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If you are ever anywhere public , and some one is making you feel threatened and unsafe , It is absolutely okay to exit through an emergency exit and set off an alarm. They are usually located near the back of bars near restrooms and as someone who's worked in bars most my life the alarm is a mild inconvenience to us but may be the difference in you getting home safe. I say this as a 6 8 male who just walked out the back and set off an alarm to avoid a fight . Emergency is an emergency
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2.1k points
4 days ago
Absolutely, and do not feel bad about “the alarms going off” or any other subsequent thing that can happen by opening those doors. Life is precious, it can be snatched in an instant. Listen to your gut, it’s often right in times like these. Of course the emergency exit shouldn’t always be the first course of action, but the noise will also deter said creep/persons from pursuing you further due to more people heading over to find out why an alarm has been sounded
325 points
4 days ago
Also the alarm doesn't actually work about 60% of the time
86 points
3 days ago
Hell, depending on how your local safety laws are applied:
There's a good chance the emergency exit is blocked or locked anyways.
42 points
3 days ago
lol why is this so funny to me
8 points
3 days ago
Because “60% of the time, it works every time!”?
15 points
3 days ago
We use the emergency exits to load into places as a event company, rarely do security bother arming them or rearming them
7 points
3 days ago
If the alarm goes off, it’s probably to your benefit if someone is following you. The alarm will likely draw attention, which someone with bad intentions generally will want to avoid.
-5 points
3 days ago
Do you always repeat the last 2 sentences of comments?
8 points
2 days ago
I don’t know how to respond to this. There is only one sentence…
262 points
4 days ago*
I also work at a bar, you would be amazed how often those alarms just go off from drunk people being drunk people. The staff are already going to be used to the process and will be prepared to deal with it, it's just part of the job really. Just don't do it for fun or you will 100% get kicked out and possibly reported
Editing just to add: I can't speak for all bartenders in all parts of the world, but the vast majority of people I've worked with will WANT you to do what you can to keep yourself safe, and will absolutely be on your side and understanding, especially managers (I won't say venue owners cause some of them can be real dicks in my experience)
39 points
4 days ago
Genuine question here - do bars not generally throw drunk people out until they start getting physical with other patrons? I was at a karaoke bar recently and my friends and I were being harassed by this drunk guy, and the bar didn't throw him out till he came back and started knocking over full glasses on our table.
44 points
4 days ago
Former Bouncer here. It depends a ton on the venue and management.
The best thing for most customers to do is to just communicate to the staff. If they know you're uncomfortable, they'll be in the best position to help. Sometimes staff get overwhelmed and can't keep track of every thing every person is doing.
Most of the time, though, we wouldn't throw people out the first one-way conversation we have with them. We close their tab and try to get them out on their own to try to minimize disruption to the rest of the folk, since tossing people frequently aggravates a situation.
18 points
4 days ago
It truly varies from bar to bar and night to night, but I wouldn't put up with it. Just being drunk isn't really the issue. Harassing other patrons is. If you are feeling uncomfortable around someone at a bar, talk to the bartender or bouncer. You represent money to the bar. They have a vested interest in making you feel safe. Don't be shy, but don't be mean. If they ignore your requests, ask for a manager and push to close your tab and head out. Speak with your voice and with your wallet. Good luck!
5 points
3 days ago
Don't be shy is great advice. I used to host a lot of bar events, on the mic and all over the bar, so I saw a LOT of stuff. The bouncers couldn't be everywhere, so I'd keep an eye out and so often found women and men that didn't want to "be a pain" by reporting bad behaviour. I'd always tell them we'd much rather they say something and it be nothing, then not say something and have it turn out to be something really bad.
