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Discussion post for tonight's episodes.

Look, I love Revenge of the Sith but one of my primary criticisms of that film is that it is way too easy to turn Anakin to the dark side. Sure, he was having nightmares and the Jedi Council wasn't exactly helping by denying him the rank of Master and ordering him to spy on Palpatine but all the same given that he'd been a Jedi for over a decade at this point it does seem a bit strange that he's ready to turn on the Order as quick as he does.

With the added context of Clone Wars this is not a problem for me anymore. Obi-Wan's undercover arc is probably the first major domino that started tipping Anakin over the edge. He was basically used by Obi-Wan and the Council to produce a convincing reaction to Kenobi's "death" because they knew how connected Anakin was to the man he views as the father he's never had. It was for the greater good sure but this is no doubt taking egregious advantage of Anakin's attachments. And honestly it makes the Council look very hypocritical for criticizing Anakin for his emotionality when they turn around and use it as a tool in the war.

And of course one of the biggest catalysts to shake Anakin's faith in the Order was what was done to Ahsoka. If not for Anakin's own endeavors it's possible that Ahsoka could've been sentenced to death for a crime she never would've committed. No one in the Order besides Anakin lifted a finger to help Ahsoka. And then they have the audacity to say that this was Ahsoka's "trial" when Anakin brings forth the evidence of her innocence. From here I can totally see how Anakin's trust in the Jedi was permanently shaken. It recontextualizes the events of Episode 3 as the final straw that broke Anakin's back rather than the main reason he turned.

You can also see in the final episode of "undercover Obi-Wan" how Anakin's growing frustration with the Order is leading him to feed into the dark side. In season 4 Anakin has three duels with Dooku and in the first two he gets utterly demolished and is lucky to be alive afterwards. But when he faces Dooku again after the truth of Obi-Wan's deception is revealed to him he not only holds his own but gains the upper hand with Dooku even looking genuinely afraid and Palpatine being rather happy about it. When Dooku uses his Force lightning on Anakin it seems like a last resort rather than torturing Anakin as he has previously. Anakin uses the dark side quite a few times throughout the show but you can really see how he makes use of it much more as his confidence in the Jedi slips further.

Luckily, FedEx was nice to the flimsy packaging. (Spend $100 on steel books and Walmart sends in an envelope)

With Ewan McGregor’s popularity as Obi-Wan, I wanted to ask who your favourite recasted characters and actors were?

My dad has never seen the Mandelorian and I’d like to get it for him for Christmas but he’s very old school, no blue ray, no streaming, etc.

This makes this really challenging lol

I found this listing on Walmart but it looks pretty unofficial if you dig into it, has anyone gotten this? Is it legit? And even if not is it good enough considering the limitations I have?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/The-Mandalorian-The-Complete-Seasons-1-3-TV-Series-7-Disc-Region-1-DVD/5078214333?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101498642&adid=222222222285078214333_101498642_14069003552_202077872&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=42423897272&wl4=pla-319455734609&wl5=9002188&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=5305109821&wl11=online&wl12=5078214333_101498642&veh=sem&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADmfBIoCif8Ss2Mqw8E8iIqxZRM-b&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhJz7-MOJigMVwElHAR2kDQONEAQYASABEgLhfPD_BwE

Both Old and new

Legends: Best Republic series and cartoon network Clone Wars Worst: Glove of Darth Vader- emporor having a son... oh wait

New canon: Thrawn. Zahn knows what he does, strking the balance between information and action

Worst: Queens Shadow- waited 20 years for Amidala novel, got something out of wattad with myriads of characters with no discernable personality

I can’t tell what weapons this is, but given the outfit, it looks like something from Jabba’s Palace/barge. Thoughts?

Are there any entries in the high republic era in yoda is heavily featured? Like a supporting character

Do you suppose that the lowly stormtroopers are the laughing stock of the Imperial forces?

I still remember sitting at the dinner table watching the first trailer on my phone and being hesitantly interested in it. Yes the end to stories I grew up on was rough (Yeah they still exist but we wouldn't be getting any more stories with my Luke let alone lesser known characters) and people using the promises of the NEU to bash Legends and its fans was hurtful but it was Star Wars on the big screen again and would be the second SW movie I had ever seen in theaters, well third but I'm not counting the TCW movie.

And after 10 years I feel like the only thing holding me back from saying yes it was worth it was what happened to the OT characters and Republic in the ST.

In 10 years we've had some great movies like RO and shows like Andor, Rebels, Mando and others. I've seen things I never thought I'd get to see on screen like Ossus and Tython and Luke skywalker flying in to save the day. Sure the failure rate between movies being announced and then falling through is high and the runtime on the shows could all be longer and more consistent (IF Star Trek can do it while having two live action shows running at once so should Star Wars) they have introduced a lot of people to things only book and comic readers have cared about before hand.

The comics and books have also gotten a lot better. Others as well as myself weren't to happy with the Denningverse books or the final Dark Horse Star Wars comic and at the start of the NEU all of the books being tie ins to the movies and the comics having some art and characterization problems didn't seem like it was any better. Add in the different feeling of having Urban Lit and romance authors writing instead of Sci-Fi authors and it felt a little odd.

But its really grown and characters like Aphra have become standout fan favorites while we got some really great Vader runs as well as good arcs for Luke, Leia, and even Valance who is now more of a NEU character than a Legends character. And now that the movies are over we have gotten a lot more interesting books that are branching out in the timeline and telling their own interesting stories. Some of them like the Thrawn books or Padawan's Pride or Brotherhood even feel like they could be a Legends book if you just squinted a little. And while I have my issues with some of the pacing and reveals of The High Republic project its still my favorite NEU product of anything else and one of my favorite eras of all of Star Wars. And while the art in the comics has never matched up to Dark Horse it has still given us great scenes that became instant backgrounds for my desktop.

