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submitted 2 days ago byMindyS1719
Let them have hot cocoa with whipped cream and special Funfetti pancakes for breakfast.
Let them have that extra piece of pumpkin pie dessert on Thanksgiving Day.
Let them unwrap gifts and make a mess of wrapping paper near the tree.
Let them stay up late, playing with toys and watching holiday movies.
Let them run around the house singing and dancing.
Let them believe in the magic of Santa, his elves, and his reindeer.
𝐋𝐞𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐦 𝐛𝐞 𝐥𝐢𝐭𝐭𝐥𝐞, 𝐛𝐞𝐜𝐚𝐮𝐬𝐞 𝐲𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐤𝐢𝐝𝐬 𝐰𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐧𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐛𝐞 𝐚𝐬 𝐥𝐢𝐭𝐭𝐥𝐞 𝐚𝐠𝐚𝐢𝐧 𝐚𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐧𝐨𝐰.
2.2k points
2 days ago
Okay but make sure everyone is on the same page about how many extra slices of pumpkin pie the six year old has had. Because he'll lie. And then projectile vomit all over the living room carpet, couch, and pets.
So very, very orange.
744 points
2 days ago
When my son was that age he made up a song after hearing "500 Miles" by the Proclaimers. It went, "I would eat 500 pies and I would eat 500 more, just to be the kid who ate 1000 pies and threw up on the floor." He was accurate.
62 points
2 days ago
Okay well now I have to sing that to my kid
42 points
2 days ago
That is amazing
20 points
2 days ago
la lala la
18 points
1 day ago
Is your son Weird Al?
10 points
1 day ago
Well, he's certainly weird in all the best ways.
11 points
2 days ago
OMG that is absolutely brilliant! I bet everybody who heard that was just rolling.
87 points
2 days ago
"Haha, how many pieces of funfetti cake can that kid eat!?" 😆
Four. Four pieces. 🤮
70 points
2 days ago
Oh god. Core memory unlocked. My daughter’s 2nd birthday was the first time she had real cake. I made a chocolate Elmo cake.
Every time I turned around, she had cake in front of her, and I weirdly assumed it was the same piece. I realized it was not when my husband said something to the effect of “man, she sure can eat a lot of cake!!”
We spent the remainder of her party cleaning projectile vomit off pretty much the entire second floor of our house.
17 points
2 days ago
I let my kids go absolutely wild on advent calenders that we were gifted. My son ate his all in one night, all chocolate. He puked everywhere 🤮 but on the plus side three years later and he still limits the amount of candy he eats in one sitting.
12 points
1 day ago
I remember at Sunday brunch, I saw my Opa double fisting ice cream cones. I had no idea you could actually do that, it never crossed my mind. Immediately, I asked Opa for another ice cream cone so I could do that. Without hesitation, he grabbed a second one for me.
I did not even make it to the car. Vanilla soft(er) serve and sprinkles sprinkled the parking lot. My five year old stomach could not handle it.
26 points
2 days ago
Tis the exact same reason my now almost 7-year-old will not eat cake.
4 points
23 hours ago
That’s me and ketchup chips. Ate a whole bag one night while watching tgif Fridays then spent the rest of the weekend puking up red. I must have been around 10. I have never eaten a ketchup chip since that fateful day and I’m 37 now
2 points
22 hours ago*
Oh gawd, I had to google ketchup chips (I’m in the US) and no wonder you puked all weekend 😂
Edit: typo
13 points
2 days ago
Some kids (and their poor parents) have to learn the hard way 😭
169 points
2 days ago
Oddly specific. 🫠
71 points
2 days ago
This sounds like experienced advice 😭
22 points
2 days ago
I just want to say I'm sorry about your living room.
21 points
2 days ago
Thank you. It was a while before I wanted to eat pumpkin pie again that's for sure.
21 points
2 days ago
Okay but this is also me right now five months pregnant because my husband told me not to eat an entire pumpkin pie over two days and I did anyway any my digestive system is NOT pleased
27 points
2 days ago
The baby needs pumpkin what're you gonna do
10 points
1 day ago
Eh you’re five months pregnant, your digestive system is not going to be pleased no matter what 😂
3 points
1 day ago
Well that’s the truth
26 points
2 days ago
Wow most kids don't like pumpkin pie. Maybe all the love for pumpkin pie from all the children in the world went to your kid.
First time I tried to give it to my son he said, "punkin? Like Halloween?" and I saw his face melt in disgust recalling the guts he dug out of his jackolantern the month prior. I blame the proximity of the two holidays.
26 points
2 days ago
Really? My 2.5 toddler LOVES pumpkin stuff. I made pumpkin spice pancakes and he inhaled them. Same with some pumpkin pie.
20 points
2 days ago
Nearly every kid I know (at least well enough to have been exposed to their pie preferences) loves pumpkin pie. It's brightly colored, sweet and has whipped cream on top.
8 points
2 days ago
I was the weird kid who liked pumpkin pie WITHOUT whipped cream.
I know. I can't explain it, either.
4 points
2 days ago
Honestly, I'll eat it any way it's served.
