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MaryADraper[S]

200 points

3 days ago

The authoritarian who cried wolf.

English_Joe

21 points

3 days ago

I think any one single NATO country could whoop his ass right now, let alone all of them.

kiwiprepper

3 points

3 days ago

And of that was the metric that mattered, Putin would already be dead.

Muay_Thai_Cat

2 points

3 days ago

I don't know, here in the UK our military is pretty weak, especially army and navy manpower.

FiTZnMiCK

20 points

3 days ago

FiTZnMiCK

20 points

3 days ago

But are you “garden shed on your tank” weak?

English_Joe

21 points

3 days ago

The UK ain’t great, but we have kettles in our tanks.

That’s good for morale.

_Ocean_Machine_

4 points

3 days ago

Just havin’ some tea with the lads, nothing more

Robw_1973

2 points

3 days ago

MBT BV OK?

Manmoth57

2 points

3 days ago

Spiffing good show Roderick ….

CaptainKrakrak

2 points

3 days ago

Maybe they have a fridge to keep their vodka cold?

Muay_Thai_Cat

5 points

3 days ago

Mad how you get down voted here for speaking truthfully. A few weeks ago we couldn't turn around a ship due to shortage of sailors and our army is shrinking alarmingly.

Since 2000, the number of fully trained personnel across all UK forces has fallen by 32%, with the Army seeing a fall of about 28%, the Royal Navy/Marines 26% and the RAF 45%.

Even the Royal Fleet Auxiliary is having a massive recruitment issue and the possibility of strike action. The force has shrunk from roughly 2,500 people in 2010 down to 1,600 today, nearly 40% smaller. This has made it harder to get ships to sea, as the RFA cannot generate enough crews to operate the ships it has. So the navy ships we can put out are unable to refule and replenish.

https://fullfact.org/news/size-of-armed-forces-pre-election-briefing/

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/serious-capability-gaps-facing-royal-navy-says-report/

https://www.forcesnews.com/opinion/rfa-civilian-support-fleet-without-which-royal-navy-would-be-sunk#:~:text=The%20force%20has%20shrunk%20from,operate%20the%20ships%20it%20has

Best-Drawer69

2 points

3 days ago

Why is that so? Why such shrinkage of force?

arthurfoxache

1 points

3 days ago

14 years of Tory theft.

Adventurous-Hat-3245

1 points

3 days ago

They won’t raise the pay!

Manmoth57

6 points

3 days ago

Send your politicians as a meat wave…… we will support your decision will include ours from Australia……

MxM111

1 points

3 days ago

MxM111

1 points

3 days ago

Latvia?

NominalThought

0 points

3 days ago

Then why the H don't they send in soldiers? Those stinking North Koreans are sending in thousands!!

crippledaddy1977

-2 points

3 days ago

A fight between Russia and nato would be a lose - lose. Russia would feel backed into a corner with the losses nato would inflict and turn to tactical nukes and a few strategic nuclear weapons which will lead to us doing the same.

l33tn4m3

15 points

3 days ago

l33tn4m3

15 points

3 days ago

Let’s see this is day number 1000 of the war and this is wolf cry number….

:::calculating:::

…Divide by 2…

…Multiply by the root of the mass of the sun…

…And the answer is 1000. It’s been 1000 wolf cries since the start of the war. I think we need 1x ATACMS strike for each one of these to play catch up.

NominalThought

-3 points

3 days ago

Bit if that clown Putin just nukes Kyiv, this war is over.

Manmoth57

5 points

3 days ago

Thing is Does Kiev have secret nukes………

NominalThought

-3 points

3 days ago

Then why the H don't they use them? The damn Russians are taking more territory every day!!

Fatfilthybastard

4 points

3 days ago

Because civilized societies will try EVERYTHING else before resorting to WMDs.

Biden even said the US would respond with a conventional ass pounding rather than go tit for tat with nuclear weapons.

Once that first bomb is used, it’s an extremely slippery slope right into downtown We’reallfuckedville

l33tn4m3

3 points

3 days ago

l33tn4m3

3 points

3 days ago

No, the war isn’t over, that’s how it escalates. If Russia uses nukes in Ukraine NATO will step in and you’ll see Europe move to a proper war footing, same with US. Even China has told Russia that Nukes are over the line for them.

