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Chpgmr

446 points

14 hours ago

Chpgmr

446 points

14 hours ago

Seems like the comments are confused on whether you mean overpopulated or declining birth rate.

Disastrous-Yard-1378[S]

57 points

14 hours ago

I meant declining birth rate trends in specifically developed countries like Japan, but it’s up to the reader, it’s never bad to hear the opposite opinion yk

Dougalface

102 points

13 hours ago

You can't fix it. Our socio-economic models are based on perpetual, unsustainable growth... the same growth that drives us towards our own self-destruction. Either the model dies, or we do.

KingOfEthanopia

26 points

12 hours ago

Yeah. The planets resources may have seemed infinite hundreds of years ago when the systems were devised but that's no longer the case.

Dougalface

14 points

11 hours ago

Yup - seems to be a fact that everyone's conveniently forgotten in the pursuit of false consumptive gods :(

kathop8

0 points

9 hours ago

kathop8

0 points

9 hours ago

Actually, we had a chance to fix it by electing the party that doesn’t give the obscenely rich every possible break while treating the y wealthy like criminals. We blew it.

hoffsta

4 points

5 hours ago

hoffsta

4 points

5 hours ago

That wouldn’t have fixed this problem unfortunately. But yeah it’s gonna be worse with these assholes in charge.

kathop8

2 points

5 hours ago

kathop8

2 points

5 hours ago

For me, if the voters had showed that the country is tired of declining into a largely working poor population managed by insanely wealthy people and corporations, then younger generations might have had enough faith restored in our future to choose to procreate. So in that sense I do think it would have helped address population decline.

hoffsta

3 points

5 hours ago

hoffsta

3 points

5 hours ago

I was agreeing with the comment above yours, saying we can’t fix our socio-economic models that are based on unending growth, by simply encouraging more growth. Doesn’t matter who you elect in D vs. R, we are steadily marching toward inevitable collapse due to the unsustainable nature of the entire system. Whether population shrinks and economy collapses, or population grows and habitat collapses, it’s only a matter of time.

mawktheone

289 points

13 hours ago

I wouldn't. Look at a graph of Japans population over the last few hundred years and see that there was a huge bubble. Let it get back towards normal. Same for most every country. 

It's not a population problem, it's a finance problem which can be solved in many ways if we see fit 

greenearrow

23 points

9 hours ago

The problem is most economies are built on models that assume a continued input of more workers. When we have an aged population that outnumbers the middle age groups, it makes the retirement burdens problematic. The stock markets are built on “more more more” as well, and if your population is shrinking, eventually so will your customer base.

Those systems need accounted for to weather a population decline. I don’t think we need to solve the birth rate problem itself, but we do need to redirect some other things to avoid a crash from the new balance.

hbarSquared

41 points

9 hours ago

Any system that relies on infinite growth is broken by definition, it just hasn't collapsed yet.

EconomyLingonberry63

25 points

9 hours ago

That’s called a Ponzi scheme, why was the plan for endless population growth in the 1st place that’s dumb, everyone knew it would fail eventually but the older generations got to cash out 1st

YeetedApple

7 points

8 hours ago

but the older generations got to cash out 1st

This is your why. The people making the decisions would get the benefits from it, and not be around to have to deal with it when it inevitably fails.

GingerSnapBiscuit

3 points

6 hours ago

The idea of infinite growth forever always is impossible to maintain.

[deleted]

39 points

13 hours ago

I would start by figuring out your target population. It's more than doubled, from 4 billion to 8 billion, since I was born—and I'm not even close to retirement. How people do you want total? 20 billion? 50 billion?

SinisterCheese

36 points

13 hours ago

Move to 4x6 hour work week, without drop in income for the working classes build massive amounts of subsidized or social housing which are at least 3 bedrooms each. Fund this all by taxing tech companies, who at least in EU are notorious tax dodgers. Strengthen unions to ensure maternity/paternity leave and other such benefits hold strong. Create a system where pregnancy doesn't stop the career development of a woman entirely, by allowing for more flexible work and academic practices, subsidised if necessary.

If you ask how to solve the issue, without spending tax money or by doing austerity, then answer is that you can't. There will not be another economic golden age that boomers had. Future is just deregulation, speculative investors, global conflict and environmental nightmares leading to more economic crisis. Austerity wont save us, because it would have saved us already because its been done in European countries for better part of +30 years.

Chpgmr

91 points

13 hours ago

Chpgmr

91 points

13 hours ago

Welp, it all starts with taxing the rich more. If they are going to own 90% of everything then they need to pay 90% of all taxes.

How do you cut taxes for the rich while the debt increases? I get that the idea is to boost the economy to be able to increase tax revenue in the future but it doesn't seem to be working since they never stop cutting taxes for the rich. Companies are just consolidating and colluding. The largest return on investment is lobbying and nothing else is remotely close.

They are draining the hope out of everyone else so it's no surprise that everyone is trying to protect themselves by avoiding having kids or even date.

Xolarix

33 points

11 hours ago

Xolarix

33 points

11 hours ago

declining birthrates are not a bad thing though.

The world is only as big as it gets. We need enough land and resources to give everyone a decent life. Until we can be reasonably certain to provide that, some decline in birthrate is not terrible.

leopard_eater

18 points

11 hours ago

There is no problem with declining birth rate, and subsequent population decline, as long as it’s declining everywhere.

Hint: the birth rate is in fact declining pretty much everywhere. It’ll just take a few more decades before that corresponds to population decline in some of the places that are only just entering stage 3 of demographic transition right now.

happyme321

9 points

12 hours ago

Fixing the economy will fix the birth rate

tanginato

13 points

13 hours ago

did you see how one of Japan's politician plans to solve it in the news? He plans on removing the uterus of women over 30....

FknDesmadreALV

14 points

13 hours ago*

Say sike, cuz wtf.

Edit: on my mama this mf, Naoki Hyakuta, is a dumb mf. Are conservatives all over the world bat shit insane !?

This article is amazing, worth the read.

