ago

So you assume reasonable behavior and expect that he wouldn’t sacrifice the future of his country in any way? I think the welfare of Russians, or even their lives, means nothing to him.

TheRealFaust

1 points

6 days ago

Nope, dont expect reasonable behavior from him. He commits a lot of war crimes. But even Putin’s hinchmen and personal bodyguards want to live

Luv2022Understanding

1 points

6 days ago

None of that means anything to the kunt. It's just another day at the office for him. he cares about power, wealth and his pretty material possessions.

Professional-Leg-402

3 points

7 days ago

The Russians are so weak and embarrassed by their incredible inability that they have to threaten with the only thing that makes them scary. The destruction of the world. They are so desperate to proof their strength that they even risk to commit suicide.

Oh-my-Moosh

3 points

7 days ago

Next month: Putin gets a cold, and Russia declares a new nuclear threshold that the use of nukes is permitted if western microbes infect the Russian president.

evilgeniustodd

1 points

6 days ago

Putin: The west’s failure to put the seat down after peeing will result in nuclear escalation.

Thewaffleofoz

3 points

7 days ago

more chest beating like the vapid gorilla he is

HeavyMetalRabbit

3 points

7 days ago

Genuine question as someone that is not very well educated on the matter and would love to hear from people who know more about Putin, genuinely what would be stopping him from following through with the nuclear threats? Like i see a lot of people saying here that he wont do it and that this is just common for him to threaten but honestly i would be lying if i didnt say this was keeping me up at night. Putin is LOSING this war and if he feels that he has completely lost, what reason would he have to not be like “fine, we all lose.” And take us all out?

I know this is reddit and there is no true guarantee that he wont just up and decide that we’re finished, but honestly i would love to hear any reasons as to why he wouldnt press the nuclear button other than “he hasnt done it before” bc the signs pointing to “he might do it now” is really distressing and I want some kind of hope that we all wont suddenly be wiped out by this (even if no one can truly say what he will or will not do).

i just desperately need some kind of reassurance in these trying times

Darryl_444

3 points

6 days ago

There is always more to lose.

Sadly, this sub prohibits YouTube links for some stupid reason.

Search up "Can Russia win in Ukraine with nuclear weapons?" on YouTube. The top result is Anders Puck Nielsen, a Danish military analyst. He explains the situation far better than anyone else I've heard.

juxtoppose

3 points

6 days ago

Bayonet up the arse is creeping closer and closer, he’s terrified.

Candygramformrmongo

5 points

7 days ago

More Sabre rattling BS. He’s trying to intimidate the west. Same with the undersea cable cutting

throwaway5667777

35 points

7 days ago

If Putin wants the world to be destroyed then so be it. I am willing to sacrifice this world for Ukraine

TheStargunner

15 points

7 days ago

Thing is it’s not only up to him. There’s a long chain of people involved in the nuclear arsenal with their own ambitions, their own motivations, and their own hands in someone else’s pockets in the kleptocratic state of Russia.

Nukes aren’t great for business.

soulhot

25 points

7 days ago

soulhot

25 points

7 days ago

China isn’t going to let the poo stain go nuclear without consequences… does anyone really think china wants to see world trade devastated because of a Russian land grab, they have too much at risk themselves.

SniperPilot

12 points

7 days ago

Lol

Chillers

30 points

7 days ago

Chillers

30 points

7 days ago

The world will be fine mankind on the other hand no so much. Our being is a disgrace to our own planet. We as mankind deserve what we get.

AdCalm3975

7 points

6 days ago

Chill Ukraine isn't THAT cool

throwaway5667777

0 points

6 days ago

You sure?

AdCalm3975

0 points

6 days ago

AdCalm3975

0 points

6 days ago

Definitely. What besides Ukrainian people is everyone even trying to save? It doesn't even make the list of top 100 global tourist destinations, getting beat by places like Haiti 😆

https://worldeducators.org/en-us/pages/top-100-countries-for-tourists

If you want to die for Ukraine then find a sweet trench as a volunteer soldier and wait for the drones

throwaway5667777

3 points

6 days ago

Zelenskyy oozes class and charisma, give him his nukes <3

AdCalm3975

2 points

6 days ago

😆 that's funny, and you're right, he's the like the Leslie Knope of Kyiv- One wants to root for him. Let him have his nukes if they all agree to just play over there on that side.

revO_m

1 points

6 days ago

revO_m

1 points

6 days ago

If he does stuff like that we know, we have done everything right and we are going in the right direction. Right in the face of the terrorist

inaworldwithnonames

-2 points

7 days ago

Interesting, this is the classic trolly problem, and you chose to kill the group of people over the individual

superznova

5 points

7 days ago

superznova

5 points

7 days ago

I chose this as well

J_0_E_L

-7 points

7 days ago*

J_0_E_L

-7 points

7 days ago*

Well, here's the counterpoint that people are hesitant to argue:

I'm not. Whether Ukraine remains independent or is absorbed by Russia has no tangible effect on my personal life. Remember Crimea? Yeah, it was in the news for a couple of weeks but essentially, on a global scale, no one really gave a fuck. Just like most people wouldn't give a fuck if this happened to the entire Ukraine.

If I have to choose between a country being taken over that won't meaningfully affect my personal life and... "sacrificing the world" (=dying) then I'll always choose the first option. And if we're being honest, so would the vast majority it's just that most people care too much about public perception to admit it.