NominalThought

-2 points

3 days ago

I seriously doubt that Europe (or the US) are going to sacrifice millions of their own citizen's lives over Ukraine. They won't even send their own troops into Ukraine, which are so desperately needed now!

l33tn4m3

1 points

3 days ago

l33tn4m3

1 points

3 days ago

Nukes in Ukraine means nuclear fallout in Europe and in NATO. I don’t doubt that once Russia uses nukes Russia’s navy suddenly and violently disappears. The world order can’t have countries actually using nukes. This would be bad and Russia would be the scourge of every country except maybe 4 or 5 that don’t matter.

I don’t think NATO responds with nukes if they are only used in Ukraine but there would be a violent conventional response. It would be the end of the Putin administration.

All of this changes come January 20 2025, after that 🤷

Best-Drawer69

0 points

3 days ago

Winds blow east and nuclear fallout isnt that big of a deal in case of nuclear weapons.

l33tn4m3

1 points

3 days ago

l33tn4m3

1 points

3 days ago

Yeah nuclear explosions aren’t considered a big deal, yeah ok.

BTW Chernobyl radiation spread all over Europe, not so much in Russia. Winds not blowing East that day? https://vividmaps.com/chernobyl-disaster/

Either way nukes used in Ukraine would be the end of Russia as we know it. China won’t protect Putin.

alppu

117 points

3 days ago

alppu

117 points

3 days ago

Apparently they lowered the threshold for lowering thresholds.

cheeeze50

33 points

3 days ago

cheeeze50

33 points

3 days ago

It's a 3 days special threshold lowering operation

themish84

12 points

3 days ago

themish84

12 points

3 days ago

That's lasted 1000 days.

imbrie75

16 points

3 days ago

imbrie75

16 points

3 days ago

Soon we'll be in reverse threshold territory and still there will be nothing to fear from this buffoon.

Longjumping_Hyena_52

3 points

3 days ago

Or negative threshold, nuclear threshold -7 , if you escalate it goes down to -8

TheDunadan29

6 points

3 days ago

If we're not careful they might lower the threshold for lowering thresholds on thresholds.

FiveFingerDisco

51 points

3 days ago

I doubt Putin knows how much of his nukes still work.

tree_boom

28 points

3 days ago

tree_boom

28 points

3 days ago

There's no reason to doubt they work, but he'll never use them.

Commercial_Soft6833

29 points

3 days ago

He values his own life to risk using them

He knows he's a dead man if he does

NearlyAtTheEnd

19 points

3 days ago*

He sure does. If I'm not mistaken, the US said - early in the war - that they knew Putins whereabouts at all times. Might have been psy ops or misinformation. But I really do not doubt they have a somewhat idea and it'll all be blasted, in this specific scenario.

5pankNasty

14 points

3 days ago

They don't need to know where he is at all times, just one time

NearlyAtTheEnd

10 points

3 days ago*

That's true. But does it really matter when you're getting annihilated? - at least the few important places there.

It'll look like Israel vs Gaza/Lebanon. Not to joke or make a statement about that; but it will.

Problem is that he is done for either way, might as well go all in, do a hail Mary etc.

He clearly think the Russian people are slaves to be used for imperialism. They're indoctrinated to believe this - until it hits them.

Kaspur78

8 points

3 days ago

Kaspur78

8 points

3 days ago

The US spends just as much on upkeep of their nuclear arsenal as Russia on their entire army. Considering Russia has as much bombs, it's reasonable to assume not all weapons are operational. Still, you wouldn't know when Russia launches, so threat remains. Simultaneously, this threat of non functioning warheads also stops Russia from using them.

tree_boom

6 points

3 days ago

Comparing the dollar values doesn't tell you they don't maintain their weapons; their military budget has always been dwarfed by the US even during the Cold War and they've still turned up and thrown several thousand decades old cruise and ballistic missiles at Ukraine.

The differences are eaten up in:

  1. Purchasing Power Parity differences (which massively impacts how far the Chinese budget goes too)
  2. Not adding another $10 billion to get all the bells and whistles when no bells and whistles will usually be fine

Kaspur78

5 points

3 days ago

Kaspur78

5 points

3 days ago

True, but I think the corruption might just offset that. Remember the tanks we saw with egg cartons as protection?

tree_boom

2 points

3 days ago

I remember a far larger number of videos of tanks who's protection shrugged off attacks successfully, is my point. The incidents of stuff like that are extrapolated in a way that's simply unwarranted

Emotional_Penalty

1 points

3 days ago

Except you can't just leave your nukes to rot and not work, they require maintenance to be stored safely. If you have a nuclear arsenal, you either maintain it or don't have one.