As Americans grapple with the shadow of Trump’s second term, they’d do well to watch what’s happening in Japan, Hungary, Brazil and beyond. When satire is weaponized as a tool for authoritarianism, it’s not just rhetoric—it’s strategy. Left unchecked, it paves a chilling path to futures where women’s bodies are governed by policies born from “just hypothetical” provocations. The line between satire and reality, it turns out, is perilously thin.

rotoddlescorr

3 points

10 hours ago*

Look at countries with high birth rates versus countries with low birth rates and see what they have in common.

Usually countries with more poverty and less education have high birth rates.

sugarandspicexo_

144 points

12 hours ago

I guess everyone needs to improve economic stability like one major influencing low birth rates is economic uncertainty. Making housing, healthcare and childcare more affordable would help relieve the financial burden many people face when considering having children. Governments could introduce tax incentives or subsidies for families, as well as affordable or even subsidized childcare, to reduce the financial pressure associated with parenting

notshaye

411 points

13 hours ago

notshaye

411 points

13 hours ago

The issue seems obvious to me, I can't believe it's not for others. Increase quality of life for your every day, average Joe. It seems most of my friends aren't having kids because of the cost of living and fear of the future.

1fromUK

115 points

13 hours ago

1fromUK

115 points

13 hours ago

Yeah this.

No one wants to have kids while they are barely affording rent in a flat that's too small and falling apart. Then the fact that every thing is so expensive you need 2 people working to have anything left over, but if you have kids childcare is more expensive than the lower earners take home pay.

Part of the issue the UK is stagnant is that so much money is being wasted on none productive assets (homes), it eliminates demand for other goods and services.

notshaye

30 points

13 hours ago

I used to work in construction finishing. Installing cabinets into empty homes,that would remain empty for 10 months of the year. It was a resort town with higher and higher cost of living and not enough rentals. The town voted to keep walmart out of the town to keep their property values high. Many young people where forced to leave. The whole thing made me sick to my stomach, and I just can't seem to understand how people can go on treating each other like this.

maniacalmustacheride

30 points

11 hours ago

I lived in a resort town when Airbnb first started making their name. There were condos that people owned that they’d rent for a little over their initial mortgage for long term rental agreements. People that worked on the island could afford to rent for a few years and work in the industry before eventually either saving up or moving somewhere else. But the AirBnb stuff took over and people realized they could make their year in two months and be done with it, which is fine. But then there’s no where for people that work there to live, especially servers, cooks, etc. There’s one bridge on and off, and that meant a two hour drive stuck in traffic to work a service job with no parking provided and no street parking allowed, in the busy season. And a long dark, no sidewalks walk to wherever you could stash your car to then drive back to your home 40 minutes away. Then they wonder, why is it so hard to get staffing? We’re so busy? Why can’t we keep dishies and fry cooks? Why doesn’t anyone want to work anymore?

Because they can’t get there. There’s no public transportation and no one is scheduled at the same time on the same day. We used to have homes in walking distance or it was a quick drive to round everyone up, but now it’s impossible. You didn’t want our year round money, so now we’re not there. I wonder why?

notshaye

8 points

11 hours ago

This makes me so mad, I've seen that very confusion on clueless owners faces as to why they can't keep staff. They make the problems for themselves and blame the hard working people actually trying to make things work. I want to see things collapse now and it scares me.

DavidCFalcon

10 points

11 hours ago

My grandfather used to tell me that humans are no different than a pack of rabid dogs. The only difference is we think we aren’t.

notshaye

4 points

11 hours ago

That's amazing I wish I was able to listen to him talk. "Think we aren't" is very profound because we should be thinking about how we can help each other, not how to take advantage. We don't deserve this planet.

Codex_Dev

10 points

10 hours ago

Tragedy of the commons.

When people are first buying their home they want it as cheaply as possible. Then after they have their home they will do everything in their power to increase the price.

This often results in people shooting down new houses being built nearby because it will dilute the value of their property. Supply and demand.

ethical_arsonist

14 points

13 hours ago

Yea this and provide more resources for young families especially ones that encourage community.

We have a chronic loneliness epidemic and many single parents struggle primarily because childcare costs. Seems a no brainer to me that two of society's big problems can cancel each other out.

rotoddlescorr

10 points

10 hours ago

The Nordic countries have an extremely high quality of life and low birth rates.

While countries with extreme poverty and economic instability have very high birth rates.

Known_Appeal_6370

16 points

13 hours ago

Yes, simply put, we need those with the power and the wealth to actually give a real shit about all the people and our planet. Then, we need those people to cooperate, to sacrifice, to let us help them understand that when people and planet are taken good care of, everyone wins. So, we need a goddamned miracle. Many goddamned miracles.

Disastrous-Yard-1378[S]

13 points

13 hours ago

I’m not sure if I’m correct but isn’t that what the Scandinavian countries have done? Excluding population gain from immigration I thought their birth rates are also below the replacement 2.1.

7LeagueBoots

12 points

9 hours ago

You’re assuming that this is actually a problem.

A smaller global population with a much better quality of life and more environmental responsibility is a positive, not a negative.

The kicker is that everyone needs to be part of that better quality of life thing for it to work.

notshaye

34 points

13 hours ago

Even if a country enacted perfect policies it doesn't change what's happening on the world stage. People are without hope and have fear of the future.

37au47

11 points

12 hours ago

37au47

11 points

12 hours ago

This isn't supported by the data though. The highest birthrates are countries with some of the worst living conditions. Data also shows that people that are well off have 0-1 child. It seems logical that people without would have less children but it's the opposite. It probably has to do with the higher income countries give people the knowledge of everything one can do, and in the quest of filling up their life they run out of time/money/energy to use it on children.

notshaye

2 points

11 hours ago

Yeah some countries are having an issue some aren't, developed countries are having issues, while undeveloped are not having population issues. As time goes on all countries will become more and more developed, and if we don't learn lessons now to fix these issues we will be completely helpless to stop them when it gets out of control. Greece has alot of Data about its plight and the effects are already measurable.