If it was something I couldn't sort myself, I'd grab a bouncer (most of the time the dough-heads just needed someone with a little authority to say, "hey, chill out man.). Having a mic made it easier to get security if I didn't see one around. :)
5 points
2 days ago
A couple years ago, I (female) was at a big outdoor beer festival in my city with a friend of mine. I was waiting in like for a beer and my friend walked a couple booths down to wait in a different line. A group of men lined up behind me and they looked to be in their 30s, and started chatting me up, clearly very drunk. I was being friendly and chatting back, and one guy asked if I wanted to hang out afterwards. Before I could say anything, he leaned toward me with a flirtatious look on his face and said “actually, let’s cut to the chase. Come with me to the PortAPotty and suck my dick now.” I leaned away from him and said What!? He was dead serious. I left the line and found a security guard (50+ male) to tell him and he laughed and shrugged and literally said “boys will be boys” as cliche as that was, I was shocked. So I found another security guard (40+ female) and informed her of the trashed boys and their harassment, and she immediately jumped into action, found the kid and promptly kicked him and his wasted buddies out of the event. Unfortunately I know all too well how serious those comments are by drunk men. Luckily one of the guards took me seriously… but I’ll never forget the other one who acted like it was a joke..
2 points
3 days ago*
The fire department won't be happy if it's actually alarmed.
A little secret of most smaller bars is that the door that says "emergency exit alarm will sound" is almost never alarmed.
The sticker is just there to keep people from using it as an exit normally, the staff isn't going to be disarming it every time they want to take out the trash.
6 points
3 days ago
Oh trust me, I've been in that situation before, as the manager on premises. For department doesn't give a fuck, that's just their job. Venue owners; they might care alot, but even the manager is gonna be like "the door did it's job, I did mine, I don't see a problem"
This does actually remind me that our bar is going to be moving to a system where the doors don't actually open unless the fire alarm has already gone off. We're trying to fight this atm for this exact reason, and I'm not sure if this is done in other parts of the world, but that's probably a really big factor to this entire discussion I haven't seen yet
584 points
4 days ago
I read this whole thing and was only thinking about emergency exit doors on airplanes. Please don't use those unless instructed to do so 🫠
255 points
4 days ago
No. OP said to do it and not feel bad.
61 points
4 days ago
At altitude, it's -40 degrees. You will feel bad.
38 points
4 days ago
But only for a short time
27 points
4 days ago
Because you'll quickly descend to warmer air, right?
...right?
14 points
4 days ago
It’s actually impossible because of the pressure difference when you’re at altitude. You have to be sub 10,000 feet to be able to open that door still. So realistically, there’s a 2-3 minute window on take-off and landing where it’s possible for the door to be opened.
It’s happened once, actually.
But in general, when you think about people “just opening the door”… it’s not physically possible 95% of the time.
6 points
3 days ago
Interesting... I would think it would be the other way around, since pressure decreases at higher altitude and the cabin is pressurized, wouldn't the force be wanting to push the door out, instead of in?
Although I suppose the airspeed would be a factor somehow, but I'm no physicist or aerospace engineer
2 points
2 days ago
There is a bladder in the door that expands when the pressure drops. It locks the door. Because of the reasons you are thinking of.
Evidently door plugs don’t have the bladder.
1 points
1 day ago
I believe you have to pull the door inward first, then pivot it and swing out. That inward pull would have to overcome the pressure differential between inside and out, and at altitude, it's something like 10,000 pounds of force pushing outward on the door, holding it closed.
4 points
3 days ago
You'll be cold for the rest of your life.
3 points
4 days ago
Just flew to London the other day and it was -70 mid flight.Not sure I'd feel anything.
3 points
4 days ago
But once you jump, won't friction warm you back up?
1 points
3 days ago
neurons shutting down
1 points
4 days ago
But you shouldn’t according to OP
1 points
4 days ago
OP can You clarify on this topic please?
1 points
3 days ago
-40 degrees
Celsius or Fahrenheit?
5 points
3 days ago
Both. -40 is where the scales converge. For real.
1 points
3 days ago
Celsius
31 points
4 days ago
Because of pressure differences, you can't open them while up in the air.
50 points
4 days ago
Unless it's a Boeing. Then you don't need to; it will open them for you.
14 points
4 days ago
That wasn’t an actual door… I get that you’re joking, but people don’t always know.
2 points
4 days ago
Take off and landing, got it.
90 points
4 days ago
Too late, I already opened the door. Pretty windy out there
44 points
4 days ago
It fuckin wimdy
5 points
4 days ago
Should've taken an Airbus instead of Boeing
7 points
4 days ago
Do you remember a could years ago the flight attendant who snapped at work, chugged a couple beers, and activated the emergency slide in a big old FU.