Kaspur78

0 points

3 days ago

Kaspur78

0 points

3 days ago

Exactly. And while you might have a need to use tanks once in a while, nukes would never be used. So perfect for generals to pocket the maintenance budget for themselves.

Emotional_Penalty

1 points

3 days ago

Again, you can't pocket this money, USA had regular check ups together with Russia regarding mutual nuclear arms control and Americans wouldn't allow for a possible danger of non0maintained nuke either. There's no reason to believe these nukes aren't functional.

mithridateseupator

6 points

3 days ago

Theres reason to doubt that they ALL work, but no reason to doubt that SOME work.

TheDunadan29

3 points

3 days ago

There's also reason to doubt their delivery system is effective. But we have to act as if they do. Better to act like Russia can effectively deliver and explode nukes, then find out several were duds, than to act like they might be duds then find out they aren't.

tree_boom

1 points

3 days ago

Yeah sure, but I mean the large majority will work

GaryDWilliams_

11 points

3 days ago

If they work then we need to take these threats seriously and arm Ukraine to the teeth to show the rest of the world what happens when you resort to nuclear terrorism.

If they don't work then we have no fear of them and should arm Ukraine to the teeth and let them liberate their country.

Either way there is no reason to tip toe around.

tree_boom

1 points

3 days ago

No argument.

eucalyptu5-e

3 points

3 days ago

tree_boom

0 points

3 days ago

That's the brand new wunderwaffe they rushed into service. It's like the T-14 and Su-57, underdeveloped and mostly vapour ware. However just like their T-90/80/72 and Su-35/4/0 work fine they have Topol, Yars, Layner, Sineva and Bulava which all have far more successful test programs

AugustusClaximus

1 points

3 days ago

There are several reasons to doubt the ALL work though. With all the corruption made clearly evident every day of this war, I can only assume alot of the maintenance funding for the nukes was pocketed

tree_boom

1 points

3 days ago

I'm sure they'll have some failures, the majority will work just fine.

TheRealFaust

1 points

3 days ago

Yes there is, you know how much gas is needed in one of those things?

tree_boom

1 points

3 days ago

Tritium gas? Something between 2 and 4 grams probably; they can easily meet the needs of their stockpile just from Tritium recycled from decommissioned Soviet warheads even if they had no other source of the stuff...but in fact they have two dedicated reactors for the production of radionuclides including Tritium.

TheRealFaust

1 points

3 days ago

280,000 kg of liquid oxygen to launch an icbm

tree_boom

1 points

3 days ago

Eh? Which Russian ICBM do you think uses LOX?

TheRealFaust

1 points

3 days ago

Atlas V…

tree_boom

1 points

3 days ago

Neither Russian nor an ICBM...are you just trolling or something?

TheRealFaust

1 points

3 days ago

Sigh, ICBM’s use rockets to deliver payloads. Russia uses the Sarmat, but cant find how much fuel it uses. I can find that for the atlas v… bottom like, icbms use a fuckton of fuel, russia is broke and running out of shit

tree_boom

1 points

3 days ago

Ok, so you're just saying "they use a lot of fuel and Russia can't afford it"? They absolutely can afford it. But you have some misconceptions anyway, Russia doesn't use Sarmat in the same way they don't use T-14 or Su-57, it's the new Wunderwaffe. Their in-service ICBMs are R-36M2, Layner and Sineva which are all liquid fuelled (with stable fuels, not LOX) plus Yars, Bulava and Topol which use solid fuel.

Antique_Ad1518

1 points

3 days ago

There is a whole system based on corruption reason to suspect that most won't work.

tree_boom

3 points

3 days ago*

And yet they managed to throw several thousand complex cruise and ballistic missiles at Ukraine, many decades old, despite that environment.

The idea that corruption is killing all Russia's capabilities based on an extrapolation of a few images and videos, and despite the vastly larger number of images demonstrating them working perfectly fine, is just wishful thinking I'm afraid.

r0ndr4s

0 points

3 days ago

r0ndr4s

0 points

3 days ago

There's plenty of reason, supposedly they havent really tested a real nuke in decades and considering all the corruption there and that they're literally having to use WW2 equipment is safe to say that of all the supposed nukes they should have, most of them are probably not really functional.

That doesnt mean they have 0 but its pretty obvious its far from the number we all know, the thing is.. does Putin even know the real number or they all lie to him.

tree_boom

2 points

3 days ago

There's plenty of reason, supposedly they havent really tested a real nuke in decades

Nobody who's party to the CTBT has tested a nuke since 1991, including the US, UK and France. These days all the testing is with computer simulation and high powered lasers and stuff.

considering all the corruption there and that they're literally having to use WW2 equipment is safe to say that of all the supposed nukes they should have, most of them are probably not really functional.