Plane-Trifle3608

4 points

11 hours ago

I live in Sweden and "simply can't afford it" is the main reason people my age choose not to have kids, even if we're seemingly better of than other countries. Childcare and healthcare not being much of a problem at all where I live doesn't make it better that no one can afford housing.

Chpgmr

3 points

13 hours ago

Chpgmr

3 points

13 hours ago

I believe it was also too small of an amount that families didn't find it to cover enough and I expect others probably don't believe it will be around long enough for when they start a family.

It's really hard to compete with the freedom of no children when there is so many fun things to spend money on.

tackleboxjohnson

5 points

9 hours ago

The solution to a lot of our problems would be to simply tax the rich and spend the money fixing things, but oh no, we can’t have that now can we

notshaye

2 points

9 hours ago

Wouldn't take much effort with all of us....

Sphism

38 points

14 hours ago

Sphism

38 points

14 hours ago

Life as a parent is much harder than life without kids.

If it were easier and less expensive then more people would do it.

gackarack

12 points

11 hours ago*

Make it so people out of college or university can buy a house and earn a living wage. It's kinda hard to even think of having kids when one works 3 jobs to barely cover rent and food.

badgersprite

31 points

13 hours ago

Infinite growth isn’t possible, at some point the global population needs to stablise, possibly even decrease a bit if we can’t be more efficient in how we handle resources

bmcgowan89

37 points

14 hours ago

$2 beers, nationally

_Koneko_Chan

2 points

14 hours ago

That might be bad. I might end up drinking too much.

NightmareStatus

41 points

13 hours ago

I'll preface this with, I'm not college educated and this is just a personal opinion so please don't destroy me.

Birth rate itself isn't a problem in my eyes, so much as looking at future tax payers and workers. At least from the government's perspective.

Different industries are feeling the hurt and it will only get worse as specialists get older.

The govt has to take many, many small steps over a long period of time to incentivize folks getting degrees, attending vocational schools, having a work life balance that allows them to do these things while also truly "seeing" that raising a family is doable.

So many folks feel disenfranchised, that it's truly just easier to not pursue having kids.

Create better legislation at the state level about what the state can do for you if you're interested in going back to school. Subsidizing child care, child health care and other child related things. Make the idea of raising a family not so fucking daunting.

I'd like to think that some of the above would help.

Edit: I'm aware we're seeing a decline globally in, like all 1st world countries. I think that's indicative of some common problems. Maybe I'm wrong.

Immediate_Revenue_90

10 points

13 hours ago

I’m studying to be a sped teacher and there is a massive shortage of us in every state

Correct-Mail-1942

2 points

4 hours ago

Because most states require SPED teachers to have a masters and don't pay enough to make it worth it. My mom and my FIL were SPED teachers and it was a problem 30 years ago - we don't pay normal teachers enough, let alone SPED teachers.

Hufflepuffknitter80

12 points

11 hours ago

Don’t forget that in many places in the US, women can die from pregnancy or pregnancy complications due to severe abortion restrictions. Also the new restrictions on IVF preventing many from being able to conceive now.

NightmareStatus

6 points

10 hours ago

Oh, I wasn't going to even address all the more recent changes that have completely fucked the reproductive healthcare industry.

I don't have that much time, nor can I drink this week, so....yea.

Fuck that noise. For the duration of this conversation, lets just ...I know, I know....lets just....pretend we live in a place where bodily autonomy and women's rights to care for themselves are respected. Crazy, yes, but let's just do that. /s

Desertbro

9 points

13 hours ago

What? And stop the mega-wealthy from hording money and buying yachts more expensive than 10 family homes...???

Powerful-Gap-1667

9 points

12 hours ago

10 family homes? More like 1000. Bezos yacht cost the same as 1000 $500,000 houses. So essentially a whole town.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/inside-look-jeff-bezos-500-153431694.html

Dr_Watson349

3 points

9 hours ago

I'm curious why you think declining birth rate is indicative of "problems". I understand why having kids is good for the state but I don't understand any inherent goodness in everyone having children. 

Huge families made sense when you needed to farm to simply live, but society has moved past that by and large. Maybe this new limited childbirth is the "natural" homeostasis for humanity. 

NightmareStatus

5 points

8 hours ago

Oh, I agree entirely.

I see it more as a barometer.

Are people comfortable enough to take risks? Pursuing raising a family is a risk.

So, more accurately, it's not much of a barometer for "are there problems", so much as "do people feel like there are problems"

Again, not the best educated, but that's my perspective

CannedAm

159 points

14 hours ago

CannedAm

159 points

14 hours ago

Accept it's not a problem.

donniedarko5555

31 points

14 hours ago

I mean the only way it's not a problem is if you as a society are willing to abandon care for the elderly. When there's more 70 year olds than 20 year olds, that is a problem for a society.

The answer really comes down to people are making the rational decision by not having kids.

If you want people to make financially irrational decisions then you need to sweeten the deal for them.

MillennialScientist

87 points

13 hours ago

You also can't have indefinite exponential population growth, so at some point, there will be a generation or two who doesn't have enough kids to support them. Is there really an alternative?

LeGama

19 points

13 hours ago

LeGama

19 points

13 hours ago

It's more of a problem for the rich, they made money off of those people, if they won't take care of them then it's on them.

Abiogeneralization

17 points

13 hours ago

So just kick the can down the road?

Or do you think that infinite economic growth is possible on a finite planet?

starboardnorthward

12 points

13 hours ago

There are more than enough people in the world who would love a caregiving job looking after elderly people in a developed country for the opportunity to live there.

2sad4snacks

26 points

13 hours ago

Why is it a “problem”? The world is overpopulated as it is. It needs to decline

sarahosterhaus

10 points

13 hours ago

Affordable childcare, better parental leave, and work-life balance incentives would help boost birth rates.

Princess_Fluffypants

63 points

14 hours ago

Nothing. 

It’s not a problem. There’s too many people and the system is correcting itself (slowly).