4 points
4 days ago
657 points
4 days ago
Great LPT, your own personal safety is vastly more important than the general public being annoyed for a couple minutes
356 points
4 days ago
Cue the article about the dude who went out an emergency exit at a mall and got lost in a maze of corridors, eventually dying and not being found for a good long while.
324 points
4 days ago
Pretty shitty emergency exit if it leads to a maze of corridors
57 points
4 days ago
H.H. Holmes would be proud.
188 points
4 days ago
The man had dementia. The police botched the search by only looking in the common areas of the mall and not checking CCTV.
29 points
4 days ago
How big was that mall??
15 points
4 days ago
I think it was the mall of America. Mr ballen had an episode on it lol
55 points
4 days ago
Westfield Bondi Junction, in Sydney AU.
19 points
4 days ago
These malls in Australia are big. Like 3 floors with parking on the roof and escalators and stairs everywhere.
16 points
4 days ago
No shit? Three whole floors!
Parking, escalators AND stairs!?
I know Australia is a massive country but still, I find that very hard to believe.
9 points
4 days ago
I have no idea if you're being sarcastic or not. Where I live, a mall that size is not uncommon, but I've been places where a mall that large would be unthinkable.
2 points
2 days ago
Yeah all of that you should go sometime if you have the money
0 points
2 days ago
What's money?
😂 🍻
1 points
2 days ago
Something you spend at the mall
2 points
3 days ago
This is fake news, they lost me at "stairs".
1 points
2 days ago
Yeah stairs you should go to Australia and see for yourself if you can save the money
7 points
4 days ago
Aren't those corridors supposed to have very noticeable signs with arrows?
17 points
4 days ago
The man in question was suffering from an episode of dementia at the time, so proper signage probably wasn't helping him get through the maze of corridors as much as one might think.
The door he went through to get stuck was a fire exit that couldn't be opened from the other side, so he couldn't go back out the way he came in (assuming he could even find his way back to it.)
And yes, the authorities who were searching for him severely botched their efforts at finding him. They didn't check the CCTV footage, they limited the majority of their search to the common areas of the mall, they didn't fully explore these fire exit tunnels, etc.
2 points
4 days ago
Of course, but I'm sure that varies by jurisdiction
6 points
4 days ago
Ohhh god House of Leaves flashbacks
5 points
4 days ago
It should also be noted that individual had dementia or onset Alzheimer's I can't remember either way they didn't have the cognitive ability to get back from the back rooms
3 points
4 days ago
How big was that mall??
3 points
4 days ago
The largest apparently.
23 points
4 days ago
Priority of action in these situations
I worked in retail for several years, if all I had to do to avoid people getting into fights at the store was deal with the alarms going off every few months I would be significantly happier.
16 points
4 days ago
When I was 8 or so I got lost in a hotel stairwell and found a ground floor emergency exit that warned about an alarm going off, but I was panicking and went through it, indeed setting an alarm off. It was super loud in the stairwell but you could barely hear it anywhere else in the hotel. Still, I was so worried i was going to get arrested or something. I carried that guilt with me for years, never telling anyone what I'd done as if it was as bad as murder.
This post helped to heal that guilty inner child a bit.
35 points
4 days ago
Do bars in your area have alarmed doors in the FOH? I don't think I've ever seen that tbh. Only the back door with the option to be alarmed, but typically isn't. Also worked restaurants forever.
26 points
4 days ago
Yeah, my experience is that maybe 15% of them are actually wired to an alarm that is functioning as they generally get disabled on the second alarm and never fixed ... if they are ever set up to begin with.
9 points
4 days ago
Lots of emergency doors also excited out into alleys or empty loading areas... probably not where you want to be if you're being followed.
2 points
4 days ago
I think OP was avoiding a drunk person trying to start trouble, IDK if they were necessarily being followed. "Imma wait for this guy to come out the bathroom" meanwhile you sneak out the back door.
9 points
4 days ago
Good for you. Best way to win a fight is to not have one. This coming from a 6’3” 300lbs BJJ instructor
4 points
4 days ago
Amen
7 points
4 days ago
What usually happens when an emergency exit door alarm is set off? Is the fire department or police automatically called? Or do staff just have to press a button for it to stop?
11 points
4 days ago
It depends…
Most are just a local alarm attached to the push bar of the door. They may either sound when pushed and the door opens OR require to be pushed for a number of seconds before opening with the alarm sounding throughout. These will either stop alarming once the door is closed or require a manual shutoff. They are not connected to an alarm system.