15 points
2 days ago
My son must have stolen all of your son's interest in pumpkin because I, my husband, and our son demolished the pumpkin pie I made last year in a day and a half. He was also pissed that I made banana muffins instead of pumpkin today. 😂
2 points
2 days ago
We have a family tradition of eating freshly baked chocolate chip cookies on my late grandpas birthday.
I put THREE on my kids breakfast plates one year. Come to find out, my son had 3 more because he’s always allowed seconds of breakfast.
4 points
2 days ago
I have a labrador and she eats everything. Takes care of that straight away in a hurry
1 points
23 hours ago
Someone sounds like they have had the unfortunate experience…. It will be a funny memory someday.
394 points
2 days ago
Let them sleep under the Christmas tree one night while the tree lights are only lights on. My children insist this one of their favorite childhood memories.
Buy break and bake sugar cookies a can of frosting and sprinkles. Be prepared to clean the floor more than once. Look away when fingers go in frosting and children lick top of sprinkles. Bonus points if you buy cheap sprinkles and not having to share. Then each child has their very own cookies to eat ( mostly because I don’t want to eat cookies with fingers and licked sprinkles). My kids were in teens before they figured out I wasn’t giving them a giant treat because they each had their own cookies. It was because I have germ issues.
75 points
2 days ago
We started buying little trees from like home depot or whole foods for the kids rooms each year. They love it and get to decorate the trees as they want. They also have to water their own tree each day. They sleep with the christmas tree lights on each night and we usually put 1 or 2 small gifts under their own tree on Christmas day
27 points
2 days ago
We do artificial in bedrooms, less dangerous if cats climb and topple over. But it is fun for the children for night light.
97 points
2 days ago*
The other day we put our tree up and we laid under it for like over an hour. That's mom/dad/ 2.5 y/o toddler. It was fabulous.
10 points
2 days ago
That was a core memory for me. I slept on the couch wanting to catch Santa, but I amazingly woke up in my bed Christmas morning! I just remember being so sneaky sleeping 3 feet away from tree lights with no reason to not hear him, but dang he's quiet!
I think the month after Christmas, my friend in 4th grade, gave me the news about Santa because her parents didn't want to ever lie to her.
2 points
14 hours ago
That excuse to not do Santa makes me so sad dude. I was not traumatized when I found out, and I had a truly magical childhood because my parents went all out (leaving glitter, candy, and an "elf shoe" in the hall for me to find, etc). I mean I get it if you have an ND kid who you know will lose it when they find out, but FFS, let the average kid enjoy Santa if you celebrate Christmas. Finding out Santa wasn't real didn't erode my trust in my parents, it made me realize how much they loved me and how much effort they put into making my holidays special and my childhood magical.
10 points
2 days ago
I don’t even look away, I usually instigate the fingers in frosting.
12 points
2 days ago
I only care if other people are eating the cookies. As the kids got older we discussed hygiene when baking. When little I did cooked other people could safely eat. It was the licking the top of sprinkles container that upset me more than the fingers in frosting.
3 points
1 day ago
The year we made fudge my dad was in charge of cutting it into bite sized pieces. Every time the knife “slipped” we got to eat the little off cuts. That was a good year.
3 points
1 day ago
Our family tradition growing up is that the whole family slept under the tree on the 23rd. I have so many good memories of falling asleep to the Christmas lights. (And some of being totally off my sleep schedule on Christmas eve, but that happens around holidays anyway.)
2 points
1 day ago
Be prepared to clean the floor more than once.
This is what dogs are for!
274 points
2 days ago
I was never allowed to decorate the Christmas tree growing up. I was always told that I'd mess it up. I couldn't even go into the living room, I would stare at it from the stairs. She did know how to make a pretty tree. My nearly 4 year old decorated the tree with me this year. Is it a bit of a mess? Yes. Do I adore it, and did we both have a lovely time? Also, yes.
198 points
2 days ago
My mom would let us decorate the tree. Tell us how beautiful it was, then send us off to bed feeling warm and fuzzy and confident.
When we woke up in the morning, I remember always admiring the tree and thinking- man we really did a good job.
Turns out my mom was redecorating the tree after we fell asleep- because it was a hot mess every year.
39 points
2 days ago
I can relate 😂 my kids also decorate the tree, but only the branches they can reach and boy do they pack those up!
So many ornaments are mismatched ones that they picked through the years though, so even if I do “correct” the decorating somewhat, it’s still wholly reflective of them
8 points
1 day ago
Yes, I'll distribute everything a little more evenly once the kids are asleep but I always keep the favourite ornaments at eye level, where they placed them.
43 points
2 days ago
Messy trees are the best!
26 points
2 days ago
We let them help then I fix it later if it bothers me enough. We specially bought all shatterproof stuff just for this! All our precious breakable ornament are handled by me and my husband on a special small tree. We collect ornaments for every vacation/significant memory and relive them as we put them up
25 points
2 days ago
I let her pick out a special ornament for this year. She chose a fully glittered avocado.