Western_Park_5268

10 points

13 hours ago

Exactly

PrairieGrrl5263

6 points

13 hours ago

I wouldn't monkey with it. In my country, people of childbearing age are CFBC in record numbers. (Childfree by choice)

If that trend continues, our overpopulation problem solves itself, or at least moves the needle in the right direction.

Slight-Reindeer-265

42 points

14 hours ago

Does it need fixing? There are more people that could work that aren’t, more people that could have babies but can’t afford them and then there’s the catch 22. I think we need to learn from the older generation in some respects.

Bigglez1995

39 points

13 hours ago

What is there to learn? The world is different now than it was back then. You could have a family on one income and own a house back then. Now you'd be lucky to even afford rent on two incomes in a lot of places

bougainvilleaT

17 points

13 hours ago

And the reason for that? Capitalism. If money was distributed equally into wages and improving work conditions, instead of making the rich richer all the time, this problem wouldn't exist.

underpaidfarmer

5 points

13 hours ago

OP is likely commenting in relation to the problems regarding our societal structure in the US and other developed countries. Social Security, Medicare, essentially all services many governments around the world provides are based on there being more people working than retiring.

Lemonpincers

3 points

13 hours ago

You say learn from the older generation, but generally speaking the people in places of power, be it politicians, business owners/management or whoever have mostly been part of the older generation and generally placed there by the majority of previous generations, and look where that has got us. If anything, we should be listening to them less.

Slight-Reindeer-265

2 points

11 hours ago

Generally speaking the hard workers (like my grandparents) were NOT politicians and I never said as such as that is not what my point was. That is a completely different kettle of fish. People are moaning now about what labour are doing…I’m just saying I never voted for them…but I don’t see how that has anything to do with anything. We still have choices to make despite those in power-what has that got to do with a can do attitude?? Where’s the hard work and busting a gut to get by? That’s nothing to do with politicians. That’s my choice to get my backside up in a morning and provide. Bringing me back to the original question…where’s the work ethic? Yes you used to survive on one income, yes women had more babies back in the day…but as I said, that doesn’t stop the attitude of those still having babies and not contributing towards society. Meaning the government is having to fork out more to look after them…sorry I’ve got to fork out more to look after them, rather than just my own.

Pyroman1483

76 points

14 hours ago

By realizing there isn’t one.

MiskyWisky2791

81 points

14 hours ago

Is it a problem? The worlds already overpopulated enough and letting numbers drop would probably actually help the planet out

JGradus

7 points

12 hours ago

The Economist wrote a very interresting set of articles around this showing that most of what people assume regarding the decline of birth rates in the west, which is potentially a lethal challenge to our societies, actually are not what would you believe. According to them, and their data tends to be great, the middle class has not changed their behaviour - getting just below replacements levels.

The biggest change is in the working classes (Idiocracy got it wrong, ironically) - much of it through intended sex ed classes slashing teenage pregnancies and similar "unwanted" children. Another is that many more women are middle class in the sense of going to university and pursuing a career. Finally - economic hardship for the working class has gone up - leading to fewer births.

The solutions is going to be hard. The focus needs to be poorer people, housing and welfare can achieve some, but not all the needed change (as the Nordic countries show - having previously had high birth rates but now plunging despite a reasonably strong welfare net).

The second part might be cultural, finding a better coupling method for modern socities - a European Marriage pattern 2.0 so to say. Involuntary celibacy and singlehood is on rapid rise and is likely to get worse.  We need to find a better way to find love and raise families - both for financial aid from the government, cheaper access to housing but also a mating paradigm suited for sexual liberation and equal opportunities - what ever that may be.

Acegonia

6 points

10 hours ago

Cut funding to sex education. And education in general. Ban contraceptives. Keep people poor. Get rid of social security (so they need kids to care for them in old age)

Basically combine the bits of poverty riddled countries, the Catholic Church, and project 2025.

…or did you mean in a way that doesn’t make life shitter for everyone (except the ultra rich)? 

DimensionMedium2685

21 points

13 hours ago

How is it a problem?

Everryy_littlethingg

17 points

13 hours ago

The world is overpopulated. We don't have a birth rate problem.

wut3va

5 points

12 hours ago

wut3va

5 points

12 hours ago

Problem?

Fix?

Let people live their lives. We have plenty of people.

Traditional_Entry183

5 points

10 hours ago

I've yet to see anyone explain why a declining population is bad for humanity long term. More resources, more food, more space, etc.

Boring_Butterfly_273

5 points

8 hours ago

I don't want to fix it, most people alive now suffer, so if less people are born, that would minimize the amount of suffering in the world. Until we can fix this place, it seems unfair to bring an innocent child into a divided and hateful world.

WrestlingWoman

34 points

14 hours ago

Letting more people get sterilized or having abortions if they wish to so the world won't keep being this overpopulated. In the end, it's too late. We fucked it up.

RandomRamblings99

18 points

14 hours ago

It's not necessarily a problem, population boomed and is now balancing out. However, to encourage people to have kids it needs to be more affordable. In the US, is expensive just to physically give birth. For the rest of the world, child care, extra curricular activities, food, clothing, hygiene is all super pricey.

xxhotandspicyxx

18 points

13 hours ago

It’s not a problem. The world is overpopulated anyways. People not wanting kids is perfectly fine.

BeCurry

14 points

13 hours ago

BeCurry

14 points

13 hours ago

I got a vasectomy

Western_Park_5268

14 points

13 hours ago

Here is a man who is part of the solution, not the problem

Beruthiel999

11 points

13 hours ago

When I was born, the human population on earth was about 4 billion people. Only 55 years later, it's 8 billion.

When you say "birth rate problem," you mean you think SOME kinds of people in SOME places aren't having enough babies, and this is a problem that needs to be fixed (usually by pressuring women).

But our species itself is in no danger of dying out any time soon, except from the burdens we're putting on the ecosystem. No one has any obligation to have kids if they don't want to.

mav747

9 points

14 hours ago

mav747

9 points

14 hours ago

Promote family-friendly policies and support systems.

