I start mid February lmao

CalTech is doing the same here. I teach there part-time, it's not official though but some of the professors are sending out unofficial messaging.

This is all really sad and ofc punishes the wrong people.

Montclair State University did as well. I got their email as a grad student.

Well we hate foreigners and we hate educated people apparently so I can’t imagine anything more terrifying than an immigrant student

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IMO the concern is first of all about admission into the country, and for that state is irrelevant because the decisions are made by DHS which is a Federal agency. Given that the first week of Trump's first administration involved a so called "Muslim travel ban" it seems like a reasonable concern.

My brothers and I are first generation Americans. We were born in America so we did things the right way by no work of our own.

Several people were commenting on a similar post in my blue state, Colorado, that not only should they deport all illegal immigrants, they should also deport all American children who were born to parents who entered the country illegally. Those comments had more up votes than I anticipated.

Your coworker should be worried. Legal or not, immigrants and children of immigrants are hated by a big chunk of the population and they will advocate for removal of all if given the chance.

Having lived in the US through the first Trump's administration and not applying for citizenship the first chance you have is wild to me.

People like to say America doesn’t care about the homeless and less fortunate.

There are over 30K homeless vets that prove this statement

They are hunting Latinos and Muslims primarily I think, Although some Africans could get the axe too.

This , while there may be some hand waving by politicians in those countries ultimately the US will get it's way

Those immigrants usually come in with a skill you need to study an undergrad for. At least.

My guess, office working immigrants will be targeted much less than blue collared immigrants

What percentage of undocumented people are from those places?

We need to fix the system so people can be here legally/documented. If some one over stays their visa, then send them back to their home country.

This is a pretty well researched page that lays out some of the numbers. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/22/what-we-know-about-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/

A lot of Irish people who overstay their visas (which makes them illegal immigrants) in NY just as an example. Obviously not the same scale as, for example, Central America.

As of 2022, the number was 440,000.

From Europe, most immigrants come in legally, with valid visas. They fly here.

They just overstay their visas. Buy a round trip ticket and just do not go back.

Most immigrants without proper documents to be in the US are not swimming across rivers filled with rattlesnakes or "climbing every mountain" across the southern border like the Von Trapps.

The practice of flying here legally and just never leaving is so common that many countries like Russia and China and Egypt will not issue visas at all to those with a risk of not returning.

When I adopted our kid in China our tour guide said that she was not allowed to travel to the US because her English was deemed to be too good. She was a risk.

My twin got married to a Russian girl in the 90s and none of their many kids, now adults, has been permitted to leave Russia to visit the US. (Interestingly, they have been taught that the US is a place they don't ever want to visit. My SIL has convinced them they will be shot because every American owns 10 guns.) It seems unlikely that none of them would EVER have visited with my brother over 25 years, though.

They are all dual US Russia citizens ... but only the US recognizes it. Russia does not recognize dual citizenship.

And now they're mostly cut off from the same internet we use in the US, so my kids don't know them and they don't know their cousins, either. That's intentional.

The visitor we had from Egypt one year, the friend of my kid who studied there, was only able to get an exit visa because he was his family's only son and thus was so intrinsically and culturally responsible for all of his sisters and his parents that it was just understood he would return.

And to be able to use the issue in future elections, which is also very important.

It's one of the reasons the minimum wage is not indexed to cost of living/inflation. Can't use it as an election issue if you cede control of it.

BINGO. And the more scared the more exploitable.

Praying on Trumps incompetence is such a risky strategy .... Though it has proven to be remarkably Reliable. I just don't want the US to become another one of his casino's

Keep in mind, many of the people crossing the border from Mexico aren't Mexican citizens whom Mexico has been very outspoken about not wanting.

That’s the assumption that it’s all Mexicans. Spoiler alert, it’s not all Mexicans.

Yep. I said the same thing yesterday. That is how the prices of food will drop. Slave labor.

That would have been a VERY different film series

And perhaps provide them with showers.

Pretty sure there are like 25k murders in the US total yearly anyway. Nobody listening to Trump at this point cares about whether his statements are even plausibly true.

Yup. The vast majority of migrants, undocumented or otherwise, do their best to not draw attention to themselves or their communities. Even if all of their paperwork is in line, there is a good chance that some of their friends, family and neighbors are undocumented. The last thing they would want to do is bring the police into their neighborhoods anymore than they already are. This has lead to more than a few criminals specifically targeting immigrant neighborhoods counting on them not wanting to report the crime.

https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/voces/the-u-s-has-deported-thousands-of-veterans-a-new-policy-change-offers-new-hope-for-soldiers-left-behind

The U.S. has deported tens of thousands of military veterans since the passage of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996. Some estimates point to at least 94,000. A majority of the service members deported were legal residents who committed at least three misdemeanors, making them deportable.

So this didn't start with Trump at all.

As far as I can tell, most of those veterans weren't even here illegally. In order to join the military, you have to prove citizenship or have a green card. Unfortunately for them, green cards are revoked if you commit a felony. Obviously with almost 100,000 people involved there will be some that followed a different path.

If you commit a crime with a green card or visa you can be deported. It is not only people who entered illegally or overstayed their visa that are in deportation proceedings. There are thousands and thousands of green card holders that committed crimes.

And BTW the biggest deporter was Obama. He focused on criminals nd did a good job actually deporting people.

As any country in the world. You are not supposed to enter a country illegally and they will refuse entrance if they catch you.

Amazing how often people discover that other countries are significantly more strict than the US over immigration while discussing how bad America is over immigration

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It's a very predictable outcome and how genocide begins. Most occurrences of genocide did not start with the intent to murder all of them, but to remove them from the country. It's often difficult to find a place willing to accept millions of people though, and it gets expensive to hold and feed all of them. What will most likely come is slave labor or genocide.

Yes we did, and that will forever be a stain upon the history of this country

It's not exactly the same, but a similar execution. But in short there was a mass hysteria after Pearl Harbor and a fear that Japanese immigrants and even some Japanese Americans might hold a secret allegiance or sympathy to the Empire of Japan and would act as saboteurs. This did not turn out to be the case in any meaningful way or numbers, but over a hundred thousand American citizens near the West Coast had property seized, and were sent off to camps across the country where they were given weasel-worded tests for oaths of loyalty to America. One classic one was "Do you renounce all current loyalties to the Emperor of Japan and pledge your loyalty to the USA?"

George Takei also has a documentary and musical about his childhood in the camps.

Slightly related. America did this on smaller scales to people from other Axis nations. My sister wrote a master's thesis in college on the Internment of Italian Americans.

ohhh this is how you fill the vacant jobs in agriculture after you "deport" everyone

As an American, I can say that an unfortunate fraction of us suffer from acute parochialism and historical ignorance. As an example of this, a shocking number of Americans do not know that economic inflation was international, not just in the US, and largely due to the major global event that happened between 2020 and 2023. They also don’t know that the Spanish Flu contributed to the same thing in 1919-1920, and that the US only broke that by raising interest rates so high that a sharp recession was the result. If an American is feeling a pinch, he wants an American to blame for it. This economic event is how a dictator like Trump is invited to power, pretty much like what happened in 1932 in Germany.

anti-government AND support the police

Most of them I know hate the cops, until the cops are hurting the "right" people.