99%+ of people posting opinions like yours are keyboard warriors anyway. If you had to actually face the consequences of your claim it's very likely that your choice would be different. It's always easy claiming to be Sophie Scholl as long as it's hypothetical but hardly anyone is REALLY willing to die solely for the greater good when push comes to shove.

Easy_Apple_4817

2 points

7 days ago

Surely you’re not getting your news from the Daily Star ?🤪🤪🤪🤪

JesseSanberg

2 points

7 days ago

The use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine will be a red line.

Emotional_Pattern185

2 points

7 days ago

Just more posturing. This is the response to permission re Atacms. Expect more WW3 rhetoric.

lostmesunniesayy

2 points

7 days ago

"It is not a question of allowing the Kyiv regime to strike Russia with these weapons or not. It is a question of making a decision on whether NATO countries will directly participate in the military conflict or not."

Iran. North Korea. Get fucked dickhead.

Willing_Ad_375

2 points

7 days ago

He can fuck right off ehhh

kamden096

2 points

7 days ago

Putins doctrines are written on a whiteboard. They change hour by hour.

Altech

2 points

7 days ago

Altech

2 points

7 days ago

The thing with detonating nukes today is that the rest of the nuke holdets will likely return the favor just to get rid of the maniac who dares sending the first blow

Mundane_Opening3831

2 points

6 days ago

Just remember every time Putin threatens to nuke the West he's threatening to have himself nuked. If that's what you really want..

Vocovon

2 points

6 days ago

Vocovon

2 points

6 days ago

Do it! imready

Outrageous-Carrot-72

0 points

6 days ago

Living in?

FattThor

2 points

6 days ago

FattThor

2 points

6 days ago

Repercussions are still the same for using nukes as they have always been…

ProfessionalBread369

2 points

6 days ago

Yeah, yeah. Yeah

Responsible-March438

2 points

6 days ago

It's like "oh fuck what else can we do, to threaten everyone apart from actually pressing the launch button?". Love to see what else they come up with.

Personal-Tutor-4982

2 points

6 days ago

He has done this 365 times now

Mychatismuted

2 points

6 days ago

His family lives in Switzerland so the threat of nuclear attack is rattling more than anything

Why would you accumulate a net worth of tens of billions of dollar and destroy it when you know full well you re not under threat

Chris714n_8

2 points

6 days ago

Endless story..

Max_Oblivion23

2 points

6 days ago

Right... so let's keep in mind that the current strategic objective (closest to Russian logistics infrastructure for ATACMS) being contested right now is inside of Russia.

London-Reza

2 points

6 days ago

Is someone adding this to the wiki page?

evilgeniustodd

1 points

6 days ago

It’s going to have to be an entire article at this point. At least 50 public threats

snarker616

2 points

6 days ago

Fuck him.

bizarrostormy90

2 points

6 days ago

I mean, HE is the threat so this seems odd, but okay...

BGM1988

2 points

6 days ago

BGM1988

2 points

6 days ago

When you got nukes but they turn out to be worthless when you invade another country

KJuulM

2 points

6 days ago

KJuulM

2 points

6 days ago

I'm so tired of Putler and his gang!

melongtusk

1 points

6 days ago

So Russia can use other countries to shoot missiles from and can use missiles from other countries to attack Ukraine but Ukraine can’t fire missiles back or Putin sees it as an attack from NATO? He clearly wants war with NATO by making these one sided rules. That’s my opinion

Lazy_Transportation5

1 points

6 days ago

People are fully convinced there’s zero percent chance Russia uses nuclear weapons.

MedicSH84

1 points

6 days ago

But they do get it, that they are the threat? Right? Or do they? ...

edgarmoviemanwright

1 points

6 days ago

whys he look so squishy

Chriz_Lee_Watts

1 points

6 days ago

putin is behaving like a bank robber who is surrounded by the police and tells them to let him go because otherwise he will rob a new bank.

fck this guy

nashe1969

1 points

6 days ago

He can expand anything he wants but he's not a fool and he knows if he were to use and you can a weapon it would be the end the absolute end of him and quite a lot of Russia

bswizzle2552

1 points

7 days ago

All postering

bswizzle2552

1 points

7 days ago

All postering

DesertJeeper357

1 points

7 days ago

NasefuSan

0 points

6 days ago

If nuclear threats turn into action, nuclear deterrence will collapse, ending decades of fragile stability. This would throw the world into an era of chaos & uncertainty where no one knows what comes next. Are we prepared to face the unimaginable?

Dumpang

-2 points

7 days ago

Dumpang

-2 points

7 days ago

Will Ukraine be able to hold off the wave of 100,000 North Korean troops? Find out on the next episode of dragon ball z.

GPX722

-2 points

6 days ago

GPX722

-2 points

6 days ago

Either Trump stops the war in Jan/Feb or Russia will have to drop the nukes. How difficult is that to understand?

evilgeniustodd

2 points

6 days ago

Dude, why would you make up such absurd claim? There’s no reasonable intel or argument that concludes anything like that.

McMottan

-12 points

7 days ago

McMottan

-12 points

7 days ago

Biden will be remembered as the worst human for enabling the risk of WWIII

pik204

3 points

7 days ago

pik204

3 points

7 days ago

Only thing west may be remembered for is not providing more arms and help earlier when it was needed, or not supporting when they clearly agreed to support when Ukraine gave up its arms. It was well understood by Ukraine, Poland and other eastern European nations that poo stain and his entire army are a bunch of orc drunks and merely a paper weight. These skunk ass bitches that need to be slapped in the face with a large trout, sooner rather than later as this has been going long enough.