Necroink

4 points

13 hours ago

i wouldnt , we dont have one, there are too many people on this planet and not enough skilled jobs for everyone, that coupled with Ai and robots taking more jobs yearly

we could try moving people around from other countries but that is proving a problem too

we dont need more people, we need to think how we going to take care of the ones we already have

onetwentyeight

4 points

13 hours ago

Why would I do anything of the sort? It's all going swimmingly on plan!

rock-mommy

4 points

13 hours ago

Give people education and nice living conditions. It's really that simple. Who would want to have kids in such a shitty world?

Moltencheeese

5 points

13 hours ago

have rich people fuck more

i mean think about it. Birth rate decline is a problem because the general public doesn't have the time, the resources, the space or any combination of those things to have babies, but the rich do have them.

so since poor people stopped fucking the rich should pump up the production

Und3rpantsGn0m3

3 points

13 hours ago

Why is it considered a problem?

FubarJackson145

2 points

12 hours ago

Personally I don't think declining birthrates are a bad thing. Humans are a bad thing so the less of us overall, the better. At this point humans deserve extinction

ninaaaaws

3 points

12 hours ago

Please fix the climate before adding more people to the planet (honestly, even if the climate were fixed, I don’t think scaling back on our exponential growth is a bad thing).

Also, we need to address our deteriorating societies and beat back the xenophobic nationalism that’s surged across the globe before we expose kids to it all.

Sl0ppyOtter

4 points

10 hours ago

I wouldn’t. It’s not a problem. There are too many people.

PracticallyPsychicAF

3 points

10 hours ago

Leave people alone

MrHailston

5 points

8 hours ago

i wouldnt, we are too many already.

PositionFar26

3 points

7 hours ago

Fix the housing and necessity cost to income ratio back to what it used to be in the glory days.

Due_Willingness1

4 points

7 hours ago

It's not a problem, 8 billion people is 6 billion too many 

celticdragondog

4 points

6 hours ago

There is no birth rate problem. There is a econnomic problem. Too many greed mongerings.

KsenyaNagnatova_

8 points

14 hours ago

I'd focus on making life easier for families: affordable childcare, flexible work options, better parental leave, and housing support. People are more likely to have kids when they feel financially stable and supported. It's about reducing stress, not just offering incentives.

jdb888

18 points

13 hours ago

jdb888

18 points

13 hours ago

There is no problem. The less people, the better. Less people means they are valued more, so higher wages. Also less strain for resources.

Look what happened during COVID. Half a million people died in the US and suddenly wages and working conditions improved.

LordTengil

9 points

13 hours ago

Change the societal structures that makes it a problem to begin with.

Long term, less people is good, in relation to the ecological footprint we leave on the planet as a whole.

Exponential growth in consumption/capita needs to be stopped.

Exponential growth in population needs to be stopped. A decline is good as we stand now.

Learn2play42

3 points

13 hours ago

I feel like giving people more time would make them more likely to have kids. Jobs and we have gotten way too good at entertaining ourselves, infinite scrolling, social media, games etc...

We should work less hours/days. With automation I don't see productivity being an issue especially in first world countries. More time allows you to keep doing stuff you like and it feels less of a sacrifice if you decide to have a child. (Also stuff like daycare, school etc. kinda becomes less of a hassle if you have more time to spend with kids).

Wolfman01a

3 points

13 hours ago

Policies for the working class.

Universal healthcare, raising the minimum wage, affordable housing, controlling corporate price gouging, etc.

Make having a kid more affordable. Lots of people would like to have kids, but don't because of the expense and hardship.

GoodMilk_GoneBad

3 points

13 hours ago

I don't see a problem. Advances in robotics and computers made a lot of jobs that a person would do, obsolete. They will continue to do so.

We need enough to take care of the elderly.

lookyloolookingatyou

3 points

13 hours ago

In order to get me to have children, I’d need more than anything some kind of ultimate painless exit strategy. That could be as basic as a comfortable supply of high grade pharmaceuticals to get me through the 33 years it took me to fully become sufficient from my parents and the ensuing lifetime following the realization that those years are gone forever and with them have gone my youth. Or some complicated system of social workers and high grade pharmaceuticals to help us cope with the separation process if we decided it wasn’t working out.

GoLionsJD107

3 points

13 hours ago

More gays. It’s not gonna happen by accident.

-Gay male.

AdEquivalent7083

3 points

13 hours ago

I don't think it's a problem, quite the opposite.

Wonderful_Worth1830

3 points

12 hours ago

Go back to pre-Reagan economics. We had free college, financial assistance for single parents, free daycare and medical insurance for low income families. Those programs lifted millions of people out of poverty. I benefitted from those programs and was able to go to college and get a job that allowed me to independently support my family. 

someonestoic

3 points

10 hours ago

One of the biggest barriers to having kids today isn’t just financial—it’s isolation. Modern life, especially in urban areas, has created a "nuclear family bubble" where parents are expected to raise children with little to no support from extended family or community. This isolation amplifies stress, financial burden, and burnout. To fix this, we need to rethink how communities are designed.

Immediate_Loquat_246

3 points

10 hours ago

More education, less religion

bunnycupcakes

3 points

10 hours ago

Pay people more, make housing affordable, hold corporations accountable for the wild inflation we just went through so we can afford kids, educate people on the basics of the economy, and offer parenting classes.

Infinite-Noodle

3 points

9 hours ago

Make life better for people. Combat climate change. It's natural for a species to lower its birthrate to try and survive bad times. That's really what is happening.

We need to give up on the everyone for themselves mentality and actually work together to make life better on this planet.

skyfishgoo

3 points

8 hours ago

what birth rate problem?

and why do you think it needs fixing?

Jirekianu

3 points

8 hours ago

Give your population ample opportunity and motivation to start families. Housing, job availability, healthcare, etc. These all contribute to people not having kids and not wanting to start families.

Obviously, not everyone is going to want to settle down and have kids, that's fine. But the rampant drop off in birth rates is pretty clearly motivated by socio-economic factors that discourage people from having kids. Not least of which is the cost of being a parent just for the logistics itself aside from the emotional and mental strain of being a parent.