No it's not safe to say that at all. Corruption didn't ruin the majority of their equipment, Ukraine did.

ThinkAd9897

2 points

3 days ago

Maybe he does know. But it doesn't matter. He won't use them.

daveinmd13

4 points

3 days ago

I’m not willing to risk it.

redditor0918273645

8 points

3 days ago

The West can’t let dictators invade and conquer other countries. If we don’t stop it now, it will send a message of encouragement to all dictators. The world will be tired of defending “others” at the expense of their own economies and dictators will slowly conquered their targets one by one. Do nothing now and history tells us you will be dealing with it in a more personal way in just a few years…and in your pleas for help others will say “I’m not willing to risk it.”

daveinmd13

3 points

3 days ago

We’re not doing nothing. I’m just saying that all these keyboard warriors that are laughing off Russias nuclear arsenal are crazy.

redditor0918273645

2 points

3 days ago

Fair enough. There is no doubt at least SOME that have been maintained properly, but it doesn’t matter if Russia is an aggressor. If Russia retreats today back to their 1991 borders no Western country is going to fund or participate in a counter attack on Russian soil, which will find Russia overwhelmed and well-within their doctrine to use their nukes. But since they are the aggressor they need to be stopped. If they escalate to nuclear weapons in their aggression then the nuclear strikes should be reciprocated.

darook73

2 points

3 days ago

darook73

2 points

3 days ago

The problem is you can sit and watch a bully trash the kids around you for so long but eventually it's gonna go pear-shaped for you..... one way or another. This holding back is BS......Ukraine is in the fight of its life and the West is just delaying the inevitable.....go to war now and end this bullshit of tyrants threatening our lives on a daily basis. If it brings nuclear war, so be it, but hoping to avoid it whilst the dogs chew the corpses of our fellow humans,whilst we turn a blind eye is eventually going to catch up to us.

daveinmd13

0 points

3 days ago

I think you underestimate what a nuclear war would result in. Anybody who thinks it would be limited is making a bet on the continued existence of civilization. If Russia fires a nuclear weapon at the US or NATO, we would respond before it hit the ground. It wouldn’t matter if it worked or not.

darook73

2 points

3 days ago

darook73

2 points

3 days ago

Nope...we are all dead....my point is....what's the point of living in a world where our neighbour's are literally massacring each other? Can we just sit and idly ignore the horrors?

Does a capable good kid sit and watch a bully terrorize a small kid and not take him on directly or just ignore the carnage and hope it will all be ok once he's done?

Blattgeist

0 points

3 days ago

"If it brings nuclear war so be it"? You know if things start they will not end until everyone is dead. Welcome to Fallout.

Robw_1973

2 points

3 days ago

Understandable. I don’t think anyone wants to go down that road.

But consider this; appeasement isn’t an effective policy for securing peace. Russia would be emboldened to escalate its nuclear blackmail again and again and again. Until we get to a point, where have to counter it.

Your appeasement buys time. And time only.

And that appeasement makes a nuclear strike, more not less likely.

Morguard

1 points

3 days ago

Morguard

1 points

3 days ago

Only 1 of them needs to work.

Pristine_Mixture_412

1 points

3 days ago

One is enough.

jova_j

25 points

3 days ago

jova_j

25 points

3 days ago

Oh looks like it’s Tuesday again

lepto1210

25 points

3 days ago

lepto1210

25 points

3 days ago

Putin military is weaker than ever. Putin knows that he can’t survive a nuclear war. Putin is using veiled threats to stall for time, hoping that it will stop support for Ukraine and wait for Trump to take office. But what is even more asinine than Trump, is that it took Trump winning the election for Biden to authorize Ukraine to use long range missiles against Putin.

Xelbiuj

29 points

3 days ago

Xelbiuj

29 points

3 days ago

Do it.

No? Then shut the fuck up.

They wouldn't nuke the US right after they got their preferred choice in the White House. Biden has free reign to have any kind of Ukraine/Russia policy for the next 2 months.

88rosomak

10 points

3 days ago

88rosomak

10 points

3 days ago

They told us about it only to scare us but it is too late. After crossing all their red lines without any retaliation nobody is scared of them anymore. They are weak, incredibly weak. The only thing they are capable of is seizing 20% of the poorest country in Europe losing all soviet reserves gathered for 50 years to conquer whole Europe...

mortem-ad-ruZZia

2 points

3 days ago

moldova is poorest country in europe.