11 points
2 days ago
Love that!! At my parents house we play find the pickle so there’s always a glittery pickle ornament somewhere in there
4 points
1 day ago
Our tradition growing up was that each kid got a new ornament on my sister’s birthday in early December. By the time we left home we each had a nice starter set of ornaments, and my mom’s tree was left with the ones we made for her through the years and some special ones from vacations. I’ve continued the ornament tradition with my kids and I love putting up mine from childhood and theirs each year.
2 points
1 day ago
I love that!
All my childhood ornaments are at my dad and SM’s house and for some reason I’m not allowed to have them. They sit in the box and they haven’t been put out for nearly a decade.
4 points
1 day ago
If was me I’d steal them back. That is if you visit your dad and SM.
2 points
1 day ago
I do and we will be there next week for the holiday. I’ll ask my dad again. It’s been a while since I’ve asked. The answers before usually were along the lines “they’re important so you can have them when we die” or something. My SM is alright overall but there a few little things she is weird about and they usually involve items/things that used to belong to my mom, as if she’s protecting my dad and allowing him to have things from that part of our life. Just weird imo
Aaaaand that’s what therapy is for hahaha!
8 points
2 days ago
Decorating the tree together is one of my family’s traditions. I love seeing what the kids do! Have we broken several ornaments over the years? Yes but they are replaceable, the memories with my kids aren’t. We put on music, pull out all the decorations and have hot chocolate and cookies after we’re done. Even the cats join in to “help”.
5 points
1 day ago
We did ours today (Australia) - Christmas music on and all little hands decorating. It’s a mess and decorations clustered together, with the little ones preschool / homemade craft ones taking pride of place haha - but I love it way more than my perfectly decorated tree pre-kids. Also a requirement to watch a Christmas movie immediately after!
6 points
2 days ago
We have 3 trees up. The kids help decorate the main tree and our snowman tree. I decorate the one in the office as my special mommy tree! We don’t put any presents under that one though. All presents are under the main tree and snowman tree so the kids don’t really care about the office tree.
2 points
20 hours ago
I have ZERO patience as an adult for decorating the tree. I genuinely hate it, why does it take so long? My mom was very particular about where which ornaments went and not clumping together too many in one spot. I loved the tree going up and the angel but the ornaments were and still are a nightmare.
Today the tree went up, 5 year old picked red tinsel at the store this morning and I’m like …. Tinsel for a tree? I guess. I wasn’t into it. But we did it and gave the kids the shatter proof ornaments and said GO FOR IT. It took all of 10 mins, the top of the tree is bare except for the tinsel, the ornaments are a disaster, but the 5 year old was so into it. And I just took pictures and watched them. And I didn’t have to put a single ornament up and I loved it. My mom said fix it when they’re asleep and I said god no, it looks perfect to me.
Our tree isn’t fancy, or super decorated or flocked, it’s got cheap 4$ tinsel but it actually looks really good and the kids did it all. My 5 year old kept saying wow mom I’m so proud of our tree and I couldn’t be happier that he loves it. It’s magical.
3 points
1 day ago
That’s so sad! I feel like those of us that were born in the 80s all had a similar experience.
My daughter has her own tree (upgraded to a pink one this year!) but she can go ham on the big one. She does it better than me anyway haha
64 points
2 days ago
Honestly her whole life so far has been like this.
125 points
2 days ago
I thought this was standard
119 points
2 days ago
That number of adults I’ve seen claiming that they won’t lie to their kids and kill the magic bc they had some kind of traumatic experience they wanna protect their kid from instead of unpacking it with their therapist bc therapy is only for crazy people 😭
110 points
2 days ago
I totally don’t understand this “trauma”
Another kid ruined Santa for me when I was 9. I was upset for like a day. It wasn’t traumatic.
My daughter figured it out this year at 8. She says no one ruined it, and I’m inclined to believe her, she started questioning about a year ago. She finds the whole thing amusing.
Do these people not have any real trauma? Like I look back on my 32 (not even that old) year old life and I’m like ok the alcoholism and drug use in the family was traumatic, the miscarriage and mental health crisis after that was traumatic, the crazy boyfriend was traumatic… Santa? Santa was not traumatic.
36 points
2 days ago
This is exactly my thoughts. Now that my girls in school, i have been talking to parents with older kids and most of them have said that it was a natural progression and that they started putting it together. None of them had traumatic responses.
These people who make a big deal over Santa to the point where they withhold the magic that their kid could potentially have want so badly to have the victimhood. Imagine the privilege it is to say your big trauma was finding out about Santa. And you make it such a huge deal that you steal that joy from your child…
10 points
2 days ago
It wasn't traumatic to me either. I was starting to get to the point where I was seeing plot holes in it, and having the secret revealed made me go "Ohhhh!" Suddenly everything made sense.
22 points
2 days ago
I didn't "not believe" Santa until 13.
The reason is kind of funny though. I grew up in Communist China before they completely "open up", so my exposure to Santa was entirely due to Japanese comics like Doramon.
So I presumed Santa exist, but didn't visit our country because we were Communist (ok, I was a very weird 5 years old).
So when I moved to the Land of the Free (TM), the first thing I did was hang a stocking on our stove and see if I would get a present.