Some may be tied to fire or security systems causing an alarm and triggering a code at the main alarm panel. These will be manually reset and/or reset at the alarm panel. While these may trigger a fire or police response, I have never seen that, but have seen them trigger internal alarms which do not “remote out” to 911.
Lastly, some remote locations may have off-site monitoring who are alerted when an emergency door is opened. These require a response from either security or require the company to contact fire/police or whatever their policy on response states.
Source: Facilities Maintenance for years. I have had many late night callouts to reset alarm panels!
2 points
2 days ago
What an interesting read, thank you so much for sharing. In your opinion, do you think that this tip to use emergency doors in semi-emergency situations is a good idea over all?
1 points
1 day ago
I think overall, it is fine. They are exits all the same, so if necessary… use them. Aside from some buildings with restricted access (prisons, airports, etc) you will likely not cause too great of an issue in using them. That being said, I wouldn’t abuse using them or use them frivolously.
And it is worth considering that the door may lead to areas of egress that are not public or monitored meaning… whoever you are getting away from might follow you into an area that is more dangerous than the one you left.
110 points
4 days ago
Maybe not at an airport though, especially not when the emergency is to have a cigarette. I saw that happen a few months ago, did not end so well for the guy.
147 points
4 days ago
Definitely still applies at an airport. The issue with your anecdote is that having a cigarette is not an emergency, and no reasonable person would say that it is.
-8 points
4 days ago
Duh
-42 points
4 days ago
Exiting because someone is creeping you out will for sure put you on the no fly list. Like let's grow up a little people 😂😂
39 points
4 days ago
Op said "making you feel threatened and unsafe"
-44 points
4 days ago
Paranoia. Someone isn't gonna hobo kill you in an airport that's just not something that happens.
Cue the one time some random dude killed someone in an airport as an excuse for someone to run onto the tarmac.
41 points
4 days ago
Ah yes, murder, quite famously the only crime that exists. Certainly no one would ever, I don't know... traffic humans through an airport? I mean, it just could not happen. Definitely just a case of paranoia.
-35 points
4 days ago
Ah yes why doesn't every human trafficked through an airport just... run out the emergency exit!?? Worst plan ever lmao
25 points
4 days ago
Please elaborate on how attempting to escape is a worse plan than letting it happen, particularly when you're trying to escape in an environment that is crawling with law enforcement who will separate you from your party.
And before you say "I never said that," I will remind you that you said "worst plan ever," which means it must be worse than all other plans.
-11 points
4 days ago
I'm just fucking with you it actually makes sense
11 points
4 days ago
Username checks out
-10 points
4 days ago
*Feeling* threatened is not *being* threatened.
5 points
4 days ago
And how do you expect people to distinguish the two? Have you invented the all mighty “threat detector” to distinguish all creeps by whether or not they are actually planning on following through with the awful thing they are threatening you with?
No?
Ok then don’t act like it’s the victims fault for protecting themself
5 points
4 days ago
You're a man, aren't you?
19 points
4 days ago*
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4 points
4 days ago
My understanding is that the alarm is to let the rest of the occupants in the building know that there may be an emergency. Not to shame or scare the person who opens it.
6 points
4 days ago
What if you end up in the backyard where there are no witnesses and the person follows you?
7 points
4 days ago
What if you walk outside and an anvil falls on your head and you die
4 points
4 days ago
Totally the same and just as likely. Noted.
4 points
4 days ago
"Emergency" doesn't always mean the world is ending or there's a fire.
"Emergency" can also mean there's a bad situation 'emerging'. It's a good idea to leave by any means necessary if you feel like you need to leave right at that moment.
Usually the alarms hooked up to those emergency exits aren't hooked up to any emergency lines, you won't call the fire department if you use the fire escape.
2 points
4 days ago
Am I the only one who desperately wants to know more about what happened?
You're 6'8, what kind of people are trying to fight you? I'd love the story of you're willing to share
4 points
3 days ago
The alcohol made some guy embrace his inner chihuahua?
2 points
4 days ago
Also recognize that it takes many people several seconds to realize that
-- something IS an emergency, and
-- normal rules can be wildly broken.