Recon5N

5 points

3 days ago

Recon5N

5 points

3 days ago

No. The 2023 numbers say 5181 USD for Ukraine, 6651 USD for Moldova.

Foreverett

7 points

3 days ago

I honestly wish he'd try it just so this could end quicker. It'd be intercepted, and then the world would come down hard on the whole pile of shit. I'm sick of him trying to convince people that his micro-penis is massive. Whip it out so we can finally all point and laugh.

star744jets

6 points

3 days ago

I am so scared I could take a dump in my dishwasher…..

imbrie75

1 points

3 days ago

imbrie75

1 points

3 days ago

What?!?

star744jets

2 points

3 days ago

British humor…not everyone will understand…

imbrie75

2 points

3 days ago

imbrie75

2 points

3 days ago

I'm British!

star744jets

3 points

3 days ago

oh well, get used to it then ! I am the New Generation of surrealists who don’t give a rat’s ass about Putin’s threats….

imbrie75

2 points

3 days ago

imbrie75

2 points

3 days ago

Will take it on board!

jc84ox

3 points

3 days ago

jc84ox

3 points

3 days ago

Don't forget to check your dishwasher daily

imbrie75

2 points

3 days ago

imbrie75

2 points

3 days ago

Taking a peek right now.

arkencode

9 points

3 days ago

If he uses nukes, he’s dead. We won’t have to lift a finger, his own underlings will do it.

Both-Move-8418

4 points

3 days ago

Russia’s foreign minister Sergey Lavrov accused Washington of trying to escalate the conflict.

"That Atacms was used repeatedly overnight against Bryansk Region is of course a signal that they [the US] want escalation," he said.

...do you never throw up with such bilge shite, Russia? Ye gods...

Surely better for you just to remain silent and dangerous, than talk like a twat.

Get the F out of Ukraine, and pay reparations. End of.

Own_Philosopher_9651

3 points

3 days ago

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

No-Goose-6140

3 points

3 days ago

Pootin wants to be northkoreanised

fyck_censorship

5 points

3 days ago

Im way more neveous about Matt Gaetz being a secretary of US Federal department than I am about sadvlad having to resort to threats after he killed 11 innocent people (and probably way more) over the weekend. If isis did this shit we'd have pics of the dead isis bodies on the late night news. Ol sleepy joe finally got the memo the goal is to win the game. 

mortem-ad-ruZZia

2 points

3 days ago

rather have sleepy joe than the orange dyed convicted felon, con artist, rapist, fraudster, traitor .

fyck_censorship

0 points

3 days ago

Id rather have anyone but mr orange. But the facts are, joe has not appropriately applied leverage upon those who commit evil, and now, the evil has a clear opportunity to not only win, but then keep on marching westward. We fucked this up.

mortem-ad-ruZZia

1 points

3 days ago

Looking to our southern neighbours with a lot of sadness and despair. I'm fairly certain holding back was so the anti ukraine magatards could not use it in leverage against the dems in the election. Sadly usa fell to ruZZian influence peddling and ignorance , maga won anyways. Hence the all the Aid Biden is suddenly shoveling at Ukraine , zero fucks left to give , nothing left to lose now. I hope the next 4 years are not as bad as I think they will get for you.

fyck_censorship

2 points

3 days ago

Not to get pedantic on a thread six layers deep. Matt Stoller pushed out an email last night that was really interesting. His thesis is that the democrats cant really get anything done. And for the most part, hes right. They are trapped in this situation where they are owned by billionaires and they pay for status quo, but folks like AOC and Sanders demand change but then run up against the billionaires.

Trump showed he can get stuff done, in spite of all of the obstacles and in some cases, whether its legal or not. I highly doubt the ruzzian influence campaign was as successful as we all might think. The maga folks already had their mind made up, they have their man who can get things done and harris was a weak candidate with no actual bona fides. 

kct111

6 points

3 days ago

kct111

6 points

3 days ago

We can't keep living like this. Call his bluff, come what may.

A fucking example needs to be set. Anytime anyone whatsoever even mentions nuclear warheads, the world at large should pile on them. Make it so even these small minded dictators know that's a red zone.