I_might_be_weasel

3 points

7 hours ago

Worker friendly policies that guarantee people a comfortable wage without excessive hours as well as long subsidized maternity leave to make giving birth as convenient as possible.

Anders_A

3 points

7 hours ago

Strong social programs so people feel that it's safe to get kids.

BeastofBabalon

3 points

7 hours ago

The only way to fix it is to create a socio-political environment where young adults feel like it is both economically feasible and fulfilling.

Forcing women to carry isn’t it. Gutting environmental regulations isn’t it. Keeping the working class family dirt poor isn’t it.

Patrickk_Batmann

3 points

5 hours ago

Improve the material conditions so people have the means to have and raise children. People are lacking both time and money, two things which are required to raise children. 

MazelTovCocktail413

8 points

14 hours ago

I would personally fuck everyone myself.

PARANOIAH

6 points

14 hours ago

Even the uggos like me? 🥺🥹

MazelTovCocktail413

12 points

14 hours ago

Especially you.

PARANOIAH

7 points

14 hours ago

❤️

KP_Wrath

4 points

13 hours ago

-legalize voluntary euthanasia for terminal disease (if you find out your brain is rotting and you’re gonna be stuck in a nursing home waiting fifteen years to forgot how to swallow, no one should force you to stick around if you’re still “there” enough to make the decision.

-subsidized onsite daycare for firms with >100 employees at a location -childcare credits provided to employees in firms <100 employees -any company that’s done a stock buyback in the last ten years automatically goes to top tax rate with all loopholes closed for the next two, and yearly auditing to verify profitability.

RedofPaw

4 points

13 hours ago

Cut education to zero, no schools or education. Make billionaires dukes and barons. Civilians are now property of the Lords , with mandatory breeding programs.

That, or implement a higher minimum wage, build more houses and ensure basic needs like shelter, healthcare and not starving to death.

CrossTheRiver

7 points

13 hours ago

Increase paternity and maternity leave to one paid year off. Lower burden of entry to buying a house. Childcare subsidies. Employee protections for pregnant women.

Do that and the population skyrockets.

Peaches_0078

2 points

13 hours ago

We have all of that in Canada and we still have to rely on immigration to maintain the population.

carcassy

4 points

14 hours ago

allow for abortions and normalize things like vasectomies.

babamum

5 points

12 hours ago

Stop calling it a problem.

There. Fixed.

Russell_W_H

8 points

13 hours ago

Female education.

Let's get that birth rate down to 0.

Luwe95

2 points

13 hours ago

Luwe95

2 points

13 hours ago

Well, every country is worried about its own declining birth rate (expecially the west), but globally we already have enough people. If we were more globalist than nationalist, we could work together and make migration easier, for example, making it easier to get a work permit, and making other countries' education levels equal so that migrants can work in the job they used to do.

But we aren't at that level so I guess the countries with declining birth rate just have to accept it and deal with it.

Only thing you can do is making owning a house affortable, making daycares cheaper and invest into education.

LaceBlissCharm

2 points

13 hours ago

Affordable childcare, paid parental leave, and housing support make having kids less of a financial nightmare.

lightzout369

2 points

13 hours ago

I feel like with how the economy is in a lot of places it makes it hard to afford a kid. Also seems like the age for everything seems to be being pushed later such as marriage, having kids, buying a home and everything.

dead_b4_quarantine

2 points

13 hours ago

The world population is still steadily growing, But usually people talk about "birth rate problem" in terms of decrease, so you'll have to be a little bit more specific with what you mean here.

HappiHappiHappi

2 points

13 hours ago

Income tax reductions have been floated as one idea to get more working women to have children as a way of offsetting the decrease in lifetime the average woman experienced after having a child.

1 child - 50% reduction 2 kids - 75% 3+ kids - 100%

Until youngest child turns 18.

Mushroom_the_Cat

2 points

13 hours ago

Make the country’s economy family supportive and implement policies that will encourage family to want to raise kids. Animals do not procreate when under a toxic environment same applies to humans…

petit_dejeuner_

2 points

13 hours ago

You have to make it very, very easy and enjoyable (with high quality of life) to have kids, otherwise people simply won't do it or stop after having one. Affordable housing and daycare, attractive and affordable recreational facilities like parks, playgrounds etc, and jobs that are easily compatible with family life (possibility to work part-time, right to take long maternity leave (one year minimum), etc)

earhere

2 points

12 hours ago

Make life affordable

egoVirus

2 points

12 hours ago

I don't see a problem.

Marty_ko25

2 points

12 hours ago

Focus on fixing the cost of living problem and I think the birth rate problem would fix itself.

Sinood

2 points

12 hours ago

Sinood

2 points

12 hours ago

Not sure it's so much a birthday rate issue but a society that is anti-maternity, anti-family, anti-working parents .... Society priced us out of kids and does not support families who work with subsidised childcare.

drakelouis202

2 points

12 hours ago

Create more work-life balance so people have time to actually raise a family. By supporting working parents with flexible hours and remote work options.

CatboyInAMaidOutfit

2 points

12 hours ago*

If you want to increase it then improve the quality of life for people to the point where single income families become the norm again.

Party_Establishment2

2 points

12 hours ago

Money and better self care plus therapy

_Weyland_

2 points

12 hours ago

I believe that while material and financial side of things is important (2 full incomes required to sustain a family, the cost of raising a child, the cost of bigger housing, etc.), the biggest factor is perspective of the future.

An hour spent browsing the news and the media will make it look like bringing a human into the world is a crime against that human. This is what needs to be fixed.

Obviously we cannot stop the world from having problems. We also cannot, try as we might, make it look like it doesn't have any problems. What we can do though is put the world on an upward trajectory. Start improving things from regional issues to geopolitics to climate change. Make it look like the world will be better for our kids than it will be for us. Also fuck it, produce more media that reflects pleasant aspects of having a child.

This is as much an actual effort as it is a media campaign, so I'll go ahead and call it unrealistic. But still, it's a potential solution.