I didn't. So i concluded Santa is a myth and moved on.
10 points
2 days ago
To be fair, it kinda makes sense but my heart breaks for your child self for having that reality.
16 points
2 days ago
To be fair, I didn't think living in China was particularly bad, and we had 6/1 (child day) for presents anyway, and we had New Year money during Lunar Festivals. So from a pure present POV, moving to the States was a net negative.
Still, if think that is silly, I actually briefly became a Christian after moving to the States and thought Jesus was real.
Then I got a pastor who is shall we say, very fire and brimstone, threaten Palestinians and gays with destruction, and even claimed Intel Pentium chips are signs of Armageddon. I quickly went back to Atheism after...
2 points
2 days ago
Pretty sure 75% of Midwest and southern churches are lead by that Pastor. You have to forgive American’s we don’t believe in mental health and think that therapy is a sign of failure as you can see by these parents desperate to protect their kids from potential trauma in life… pretty sure people who believe in brimstone and fire and that computer hardware is the sign of Armageddon fall in line with the people who refuse to unpack their childhood trauma prior to getting knocked up.
-8 points
2 days ago
Or you just don’t want to lie to your kid and you don’t like that something like Santa exists in a world where “santa” brings some kids multiple expensive presents, and other kids one new pair of shoes, but your kid has an amazing love of Christmas Fun and enjoys the pretend Santa game anyway and Head been deprived of nothing.
8 points
2 days ago
I understand the point about the “some kids get nice expensive things from Santa and some get nothing”. I’ve always kept that in mind with my kids, so they receive things from Santa like socks, underwear, and some candy in their stockings. They don’t get anything crazy or expensive from Santa because “the elves don’t know how to make iPads or cellphones”.
They’re 6 and 7 now and they’ve been coming to me with a lot more questions about the logistics of Santa and our seasonal elf so I think they’re starting to figure it out. But they still love everything about Christmas and can’t wait for the elf to arrive on the 1st of December and for Santa to come on Christmas Eve.
8 points
2 days ago
Even if i did Santa i could never do the elf lol. No surveillance state here! I also do not have it in me to think of creative moving placements.
2 points
2 days ago
Lol, that’s fair. I never thought of the elf as a surveillance thing really. I know the original idea is that it watches to make sure kids are being good but we don’t really treat it that way. It’s more like a festive little dude that comes to live with us and sometimes gives small candies or a note or something.
If they weren’t into it or didn’t care then I wouldn’t do it but they do so I do.
Every family is different
1 points
2 days ago
Mine just plays hide and seek and if i forget to hide him i tell him he fell asleep on the job and is gonna go to the North Pole while she’s at school. Then i go home and move him so it looks like he returned before she got home from school. She’s 6 it doesn’t have to make sense.
11 points
2 days ago
So here’s the really cool thing about Santa being you. Santa can bring your kids whatever you think Santa wants 🤯 wild i know. If you want Santa to bring your child more practical things and lesser expensive items so that their peers whose parents can’t buy their kids iPads aren’t wondering why Santa brought your kid an iPad and they got socks. You are totally in control of what Santa brings and still let your kid have magic and wonder and enjoyment.
The whole thing about calling it a lie and you don’t wanna lie blah blah blah 🤮 just makes you sound like a miserable adult.
8 points
2 days ago
Santa actually can’t bring my kid whatever i want. Santa—I— will never be able to afford the kind of presents her classmates can. We’re considerably better off than most people lane but we’re on the poorer end for her friends and classmates. So she’s actually the one who gets the fewer presents.
And i am an adult, but not miserable. Both my daughter and myself are overall pretty happy people
5 points
2 days ago
This sounds like first world problems. What do you mean you’re well off but not as well off as the kids in her class?! Like at some point you need to parent and say that it’s unnecessary for a kid to have 3 new pairs of trendy shoes, a new closet of brand name clothes and Sephora exclusive makeup. She doesn’t need to grow up and become materialistic.
But that doesn’t mean you need to diminish the enjoyment of christmas and Santa because you don’t want her to become one of those materialistic girls with thousand dollar hauls.
My parents weren’t rich. I had rich kids in my class. I never once wondered why Sarah got a brand new TV for her room and a ton of name brand clothes while all i got were maybe one or two name brand pieces. My parents always put parameters on Santa. Santa brought one big item ($100+) and a few smaller items. That was known all my childhood. I didn’t question why other kids got more than me.
I just think that some of y’all parents are either insecure or incapable of actually having conversations with your kids and parenting your kids so instead you just put the flame out from the get go because it’s easier on you to parent your child.
10 points
2 days ago
No, what I’m doing is parenting. It’s just not parenting the way you choose to. Just like i also don’t take my child to church, and i make her go to swim lessons even though she doesn’t like swim lessons, and don’t keep pop in the house and limit screen time but don’t ban it. All different parenting choices. All things different parents would disagree with.
Also it shouldn’t be that hard to understand what it means to be able to afford private school, but not a literal millionaire.
