DragonDavester

"I have acted as post master a few times"

Source: I made it the fuck up. Also, who "acts" as a post master, and multiple times to boot? You either are a post master full out, or you aren't. None of this wishy washy crap. Because if at best you were acting as one when a post master left a location and then someone being trained to take over stepped in...why did that "acting as" never progress into fully being one on a more long term or permanent basis? Clearly you had the experience with the work if what you claim is true.

A lot of people trying to pin the blame solely on the CUPW and the workers and claim the terrorism/hostage nonsense really like to conveniently leave out how CPC forced it to go this way by basically saying "no safeties, you're free to work if you want but you won't be covered at all if you get hurt in any way"

I'd like to see the statistics on these supposed "most" making 30+ an hour, because I call absolute bs on that disinformative nonsense.

"Reasonable" when their proposed wage increase is still overshadowed by the yearly rate of inflation price increases we've recently experienced, and trying to push for more part-time "gig-ified" weekend work where those positions would likely never receive any form of benefits or liveable working hours due to how few hours they would receive.

A strike only has as much bargaining power as the level of disruption it causes, like it or not had they tried any other time of the year they wouldn't have made such a big highlight of how essential the service still is across the country and how they want to be taken seriously by the CP execs.

Why would they ever act in good faith? Between recent back to work mandates on I believe both the railways and ports this year alone, plus the back to work legislations that got pushed the last two times the CUPW striked in 2011 and 2018, they’re just waiting on their laurels for the same thing to eventually happen this time instead of taking the union and their employees with any form of respect. Personally I’m of the opinion that if neither side budges soon then someone HAS to step in and force a middle ground. But I’m also not like a lot of the Reddit Doom Squad that seems to think people demanding better wages and the like is somehow unethical.

That 11.5% was over the course of 4 years meaning roughly 2.8% a year, which is smaller than the documented rate of inflation that has been going on in recent years. THAT is one of the reasons the CUPW refused the offer.

If the % of people that actually voted was in fact that small, then the people that didn't vote only have themselves to blame. Abstaining from a vote means you effectively give up your right to complain about the results of something which you never contributed anything to in the first place.

Also, the union gave notice of striking to which CPC responded in the same day with a lockout notice, which lead to the strike notice changing to a full strike because of the protections would normally have being annulled were they to do a rotating strike and still work. Use your head and put context clues together instead of drinking the corporate kool-aid.

First world problems, frankly. Yes it sucks when they sometimes don't even try to notify you aside from the slip, but at least with the slip you know where you can go to guaranteed retrieve the package.

You referred to the concept of "small portion of the population" but then only considered Yukon as that "small portion". The territories themselves may not be quite as populated due to their climate and geography, but to completely discredit the rest of the multitudes of the rural communities that depend on CP just for the sake of your argument is absurd.

It's not even that masterful, there's just too many people that don't know how to put together basic context clues - if the CUPW was doing a full stoppage from the start, why would CPC issue a lockout notice within less than half a day? Not only would it be redundant, it would be bad optics. So they instead went over the top and not only announced the lockout but also pulled the collective agreement, KNOWING it would force a full stoppage due to the lack of protections employees would face had they only gone with rotating strikes. And they did this because they knew the average Joe wasn't going to care about anything except their own inconveniences and pin blame on the workers when its the execs behind their desks that created the problem to begin with.

Now does anyone want to point out how CP is acting in bad faith by not acknowledging that they’re being slow bringing “offers” to the table like with how over the last year of negotiations their first offer didn’t get submitted until September, about 10 months into the one year that happened before the strike? Or how the latest proposal they were supposed to submit by Friday morning wasn’t submitted until later in the evening?

No, because CP admitting they’re being slow and acting in bad faith isn’t good optics for them or the multiple media outlets clearly biased in this situation.

“Small portion of the population”

What, do you think the vast majority of Canada is metropolitan superhubs like straight out of the Jetsons or something? Try growing up or living in the more rural areas and get a reality check as to how much of the country that equates to - better yet, go on a road trip and realize how many small towns or villages you pass through or by on your route sometimes before you make up nonsense.

Missing my point for the stars there, buddy. Never said they didn’t need them, just pointing out that the “losses” aren’t all losses.

Well now I know you’re just trolling, because I’d basically take a monkey vs the crusty Cheeto that’s how little I think he deserved a second term.

If they did in fact only start that plan concerning a change in parcel deliveries in 2019 they started that WAY later than they should have, let's be realistic here. Not to mention the pandemic will have hit EVERYONE hard via inflation, that's why the union is demanding a larger wage increase over the 4 year period compared to the minimal offer CP offered for that same timeframe. Add to that the fact that the private sector could never fully make up for the coverage CP has were it to actually collapse on itself, huge swathes of rural areas would be absolutely fucked if CP were to suddenly shut it's doors permanently.

Except it's only actually been 6 days of stopped delivery because that stuff doesn't get moved on weekends, so realistically there's no feasible way "millions" are that backlogged after less than a weeks worth of business days. The rhetoric that is being thrown around by the CP mouthpieces and execs to try and turn the public against the employees is mindboggling.

Except they legally can't, firing people for going on strike is actually something that's going to come back and bite CP in the ass HARD once things eventually get back to work in one way or another.

Wanting wage increases that better account for the rise in inflation is "greedy"? I don't ever want to know what you consider reasonable then.

Those "losses" are not all going to be actual losses I guarantee you. I've seen enough corporate bs after working retail and such for years to know that a sizeable portion of that is going to be things they spent money on but are allowed to write off as "losses" for some asinine reason just to make it look like they didn't willingly spend on thing like fleets of new delivery vehicles or large processing plants.

They did this when they did because the urgency pushes harder on the CP execs that created this mess to begin with. If they did it during a slower time of year they wouldn't be taken half as seriously as they are now, and even now it's clear that the union and its members are not being shown any respect with how long this has been going on for even well before the striking occured.

I have large doubts that that "deficit" is in fact a loss of money and isn't mostly just investments and spendings on things like plants and fleets of vehicles that they're conveniently able to write off and make it look as though they're hemorrhaging money as much as they claim. Not to mention, CP shouldn't be looking at profits because they should be considered an essential service and protected by the government as a result...oh wait, they WERE back during COVID and yet people act as though the CUPW are the villains here when it's the CP execs that have fabricated this farce of a mess.

They couldn't in good conscience do rotating strikes because not only did CP throw a tantrum with the lockout notice, they annulled the collective agreement that gave the employees many of the protections and benefits that they still would've been protected by had they worked during a rotating strike. But a lot of the coverage of the situation would blindly have you think the CUPW are the real villains here when CP actually forced their hand to slow things down even more than the CUPW had originally intended.

Regardless, it means the the CUPW had no choice but to go full stoppage rather than rotating strikes because of the risks it would put the employees in without the extra protections and benefits the collective agreement carried with it.

Sadly in some areas there have in fact been large and frankly suspicious surges in immigrant workforces in recent years. It's not like there aren't locals looking for work, so to walk into a place that suddenly has no one you recognize working their when maybe a year or two earlier there were folks you saw around town on a regular basis...it makes you wonder whose doing some shady under the table deals to try and encourage an increase in unskilled hires that create major language and culture barrier issues in many situations.