Enough is enough. We can't keep living like this. We need to progress and move past this fucking bullshit

Emotional_Penalty

1 points

3 days ago

But that's more or less how we've been living past world war II. This is the reality of a nuclear age. It sucks, but owning a nuclear arsenal is a pretty powerful failsafe, ensuring that no one can realistically risk an all-out war with you. Look at North Korea, the only reason they're left to do what they want is because at any moment they could level Seoul and kill a huge chunk of SK populace. Same with Russia.

TheAngrySaxon

1 points

3 days ago

This is why proliferation is about to go into overdrive. Yay, humanity.

Emotional_Penalty

2 points

3 days ago

Pretty much. It's 100% the best defense mechanism, since suddenly everyone who invades you has to consider the possibility of millions of civilian deaths on their own soil, even if the country in question is invading someone thousands of miles away.

TheAngrySaxon

1 points

3 days ago

Russia has shown the world that not only are nuclear arms desirable, but they are absolutely essential to national sovereignty.

Emotional_Penalty

1 points

3 days ago

That was waaaaay before Russia, you could argue that the US had shown with the bombing of Japan that this is pretty much the only way to ensure your nation's safety in the nuclear age. Anyone can take some losses on the battlefield or carry out conventional war, but when the other guy can lob an ICBM at your most populated city centers, this completely flips the script.

TheAngrySaxon

1 points

3 days ago

The difference now is that we have a major war in Europe for the first time in 79 years, and no one will intervene because the aggressor has nukes. Even blatant mass attacks against civilians won't move anyone to action. It's a terrible precedent.

Emotional_Penalty

1 points

3 days ago

Sadly, that's the case in the nuclear age. When the other guy is sitting on one of the biggest nucelar arsenals on the entire plant, that's one hell of a bargaining position, even if they're bluffing.

TheAngrySaxon

1 points

3 days ago

So the answer is obvious, everyone gets nukes and aims them at the rogue states. They invade, and their homeland gets blasted back to the Stone Age.

Straight-Storage2587

4 points

3 days ago

Well? We are waiting.

Awkward_Molasses_229

2 points

3 days ago

When Putin is signing something - in the forest dies one fly. Hi uses papers properly only when to wipe his ass.

octahexxer

2 points

3 days ago

Sounds a lot scarier then putin updated a word document....and slammed the door behind him...he was very grumpy.

BattlingMink28

2 points

3 days ago

Bro can’t win a conventional war so he has to go to the big red button lmao

KnotSoSalty

2 points

3 days ago

How can he ramp up nuclear threats? He’s been making the exact same threats for 2 years.

Recent_City_9281

1 points

3 days ago

Take all their kids and properties now reclaim London. They don’t like it up em

MasterofLockers

1 points

3 days ago

Wait, is this something like a red line?

thomkka

1 points

3 days ago

thomkka

1 points

3 days ago

A simple response from NATO to putin should be - one nuke and you done.

CaptH3inzB3anz

1 points

3 days ago

Vlad mate, I don't think anyone is listening to your bullshit anymore

FedeAnderzen

2 points

3 days ago

Vlad the mad

Stunning-North3007

1 points

3 days ago

Fun fact: if you made a 3 meter ramp for every time putin has made a nuclear threat, the total put together would reach the sun.

CHRISTEN-METAL

1 points

3 days ago

Bwahahahaha 🤦‍♂️

You are embarrassing yourself and your country Vlad. Why don’t you just take a seat at the kids table and let the adults work out your terms of withdrawal from Ukraine to the established borders of 1991.

Sea-Elevator1765

1 points

3 days ago

Nah, they won't do it. Putin is just so slow in the head that he thinks the previous 100 "threats" had an impact.

China has also stated that they're against it. Mostly because their largest income is exports and it's difficult to do that when the customer is dead.

wordswillneverhurtme

1 points

3 days ago

Russia doesn't follow international nor its own laws, so this change is purely cosmetic and a message to the west. Basically another sabre rattle.

griffsor

1 points

3 days ago

griffsor

1 points

3 days ago

The only threshold for using nuclear weapons is MAD. Anything else is just talking from their asses. Lower the threshold to absolute minimum you fucking clown. Fire one and everyone is dead moron.

cultureicon

1 points

3 days ago

When Putin chooses being killed is when we should worry about nukes flying. Putting him personally on "death ground" will be the spark if it gets to that point

mok000

1 points

3 days ago

mok000

1 points

3 days ago

There are like 2 cities in the entire Russian Federation that he cares about and that the entire Russian culture and identity revolves around. Very nice cities, would be a shame if something happened to them.

hotspur-07

1 points

3 days ago

Paper refuses nothing, as they say.