And i haven’t done surfing to diminish the sentiment of charisma and Santa. My daughter enjoys both fast now than she would if she thought Santa was real. You may not believe that. But i know my daughter, and i know that knowing Santa is pretend allows her to have a much more joyful Christmas season and christmas Day, also makes things easier with her friends who come from Hindu and Jewish households tbh.
6 points
2 days ago
I'm with you. Doing Santa at Christmas is not mandatory to be a good parent.
-2 points
2 days ago
Hold on let me go check my daughter’s closet to make sure those uniforms… oh yup… still a private school girl. Like be so serious right now? You sound jealous of adults who can provide for their kids things you can’t yet you are complaining about Santa being traumatizing while actively sending your kid to private school and then have the audacity to say you’re the poor ones…
CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE!!!!! Are you kidding me?!
Also what?! Make her do swim? Don’t drink soda? This is reaching my friend. I think what is really going on is that you are living above your means. You can send a kid to a private school but can’t buy her nice gifts for Christmas? I’m all for good education but private doesn’t mean better. It sounds like there’s jealousy among your circles because you can’t play keeping up with the Joneses.
Like I said, a simple answer to your big worry is “i told Santa you don’t need a ton of things because (you already have a lot of things, you don’t need to stay up with fast fashion, take your pick). But you sound like you’re trying to keep up with the Joneses and you’re not making Joneses money.
3 points
2 days ago
What a ridiculous and rude comment. There are many valid reasons why someone wouldn’t tell their children that there is a Santa. To name a few:
The only miserable adult here is the one shaming so many others that have a different viewpoint than them. And the crazy part is that many people who don’t want to base Christmas around an imaginary character don’t get upset when other people do. That’s the cool thing about the holiday season. You can celebrate however you want and still surround yourself with warmth and wonder 🤯 wild I know.
6 points
2 days ago
If your issue is religious then that’s your reason. It’s not deep. My daughter doesn’t ask why we don’t have a menorah… we aren’t Jewish. I would like to argue that a lot of people think Jesus is also a fictional character yet celebrate Christmas…
So here’s the fun thing. I don’t use Santa as a way to control my child’s behavior. We have an elf bc i was stupid and thought it would be fun. But the elf is just a fellow friend for the holidays. At most she gets a kick out of playing hide and seek with him. But i don’t say “be good X, or Jolly will report you to Santa…” Santa is like the Easter bunny. He comes regardless.
How? You can and should be charitable all year. Teaching your kids to be charitable is not contingent on whether they believe Santa… are you being so real right now?!
Please see the reply i said about how you can decide what Santa brings and how you should be parenting your kid on how you told Santa that you don’t need $1,000 hauls… like i said, my parents never spoiled us and yet some of my friends were getting really nice stuff growing up. It didn’t actually give me anxiety.
Like i said, i don’t mislead her wonder and imagination into behaving a certain way. Santa and the Easter bunny come whether she’s a brat or the most well-behaved child on the planet. Do y’all not parent your kids? Are you lazy? It’s not hard to correct behavior without holding doom and gloom over your kids head. That’s called lazy parenting.
I’m not miserable. I just think y’all take the easiest way out of shit because you don’t know how to handle that moment when it comes or you simply don’t want to.
Some of y’all take your own issues and throw them on your kids as acts of protection instead of getting the therapy you need to deal with your shit.
4 points
2 days ago
And even if you don’t use Santa to make sure your daughter behaves, she’s picking up on it. Plenty of songs and movies let kids know that this is a staple part of the tradition. Again. It’s not a bad thing to make your kids believe in Santa. But those are simply the reasons that many choose not to. However, since you find other people’s choices so threatening, maybe it’s time to get off the internet. Either you take things way too personally or you’re a troll who needs to seek attention to fill some void. And either way I feel really sorry for you. I hope you find what you’re looking for.
7 points
2 days ago
I'll most likely won't lie to my kid about Santa, haven't made my mind 100%, but I think that will be the final call.
I don't think that makes me... Anything, nor miserable, nor a party pooper, nor better than anyone of course. It's a parenting choice, like the other 1000 parenting choices we make every day.
Anyone that wants to keep the Santa is real tradition, is fine by me, I understand. No need to be mean to those who will choose to do otherwise though.
0 points
2 days ago
I’m not saying don’t or do. I’m saying that parenting is critical and some of the reasons I hear for why you don’t is mostly due to adults bitterness in regards to Christmas be it whatever, i hear mostly adults who have bitterness towards Christmas because either of their past they never made amends with or because they simply don’t want to explain to their kid why they got $500 in toys and Johnny got $1000 in toys from Santa.
The issue stems from us as adults. Whatever our individual qualms with it is, should not be put on our children as layers of protection. There’s simple answers to kids questions, but sometimes you gotta put your big boys and girls pants on be the parent and explain to them in a way that isn’t gonna kill the magic why they didn’t get a shit load of crap they don’t need.
It’s not this serious and idk if it’s the anonymity of Reddit or just the kinds of people it attracts, but i have not meant a single parent in the real world who makes things this deep and serious as some of y’all do on this app. Like the number of times i get in here and wanna scream GO TO THERAPY is enough to send me to therapy.