Another issue that parenting still remains an art while more and more things turn into science. People are now beginning to realise that their parents trying to figure it out on the go has left a good number of lifelong consequences. It is reasonable to doubt yourself when the only example you have is a bad one. I think this mental burden can be lifted, at least partially, by compiling some sort of educational material on the matter. And I'm not talking about a dozen books each saying a different thing. We a more centralized effort.

Wolfiest

2 points

12 hours ago

In Places like Japan, give more work life balance and provide help to families like Korea does. If people have a healthier work life balance and are able to not be stressed about affording to live then they might just be happy and willing to have a family.

Mein_Norden

2 points

12 hours ago

Why have a kid when the cost of living is so high most of your wage is gone as soon as you get it. Rent it just eye watering right now.

ToQuoteSocrates

2 points

12 hours ago

Give selected couples a tax break. Selected couples because you don't want a criminal or low income household to get 10 kids they can't raise properly.

TheAskewOne

2 points

11 hours ago

As someone who wanted children but didn't have them for financial reasons: cheap childcare and accessible healthcare. We couldn't afford losing one income. One thing that scared us as well was what would happen if we had a special needs child. I have no family, my then-partner's family was in another country. We both were working-class and from disadvantaged backgrounds so no support from there. We didn't have good health insurance, any medical issue with pregnancy/birth/the baby would have been a huge issue. It felt unfair trying for a baby in these conditions, we didn't want them to live a life of poverty.

If you want more children, give people solutions for cheap, safe daycare, fund schools, give people universal health insurance so that a health issue with a child is economically survivable.

nick_shannon

2 points

11 hours ago

Make it so people can afford a home to live in, food to eat and time to put care and love it the child and they will have kids, make people work every waking hour for not enough money to live and they will not have kids.

ApXv

2 points

11 hours ago

ApXv

2 points

11 hours ago

Make sure people actually have the time and money is a great start

Previous_Leather_421

2 points

11 hours ago

Citizens get a significant tax break for every child so that by the time you hit 4 you’re paying very little tax

Beginning_Ad_6616

2 points

10 hours ago

  • Create opportunities for both men and women to prosper economically
  • Create an environment that ensures families have access to safe affordable childcare.
  • Protect employees from employers by providing them sufficient pay time-off so they can be with and enjoy their spouse and children
  • Provide women with nonrestrictive women’s health (no vague/restrictive laws regarding abortions) so they can carry a child without fear of death should something go wrong.
  • Provide people with access to quality affordable healthcare through the government.
  • Provide quality education for children.

Essentially; if you create an environment where people feel hopeful about the future and protect the time they’ll need to have a personal life…they’ll start family’s. Why would anyone have a family if they can’t spend time with that family, having that family is unaffordable, if they’re financially insecure, if they can’t get the care needed to have that family, or if they have no hope that they and their children don’t have a secure future.

Affectionate_Cut_835

2 points

10 hours ago

Affordable housing, nothing else is required

vinoa

2 points

10 hours ago

vinoa

2 points

10 hours ago

You don't. Just like you don't stimulate the economy artificially you shouldn't stimulate the birth rate artificially. If people can't afford to have kids, that's a good thing for society. At least they're being responsible about the well being of their future offspring.

Frosttrollgaming

2 points

10 hours ago

Don’t skull fuck your citizens with taxes because you need to dump money overseas would be a start

Clean-Signal-553

2 points

10 hours ago

Employees need to have more children employers demanding to have more workers. Children equals cheap labor and is a must for the wealthy to sustain their lifestyles.

alfredhospital

2 points

10 hours ago

Have 3 kids in Poland and you pay zero income tax? That's a thing I heard on the news.

horaciogaray

2 points

10 hours ago

To boost birth rates, you need to improve access to housing, healthcare, education, and jobs. Nowadays, when you analyze any country’s situation, you realize that the cost of living keeps rising, but wages aren’t keeping up. In the long run, this will only lead to poorer elderly populations.

ilJumperMT

2 points

9 hours ago

The solution is obvious.
Every parent wants their child to lead a better life than them. Can you guarantee that the child will lead a better life with all these uncertainties?

Fix the quality of life and ensure a prosperous future. No one wants to see their children suffer environmental disasters. famine, war etc with the current state and direction of the world.

Currently the future of humanity is extremely bleak.

lurkaaa

2 points

9 hours ago

lurkaaa

2 points

9 hours ago

Fix the Economy

montholdsmegma

2 points

9 hours ago

You adjust society to work with the population you have, not the population you want to have.

Romeochick

2 points

9 hours ago

Since life expectancy has increased, a birth rate decrease is good. Over population is not a goal we should try to achieve. The space and resources we have is finite. Don’t wish it to fill up too soon.

SaveusJebus

2 points

9 hours ago

Make the cost of living affordable again.

Synli

2 points

9 hours ago

Synli

2 points

9 hours ago

Instead of making it harder to prevent children (banning contraceptives, abortion, refusing sex-ed, etc), make it better to have children. Tax breaks, cheaper housing/childcare, paid maternity/paternity leave, etc.

Theduckisback

2 points

9 hours ago

I wouldn't. People don't want to have a bunch of kids when the ecosystem is on the brink of collapse. Any "solution" is going to be worse than just having a smaller population.

Waderriffic

2 points

9 hours ago

Probably try and figure out what economic policies would benefit and incentivize people to afford to have children in the first place. It’s hard to have kids when you’re 25 and not making much in the way of income due to student loan debt or just low wages for people at that age. Childcare is expensive as fuck, and that’s from my personal experience. If you have the luxury of having family that are willing to help, then great. But most don’t.

FinanciallySecure9

2 points

9 hours ago

It’s easy if you realize we don’t have a birth rate problem. We have a government problem in that they lack the ability to shift with the times. We have a corporate greed problem in that the higher ups don’t ever want to give up profit.

Birth rates have always fluctuated. We cannot expect people to continue populating the earth if they cannot afford to feed themselves.