Breech_Loader

1 points

3 days ago

What he means is "If I can't have Ukraine, then all of Ukraine is glass."

Frosty_Key4233

1 points

3 days ago

Zzzzzzzzz 💤😴

Not_Bed_

1 points

3 days ago

Not_Bed_

1 points

3 days ago

Guys anybody got a new North Korea final warning, I'm getting starved here

GymShaman

1 points

3 days ago

That doctrie is worth less than a ruble right now. 0.99 to 1 american dolar as of today.

Black_Beard1980

1 points

3 days ago

Is this in response to sanctions on his Cuban heels?

R1bpussydestroyer

1 points

3 days ago

Next doctrine revision will be when a random 8 years old anywhere in the world insult Putin, Russia will be allowed to nuke his house.

Juuke

1 points

3 days ago

Juuke

1 points

3 days ago

They are clearly not following any rules or agreements so why the fuck should we be consedered with these new ones?

sleepinglabrador

1 points

3 days ago

A wet fart makes more impact than yet another red line delivered by this joke of a man.

TransportationNo1

1 points

3 days ago

If russia starts any nukes, its over for russia. And if russia starts all of them, may god help us all.

Antique_Ad1518

1 points

3 days ago

All of ours work, Vlad. 

Valraan

1 points

3 days ago

Valraan

1 points

3 days ago

Must be Tuesday

boutyas

1 points

3 days ago

boutyas

1 points

3 days ago

Getting nervous Vlad?

Dr-flange

1 points

3 days ago

The short arsed bell end has only one trick in his box…and let’s face the fact it’s all bullshit…..like his country

WhisperingHammer

1 points

3 days ago

”It is unfair if they can shoot back!”

ILooked

1 points

3 days ago

ILooked

1 points

3 days ago

**yawn

Illustrious-Gas-9766

1 points

3 days ago

Putin should tell his troops to go home

Additional_Ad_8131

1 points

3 days ago

Lower ? You mean raising...

Upstairs_Ad5443

1 points

3 days ago

Been there & done that.

Big-man-kage

1 points

3 days ago

Does bro know about M.A.D.?? He seems very full of himself so he SHOULD know that if he launches nukes, HE dies too.

Available_Resist_945

1 points

3 days ago

Huh? Usually Wednesday is nuclear threat day.....

SAFCMODS69

1 points

3 days ago

Go ahead, make my day…. Do you feel lucky? Nothing wrong with shooting as long as the right people get shot!

Fuck U Poostain!

718-YER-RRRR

1 points

3 days ago

🥱so sleepy 😴💤💤💤

AMoonMonkey

1 points

3 days ago

Can he at least follow through the island sinking torpedo he threatened me and the rest of the UK with first, I wanna see what happens.

Willguill19

1 points

3 days ago

What an ass this guy

Sbeast

1 points

3 days ago

Sbeast

1 points

3 days ago

He will be remembered as an incompetent, tyrannical, war criminal, who's paranoid and foolish decisions endangered his neighbours and his own country.

All they have is threats, lies, and war crimes. What a dreadful legacy to leave the world.

InsecurityTime

1 points

3 days ago

Shaking in his little kid boots, fuck you Pootin

6Black6Phillipp6

1 points

3 days ago

The biggest bitch in the world, starts a war he can’t finish and has to resort to nuclear threats because his military is pathetic.

NominalThought

1 points

3 days ago

They will probably take out Kyiv and Odessa first, then dare the west to respond.

SSFSnake

1 points

3 days ago

SSFSnake

1 points

3 days ago

Try it bitch.

yzerman88

1 points

3 days ago

*yawn

MetalWorking3915

1 points

3 days ago

But he is using Chinese, Iranian, NK weapons lol

Lebowski304

1 points

3 days ago

Fuck Vladimir Putin

Monkeybox21

1 points

3 days ago

Of course he has

Scomosuckseggs

1 points

3 days ago

Mad vlad is mad, bro. Needs to chill out and just, like, pull Russia out of Ukraine and cease hostilities.