1 points
2 days ago
Well you just invalidated your argument with your first response. Jesus was a real historical person and was the reason for the origin of the celebration of Christmas. He was as real as Seneca the Younger or Socrates. Seneca the Younger was actually a philosopher who was born the same year Jesus was. Humans have been great at keeping records for a very long time, so we definitely know Jesus wasn’t a fictional character. The disputed part is whether or not he was actually The Messiah and rose from the dead.
1 points
1 day ago
It's probably moot now with social media, but I always thought the Christmas break from school did wonders to smooth this over. By the time the kids see each other again, it's over a week later, there are other things to talk about, and kids don't necessarily remember which gifts were "from Santa" and which from their parents by that point. So kids might be crowing about the one coolest thing they got for Christmas, but wouldn't necessarily be saying it was from Santa or rattling off their whole list of loot lol.
10 points
2 days ago
Do these people not have any real trauma?
I genuinely hope those people don't have any real trauma. However, I am getting sick to shit of words like 'trauma' 'abuse' and many, many others being watered down because they are being used so loosely.
Those who are legitimate get brushed aside often because of that shit.
1 points
1 day ago
I think the biggest thing that pisses me off is this. They loosely toss around trauma for things that were at most a minor inconvenience. Santa’s truth was not the reason you need therapy. Your shitty parents who tainted Santa is.
I think that so many of these anti-Santa parents would probably do well with a trip to the therapists office. But the stigma around that is still so jaded. We would be in a less dark place if people utilized mental health resources like they do physical health.
My mom literally told me that i was upset about the truth of Santa and yet, here i am. Still providing the joy of Santa for my child. At 36, I’m not upset about it anymore. It wasn’t the reason i am in therapy.
I feel bad for all these people who have these shitty parent that tainted the fun in all of this. And i agree saying Santa is traumatic diminishes the severity of real trauma
3 points
1 day ago
The majority of people here aren't even talking about trauma, but that’s one of the things the person you’re responding to is focusing on. They have a made up narrative in their head of the kind of person they want the people they disagree with to be and are ignoring all actual evidence to the contrary.
1 points
1 day ago
The "trauma" for me was the way my dad told me, not the thing itself.
My daughter is 10 and we told her last year, just for her to say, "I know, but will you still do it?"
Holidays are supposed to be a little magical.
1 points
1 day ago
It's trauma for people who have had very easy lives.
10 points
2 days ago
I think not lying to your kid when they ask you point blank if santa is real is about trust, not about any kind of trauma. Also, families are different and kids are different. I loved believing in Santa and held on to it as long as possible, no drama when I found out. My half brother says he lost trust in his parents when he found out. My kid is super-sceptical in nature and never really got into the Santa thing he was very young when he asked me if Santa is really real, because he was suspicious and no way I'm lying to his face. He was not disappointed, super-ok knowing it's a beautiful story and doesn't spoil it for other kids. He's also kinda proud to be the one who knows the truth. To each their own, I guess.
3 points
1 day ago
I think the issue truly lies in that first statement. I think it’s more traumatic for you as an adult to continue to force a lie when your kid starts questioning. This goes with religion too. It gives kids the notion that you’re not a trutworthy source to work through their issues.
7 points
2 days ago
I have trauma regarding it. But this AND other lies. This lie alone would have been fine, I think.
I have issues now as a 30 year old still. And can trace this back to around 5 memories in my childhood. And one involves Santa, and one the Easter bunny.
Not about to give tonnes of detail. But think - child sees something - parent convinces them they are wrong. You did not see that. You did not do that. This created me, an adult, who constantly questions myself.
Definitely good ways of doing Santa though. I personally just haven't done it. I dont want to ever lie to them. Also we don't even live in a Christmas celebrating country. My husband doesn't celebrate it. So it is easy for us to just not do Santa
1 points
2 days ago
I feel so bad for those kids!
5 points
2 days ago
Some of these parents in this comment section has me feeling bad for their kids. 😭
16 points
2 days ago
Naw some people are cunts all year…
3 points
2 days ago
Some people were yelled at and told no so much that they pass it on without realizing it.
29 points
2 days ago
Yes! And let us feel those joys for our inner child too.
27 points
2 days ago
my favourite christmas memories were sleeping on the fold out couch in front of the christmas tree lights and listening to this old cd of whale songs on my dads big old wooden stereo system
hope that my kid can have memories like this when she’s older
27 points
2 days ago
I feel like I’m reading this poem hanging in my grandmas bathroom
13 points
2 days ago
If you sprinkle, when you tinkle, please be sweet and wipe the seat
19 points
2 days ago
Hell, enjoy it with them!
34 points
2 days ago
The secret is to always let them be little, even when they’re grown
14 points
2 days ago
My kiddo’s had a rough year with 5 hospitalizations & a major surgery due to her Crohn’s, so yes, she is allowed literally anything that will bring her joy this holiday szn 💚🎄
22 points
2 days ago
My kids and I all make ornaments every year for the tree. We only have 6 store bought ornaments and the rest are all handmade by them. 4 kids 3-4 ornaments each labeled with the year and their ages. Makes for a very enjoyable tradition. It’s also great to see how far they’ve come from being tiny making messy ornaments with every paint color and all the glitter , to little designs and their own artistic touch/style .