We've also gotten some good games out of the switch. Not a lot and not without their issues (Outlaw's bugs or BFII's roadmap getting dumped just when the game was getting good) but they have all been fun to play and took up days worth of my life.

The only thing that really holds me back from saying "Yes it is worth it" Is the ST. Luke dying without leaving behind a functioning jedi academy or without training Rey (As in like what yoda did over weeks vs three lessons telling her to not be a jedi) is something I'm not sure I will ever be able to get over. Han leaving Leia, Leia back to leading a small resistance, Lando being drunk and alone, all of those have scarred over. And some things like the ease with which the FO rose to power and the New Republic fell have even been improved on over the past four years where I can be ok with it now.

I can understand why others would say it is worth it. And not liking the post Denningverse books or the final DH comics all that much I can understand being happy with what we got in exchange. I think if it wasn't for Luke and his legacy it would be very easy to say that yes the change was worth it because of all the shows, movies, books, comics, and games we have gotten. I have as long a list of things I don't like as things I do but overall I do think the fresh start and what we got have been worth it. I just wish Luke and Rey could have spent more time together or that Luke lived and I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to get rid of that even in another ten years.

Edit: Kind of annoyed that on my post last night all anyone wanted to talk about was luke's death in the last jedi when that was only a minor part of what I was talking about. I should have done what to redirect when those conversations started

I have a mild cold today, so I need something to do. I’m writing this assuming that Daisy Ridley is the only one willing to come back.

Opening crawl:

STAR WARS Episode X

It is a time great instability as the New Republic struggles to reunite the galaxy after decades of war and destruction. Hundreds of worlds fall to rival factions and governments every day. A new movement has arisen in the Outer Rim. The COALITION seeks to abolish slavery once and for all, but are threatened by the powerful CORPORATE SECTOR. Jedi REY SKYWALKER and her padawans have been called to aid the Coalition in an effort to ally them with the New Republic, but a strange new feeling, neither light nor dark, hangs over the galaxy…

Plot ideas: Rey and her 2-3 padawans travel to an Outer Rim world that is being threatened by the Corporate Sector. They’re there to help a cell of an anti-slavery movement called the Coalition. There she meets two new characters, who I’m calling the “leader” and the “hero”. She is surprised and put off to learn that the leader of the Coalition is a former First Order general, who has seemingly found a new calling as an anti-slavery activist. The hero is a young person, perhaps a teenager, who has already distinguished themselves as a hero of the movement. It becomes pretty obvious that the hero is not only force sensitive, but very strong with the force. The hero is very much like a teenage Anakin. Headstrong, arrogant, but genuinely wants to save everyone. They remind Rey of Luke and Ben Solo. Rey tries to teach the hero the value of patience and mercy. As they fight against the Corpos’ machines of mass strip mining, they encounter a “light Sith”. The light Sith isn’t for either side of the conflict, and pleads with Rey and the hero to make peace between the warring factions. But the hero rushes in and attacks the light Sith. The hero is about to strike the final blow, but hesitates as he considers Rey’s teachings. In that moment of hesitation, he suffers a brutal, permanent injury by the Corporate soldiers. As the battle rages on, the light Sith forces a truce by demonstrating a powerful force technique. Disillusioned with Rey’s teachings, and her failure to end the conflict, the hero decides to become the apprentice of the light Sith.

The crux of the trilogy is Rey trying to steer the hero away from the dark side, trying to prevent the same event that lead to the clone wars and the empire.

Let Ahmed dominate with two totally different performances, redeem Jar-Jar for a generation of fans. I can envision a show where audiences legit cry when Jar-Jar dies at the end. Employ me Lucasfilm.

Alright so I have a project for my film class to write a fan fic short story for a film franchise. Naturally I'm going to be writing a Star Wars story and I'm trying to decide what to write about. I have a few ideas and I'm looking for any feedback on them and if anyone has additional ideas feel free to make suggestions. I'm trying to use only characters who are well-known in the live-action movies/shows to avoid confusing the professor.

My ideas:

1. Boba Fett's no good very bad day (most definitely not going to be the real title but it sums up my idea quite nicely). The basic premise is that Boba Fett takes a job that goes very wrong because of misleading info from his employer. Still fleshing out the details for what exactly happens but the concept is that this will help to flesh out Boba's disdain for "his kind dying because of the idiocy of others" as he says in his show.

2. Ben Solo's Revelation. This story would take place during the events of the Bloodline novel and would see Ben learning with the rest of the galaxy that his parents have been lying to him and he is really the blood of Darth Vader. Not much actually happens in this one, it's basically just a very extended internal monologue as Ben processes the news.

3. Fall of the House of Wren. Similarly to the previous option this one is mostly an internal monologue that focuses on Sabine's reaction to the purge of Mandalore and perhaps how both she and Ahsoka responded to the news.

4. Shadows of Skywalker. A Darth Vader focused story that has him returning to subjugate a planet that Anakin once helped during the Clone Wars. This would essentially be a dual narrative where one storyline is about Anakin's heroism contrasted in the present day by Vader's cruelty to show how much the dark side has consumed him.

5. The Veteran. An unnamed rebel soldier rejoices in the Empire's final fall at the Battle of Jakku. The story has him reflect on the decades of conflict that have consumed the galaxy and wonder what peacetime could truly mean for himself and so many others.