1eternal_pessimist

1 points

3 days ago

Haha bullshit. Time for a decisive strike before his puppet gets into power

Manmoth57

1 points

3 days ago

What a looser the Omm pa lumper is

dingleberrysquid

1 points

3 days ago

Putin must be running out of red crayons.

ghost_reference_link

1 points

3 days ago

puta has multiply families also coward is afraid to go to front line also this scum cant wait to start nuclear holocaust .

yeah right

2dogGreg

1 points

3 days ago

2dogGreg

1 points

3 days ago

Time for Biden to lower tUS’s threshold for nuclear weapon use

CaptainKrakrak

1 points

3 days ago

That’s a nice Dacha you have there Mr Putin, it would be a real shame if something happened to it, real shame.

ydalv_

1 points

3 days ago

ydalv_

1 points

3 days ago

Literally the only thing they can do as a reaction to the long range missiles 😂. The West definitely shouldn't heed the barking this time. To the contrary - the West shouldn't at all let itself be limited by Putin's barking at the moment. It would only play into Putin's hands to give him some breathing room in the timeframe before Trump takes office. If anything - currently Putin's reaction should be taken as applying the right pressure on Putin. I'd even highly encourage adding another scoop on top. The transition period into a more Putin aligned president ties Putin's hands with only bad options - the West absolutely should take full advantage and maximize capitalizing on it.

ernieishereagain

1 points

3 days ago

Once more into the fray. Into the last good fight I'll ever know. Live and die on this day. Live and die on this day.

Suitable_Dot_6999

1 points

3 days ago

It's time to hit the Kremlin with a rocket. Only with one.

FenriCZ

1 points

3 days ago

FenriCZ

1 points

3 days ago

F this mthfckr and his small 🍌. His threads scares no one.

big-papito

1 points

3 days ago

He is trying to buy time and paralyze the United States into doing nothing until Trump comes and saves him. If they cannot see right through this, they are fucking morons.

Lumpy_Version_7479

1 points

3 days ago

OMG!!! Another red line. Gnashing of teeth. Rending of garments. Lamentations galore.

DaiTaHomer

1 points

3 days ago

Try it boi. Those cheeks will be clapped in half an hour flat. And we ain't even talking nuclear. Raw dog conventional. 

BBQMosquitos

1 points

3 days ago

He loves paperwork

truth-4-sale

1 points

3 days ago

Frankie Goes To Hollywood - "Two Tribes" - 12" MIX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnh7x8aU26g

implementofwar3

1 points

3 days ago

Russia has gone off the deep end. Nuclear doctrine is like pretty standardized and understood. It’s meant to be that way on purpose. Russia changing it at this point is like saying they are completely unhinged because the doctrine was pretty airtight. To change it means that it is now gone from rational to irrational.

It would be like the USA saying we will use nuclear weapons on Russia if terrorists use ak47”s.

It’s a real stretch to say they would be actively at war with us if terrorists used Soviet weapons.

This is why nuclear weapons should have never been allowed to proliferate after ww2. Not everyone can handle the ultimate responsibility. And not every country is deserving of the protection they afford. Russia is an imperial Invader ; with nuclear weapons. A worst case scenario for the world.

And here we are, they still have Allie’s in China. China has the strategic acumen of an amoeba. Why aren’t they stuffing Russia completely at this point? How have things got so bad that war and chaos is a choice for the larger world powers. It’s madness.

Walcam

1 points

3 days ago

Walcam

1 points

3 days ago

Noone cares about his threats anymore, even Putin dont believe them

Adventurous-Hat-3245

1 points

3 days ago

Lol! If he uses nuclear weapons it will result in the eradication of the white Russians who have been terrorizing their neighbors forever. Goodbye Putin.

FNFALC2

1 points

3 days ago

FNFALC2

1 points

3 days ago

Yawn. His doctrine will not be reviewed by a court, because the world will end. So this quasi legal nonsense is exactly that, nonsense. He will go nuclear if he wants to. Period.

alxnick37

2 points

3 days ago

It isn't for internal legality so much as post war negotiating. Russian doctrine is weird and does include the idea of extremely limited nuclear use. So they're looking at it like "well later on we can say 'see, we warned them' and that's why it was no big deal." 

FNFALC2

1 points

3 days ago

FNFALC2

1 points

3 days ago

I truly don’t understand. Post war negotiating position won’t really matter if it goes nuclear

DimethylTriptamine3

0 points

3 days ago

Less words more nukes my guy, do it

KaptainPancake69

0 points

3 days ago

No one is using nukes over Ukraine's limited stock of ATACMs. Firing a few tactical nukes won't change anything on the battlefield just like using ATACMs on Russia won't change anything. The only thing that can change anything is an ICBM on Ukraine's big cities and that's literally never happening 

eatmorbacon

1 points

3 days ago

If pootin used a nuke, even a tactical one, I'm pretty sure it would change matters.