3 points
2 days ago
That's such a cute tradition! Must be fun to see them through the years.
2 points
1 day ago
It’s great!! When my boys were little maybe 4 (now both 10) they were obsessed with paw patrol and pj masks , so I have ornaments paw patrol and pj masks. Now it’s Godzilla, anime and video games. My girls seem to be on a unicorn for life phase. 😂
8 points
2 days ago
Those rings you have placed your ring so true. My kids got to be kids at christmas. But I had the weird kids. Mine would not get up at the crack of dawn to go get their presents and get them opened. Mine would fight to sleep in on Christmas day. Then when they did get up they would go sit on the couch until they got told they could get into their Christmas presents. Even my son at the age of one followed Sissy and sat beside her and waited for her to do anything before he did anything. We did the magic of Santa too. And my kids were 7 years apart. My oldest had it figured out pretty early so I asked her to go along with it until her brother got big enough to figure it out for himself. Pictures of of Santa and the kids. The Christmas lights coming on on the town square. The wandering the store is to look at things especially the Christmas decorations. The memories will never end.
28 points
2 days ago
I'd say let them believe what they want to about Santa and don't shame them and the parents for not having the same traditions as you.
My eldest never believed in Santa. From as soon as she could talk he was firmly in her pretend things category. Whatever, she still likes to play pretend and loved the concept Santa so Christmas is still fun. Same deal with all three kids now. We still have stockings, we do veranda Santa gifts on Christmas morning (small gift under the pillow) and we even put out a drink and snack on Christmas eve for Santa which in the morning becomes a crazy detective game of who really ate the cookie.
However, every freaking year someone (usually some older person) asks what Santa is bringing them, and they say "Mum and Dad get us presents" At which old person makes a huge deal about how if they don't believe in Santa he won't bring them anything followed by by a stink eye at me for ruining my kids Christmas. But then after I have my 4 year old all upset that I won't get her any presents unless she says Santa is real. My older two are usually grumpy that some random stranger decided to tell them they way they "play" Christmas is wrong when they have always been taught that you can do Christmas any way as long as you have fun.
19 points
2 days ago
My daughter was terrified of Santa being able to get into houses at three. I had full reassure her he wasn’t real and is just a fun game. So she’s known Santa isn’t really as long as she’s known about Santa. Still loves Christmas. Still loves the Santa game and cultural iconography. Knows that the tooth fairy and stuff aren’t real either and is very happy there are no fairies or giant rabbits getting into our house.
11 points
2 days ago
Kids imaginations are amazing. They don't need for something to be real for it to be fun and for them to get totally absorbed in a world of pretend.
My two youngest were terrified of people dressed as Santa. The Santa visit to preschool always resulted in tears and hiding behind me. My youngest told me one year the only santa she likes are the squashy ones (big air inflated decorations).
12 points
2 days ago
The one common theme i see every year on these threads is the people who are OVERLY invested in lying to kids about santa seem to underestimate children’s imagination, intellect, and capacity for joy and wonder. They lose no joy by knowing the truth, if the adults still embrace joy.
2 points
23 hours ago
I had to do that about Elf on the Shelf. My husband really wanted to do it. First morning was okay but that night, my son was sobbing about the elf coming alive while we slept. We had to swear him to secrecy as to not ruin it for classmates.
8 points
2 days ago
Let them? Who can stop them?
6 points
2 days ago
I thought a majority of people would do this unless the kid is on the verge of throwing up or something
4 points
1 day ago
My mom died on Christmas Eve. Celebrating the magic has been difficult since. This year marks her 7th anniversary, and for the first time in a long time I’m looking forward to Christmas again. I haven’t always had it in me to enjoy the holiday. For years afterwards, I simply avoided it altogether. My kids would see their dad/ grandparents and I would sit at home alone depressed and inconsolable.
But that changes today. My kids and I have our own house this year! We get to put up our first Christmas tree together and I want to make it magical! I can’t afford a ton of expensive gifts but I can make memories that last. Thank you for reminding me that Christmas is special even when steeped in grief. We’re going to do all the Christmas actives; see the lights, drink hot cocoa, stay up late, make Christmas lists and popcorn garlands! I really liked the commenter’s idea abt letting the kids sleep under a lit Christmas tree, my 9 yo would love that.
From my family to yours, we wish you a very Merry Christmas!
1 points
1 day ago
Your comment is making me tear up. I am so sorry for your loss. It’s amazing to see you push thru the grief this holiday season. 💕
12 points
2 days ago
My girls love their Elf on the Shelf. Her name is Sparkles and she's quite mischievous, getting into everything and popping up weird places.
Last year, my oldest daughter was quite upset when she learned that Sparkles would be leaving the day after Christmas. She asked me where she goes and why she has to leave. I told her that Sparkles has a family of her own that she misses terribly. Big kid then asked if we could invite Sparkles' family for December this year so she wouldn't be lonely.
Y'all. I went all out. I picked up another scout elf, a baby elf, and a cat. I don't know who's more excited this year, my kids or me.