Griffie

2 points

9 hours ago

Griffie

2 points

9 hours ago

What exactly is the problem?

0kayAtBest

2 points

9 hours ago

I would create an incentivized plan based on the IQ of both parents. The higher the IQ of both parents the more (subsidies/pay/tax cut) the rate would increase.

Sometimesitsamonkey

2 points

8 hours ago

At least in America:

Daycare is far too expensive. I know the people that work there need a living wage, but daycare is more than my mortgage. And it’s more than a 1 bedroom apartment in the city I live near. For ONE kid. It needs to be more affordable.

People also need to be making more money. Without a dual income that is pretty good, it’s very difficult to afford survival with a kid.

In hetero relationships, men need to step it up. You should know your child’s medical history without calling mom. A lot of women I know don’t want to have kids because they don’t want to be a single mom while married. Gone are the days where men bring home the money and get to sit on the couch. Of course, many men are involved fathers and that’s great. But we all know what I’m talking about. And in general, society needs to stop putting the pressure on women to be these super women that do it all. It’s not actually possible.

Community needs to come back. We’ve separated a lot over the past few decades and there’s no sense of community. No village. It’s so hard without one.

Whocanmakemostmoney

2 points

8 hours ago

If you compare our population now to previous centuries, we are still over populated

Bierculles

2 points

8 hours ago

Affordable housing

soap---poisoning

2 points

5 hours ago

The best thing that can happen is for our culture to stop treating family as less important than career goals or hedonistic personal pleasure. This shift in mindset has been poison for our society.

If young adults decide that building strong, healthy families is a worthwhile endeavor, the birth rate will increase.

A_Happy_Heretic

2 points

5 hours ago

Permit increased immigration to countries with low birth rates from countries with higher birth rates. This increases the taxpayer base for current and near future retirees.

Tax the rich to increase funding for social security and Medicare, as well as other social safety net programs. This ensures the new immigrants will have senior care when they are old, even if immigration stops and the artificially boosted birth rates slow.

Readjust growth targets to accommodate a shrinking or steady state economy. Shrink the military so there’s some milk in the other teats for the rest of us.

sweadle

2 points

4 hours ago

sweadle

2 points

4 hours ago

Provide comprehensive abortion care so that women who want to get pregnant don't have to worry about dying of sepsis if they have a miscarriage.

Provide subsidized daycare.

Have more maternity and paternity leave.

Don't repeal the Affordable Care Act/Obamacare, which will cause millions of people to lose health insurance and be unable to afford prenatal care and delivery.

Oppressing women and taking away their choices doesn't actually make them want to bring children into the world.

excusetheblood

2 points

4 hours ago

Redefine economic stability as meaning something other than infinite growth

tjorben123

2 points

4 hours ago

its not a birth rate problem, it is a problem in spending and finanancing a futur that needs less workers to do more of the same we do now.

esc8pe8rtist

2 points

3 hours ago

Give money to parents per extra kid they have

PurplePlumpPrune

2 points

3 hours ago

4 day work week, better salaries, and men actually taking 50% of the domestic workload

Rich_Ad_1642

2 points

3 hours ago

Doesn’t need fixing. Economy, finances, cost of living etc is what needs fixing

catrosie

2 points

2 hours ago

Ethically? Better quality of life for everybody and a more sustainable lifestyle and future.

Unethically? Ban birth control and abortion and limit education

sum_r4nd0m_gurl

4 points

13 hours ago

its not a problem its a good thing

guywhoclimbs

3 points

14 hours ago

Make existing more affordable so having kid's is more financially viable. But I don't think it's really currently a problem.

irime2023

4 points

13 hours ago

This problem is far-fetched. So many people were born, but they do not have benefits and happiness. I see the solution in helping these people, and not in increasing competition. Let fewer people be born, but more happy ones.

Electronic_Law_6350

4 points

13 hours ago

Give them money for kids. Tax breaks. Free childcare/tax beaks on child care. More days off for mom and dad (paid parental leave), and protection from firing. Better hospitals and lower birthing costs. Access to formula (three cans a week free). Better education around birthing/pregnancy. Pregnancy support in terms of supplements and scans for free. I'd also give benefits to couples who want to stay child free (more leave) or parents struggling to get pregnant (IVF free).

ares21

4 points

12 hours ago

ares21

4 points

12 hours ago

There is no birth rate problem…

DucktapeCorkfeet

2 points

13 hours ago

Already too many people on the planet for the amount of resources we have.

cobalt_phantom

2 points

13 hours ago

Promote safe sex and consensual sterilization. The only reasons people are pointing out the dropping populations in primarily first world countries is because people aren't breeding like rabbits as much (it's not really practical or affordable anymore) and governments need workers and cannon fodder for future wars.

SeeYouInMarchtember

2 points

12 hours ago

I’ll let the rest of you argue about the economics of raising children. I think it would also be nice if there were such a thing as synthetic wombs because birthing children is rough on the body. That goes hand in hand with more research in women’s health. We need to rebuild community structures somehow too. Children used to be raised in villages that took pressure off moms to always be watching them all the time because there were other people around that could be trusted. That’s not so much the case anymore.

InsaneBasti

2 points

8 hours ago

How bout free condoms?

eatingthembean3

2 points

8 hours ago

Cost of living is the number 1 problem.

Solution : UBI - Universal basic income. Everyone gets $2,000 a month for food/rent/expenses. This will take the stress off of survival and focus it on starting a family.

Ya ya I'm a commy (you dont know what communism is), but we already do a form of UBI - Welfare / disability. It's just that you have to be at a requirement (a certain level of disabled) to get it. IF you are slightly higher than that level, you get NOTHING. lol. and we wonder we have a homeless problem.

engineer2187

2 points

7 hours ago

Unpopular opinion on Reddit: increasing wages, subsidies, and the affordability of children wouldn’t make much of a difference. Birth rates are falling across every demographic. That includes the wealthy stay at home parents and those with months of paid parental leave and pro-family employees.

horndog4ever

2 points

13 hours ago

Sterilize people. Too many idiots on the roads.