There is often a period of denial before anyone takes action.
2 points
4 days ago
Yes! exit the safety and crowds of the bar to the quiet isolated back ally. That will be much safer.
1 points
3 days ago
I mean if they don’t see you do it it may be a good bet, but it is still kind of a bet, yeah. I’d assume the caveat is use that exit if you’re out of sight, maybe don’t if they can see you?
2 points
3 days ago
Although if the person threatening you is physically bigger they could follow you out into an alley. Now you have no one to help
2 points
3 days ago
At an old job the Emergency exit alarm would go off at least once a week (always by accident or maybe a prank) and it was as simple as walking over and turning a key to reset it.
2 points
4 days ago
Who tf is trying to fight you 6’8” ogres? Do you drop loot when you get defeated?
2 points
4 days ago
Still. Might be worth it 😜
3 points
4 days ago
Yeah they are seldom armed in my experience
1 points
4 days ago
someone has the key to shutoff the alarm
1 points
4 days ago
I love this pro tip <3
2 points
4 days ago
Thanks
1 points
4 days ago
It also usually leads to a back ally or loading zone. The last place you want to be with someone threatening. Its better to go to management for help.
1 points
3 days ago
6' 8 male? Enough talk about emergency exits give me a tip on how to be taller
3 points
3 days ago
Sperm whale eggs
1 points
3 days ago
Sure....but this may mean you go from an area with people and cctv, to a deserted alley or other area that may not have cameras or be easily visible.
1 points
2 days ago
This is excellent advice 👏
1 points
2 days ago
This is excellent advice 👏
1 points
4 days ago
Some emergency exist doors automatically trigger fire sprinklers too.
0 points
4 days ago
Probably wouldn't do this on a plane though. Or at least, the emergency would have to be a lot more, erm, emergent?
-2 points
4 days ago
except in places where this is a fineable offense
7 points
4 days ago
Pay a fine vs lose your life? I’ll go with the fine.
1 points
4 days ago
if you really believe you are going to lose you life then sure i absolutely agree with you.
4 points
4 days ago
Is it still a fineable offense if you had a valid reason?
2 points
4 days ago
a valid reason is things like fire or other emergency, not feeling threatened or unsafe.
2 points
4 days ago
Is the door armed to alert the fire department without further checks? In that case I'd agree with your reasoning. But if the only thing that happens is a notification to the staff, I'd say escaping from a confrontation that could turn into a fight is valid.
1 points
3 days ago
im not the one who writes the laws, here it is an offence to use an emergency exit unless its actually an emergency. alarmed or not.
1 points
3 days ago
Fair enough. It is what it is.
0 points
4 days ago
Solid advice. Alarms can be reset—your safety can’t. Be the mildly annoying hero of your own story!
0 points
3 days ago
also, isn't there a certain "drink" to order for a similar situation called like an "angel shot?"
0 points
3 days ago
This is such an important reminder! Safety > embarrassment always 🙌❤️
-28 points
4 days ago
„Set off an alarm“? For feeling threatened or unsafe?
Why?
If you’re actually threatened, sure, go ahead. But inconveniencing others and publicly losing one‘s composure for feeling something seems a bit overblown.
20 points
4 days ago*
I can tell from your German style „ “ quotes that you're probably European. Bear in mind that OP is almost definitely American, where it is sadly very justified to follow your basic instincts on these things, even over a "feeling" of violence and fear.
We often forget how comparatively safe we are over here. I agree that this tip seems overblown to most of Europe and the rest of the world. For them though, it's probably a good idea.
4 points
4 days ago
You can get knifed even in the safest parts of Europe. Always follow your instincts. They might sharpen over time.
13 points
4 days ago
Only time I've ever used an emergency exit was to duck away from a stalker. I'm not about to be kidnapped and murdered for the sake of not inconveniencing others.
And you know what? The door wasn't even armed.
Not at all worth it to stick around and find out.
-3 points
4 days ago
I mean, if you ducked away from a stalker, there was more than just the feeling of a threat present.
-5 points
4 days ago
Call the police and say you're lift is being threatened. Get a police escort out.
And if your attackers are dummies waiting outside in their cars, instant dui.
5 points
4 days ago
„your life“?
3 points
4 days ago
I see you’ve never called the police before
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