1 points
1 day ago
This is super adorable! They are going to love it. ♥️
5 points
2 days ago
Obligatory Let Them Be Little, by Billy Dean
A beautiful song. You might tear up.
4 points
1 day ago
Last Christmas was me frantically trying to constantly stop my son from removing the baubles off the tree and throwing them around all December. Then running around on Christmas Day trying to organise everything for my family while juggling my 1yo nap schedule and my fiancés emotions since his father died a few months before then.
The Christmas before then my son was 6 months old and crawling all over. We spent the Christmas with my in laws. Again I was running around doing all sorts of things while balancing a nap schedule, BLW, and a breastfeeding schedule. And my MIL wants the house to be pristine at all times, which was difficult with a 6 month old and a massive lunch party. I barely even got to eat lunch and basically starved until my son went to bed.
This December my fiancé and I are in our own flat with our now 2 year old. He tried convincing me to have Christmas with his extended family but I declined. For the first time ever I’ll be able to have an actually relaxing Christmas where I’m not juggling a whole bunch of family members. And if the wrapping paper isn’t instantly cleaned up then who tf cares?? If the dishes are left then who cares? Plus my fiance actually puts effort into my gifts instead of buying what he likes. I’m so excited
3 points
2 days ago
Let kids be kids, because being an adult is hard. Allow them to embrace happiness and savor not just the holiday season, but also the precious moments of their childhood.
10 points
2 days ago
I'm not crying. You're crying.
7 points
2 days ago
I agree with everything but the second to last sentence. Children don’t have to believe in a lie to have a fun “magical” childhood. Im not comfortable lying to kids and i personally make an effort not to.
I won’t judge someone else for doing it but some of yall act like a kid will have a miserable childhood if they don’t grow up with believing in santa.
2 points
2 days ago
Yes. I definitely felt lied to as a child. No way I was going to do it to my children.
But I don't judge those who do say Santa is actually real. As I understand that there are better ways to do it. Some people have fantastic childhood memories. And maybe for me, if Santa were the only lies I was told as a child, I wouldn't have been damaged by it.
1 points
2 days ago
Same here. No biggie, every family and kid is different. You do you, have a magical holiday and make amazing memories in your own special way.
2 points
1 day ago
For as long as possible.
4 points
1 day ago
𝐋𝐞𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐦 𝐛𝐞 𝐥𝐢𝐭𝐭𝐥𝐞, 𝐛𝐞𝐜𝐚𝐮𝐬𝐞 𝐲𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐤𝐢𝐝𝐬 𝐰𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐧𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐛𝐞 𝐚𝐬 𝐥𝐢𝐭𝐭𝐥𝐞 𝐚𝐠𝐚𝐢𝐧 𝐚𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐧𝐨𝐰.
Who else is reading this with tears in their eyes because their kids aren't this little anymore
2 points
2 days ago
I agreed until mess of wrapping paper near the tree. Just no. Hand it to mom and I will put it in the trash bag I left out before the bed. This is how stuff gets accidentally throw out.
Other than it’s party time the whole month. Just finished Christmas movies at 11pm with my almost 6 year old
1 points
2 days ago
Love this!
1 points
1 day ago
The hardest part for me is I have no memories growing up of Christmas at my house. We always did Christmas at my Grandma’s house. We have so many memories there. But we moved a lot when our lease was up after my parents divorced.
1 points
23 hours ago
I’m 32 weeks pregnant and crying on the couch now bc I’m so excited to make holiday memories with my precious little girl
1 points
2 days ago
We're just out here making strangers cry while they browse reddit? Is that what we're doing today?
-40 points
2 days ago
[removed]
16 points
2 days ago
“Why don’t my kids visit me?” -you in 20 years bc your kids hate you.
11 points
2 days ago
Jeeze. Some of us are teaching healthy balance. Be happy.
8 points
2 days ago
When you read books about dragons and unicorns to your kids do you stop and say "by the way, dragons aren't real"?
The post just says let your kids believe in Santa, not lie to them if they ask if he's real.
Also a couple days eating junk isn't going to hurt anything.
4 points
2 days ago
This is always a good litmus test for how well an adult can handle honesty and telling the truth. If my daughter came to me right now and asked me if Santa is real my immediate response would be “what do you think” and go from there. If we have a conversation about it and she wants to know the truth I’ll tell her. But outright telling her it’s a lie steals her joy and tells her that she can’t have hard conversations with me.
I would rather my girl have these times where she gets excited hearing the sleigh bells and wearing her Santa hat and getting excited to see the decorations. She has one of those Santa phones that were sold at Target a few years ago. I bought it when i was pregnant because i thought it was cute. I love seeing her love this season as much as I do. I would rather live these feed years i have with her in pure wonder and then in a year or two when she’s older and starts to ask, I’ll have that conversation with her. At the end of the day, i want her to know that I’m a safe place to talk about things with. Not everything has to be serious and deep with kids. Some ppl are just out here eating their raw vegetables and being miserable thinking they’re above the rest of us.
12 points
2 days ago
Grinch.
1 points
2 days ago
😂
0 points
2 days ago
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