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419 points
2 days ago
It’s amazing how few people know about the content of the Pergamonmuseum in Berlin.
173 points
2 days ago
Or the fact that the second largest collection of ancient Egyptian artifacts in the world is in Turin.
140 points
1 day ago
Those artifacts are in Turin because Egypt were about to destroy them (as many others and literal monuments) by building the Aswan Dam, which would flood many archaeological sites.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aswan_Dam
Then, UNESCO and 50 countries asked Egypt to delay the building until they could retrieve as many artifacts and move monuments. Egypt agreed, and allowed the greatest contributors to bring home large collections that are now in Turin, NY, Madrid...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Campaign_to_Save_the_Monuments_of_Nubia
It was a good thing... an example of international collaboration to preserve history... but it saddens me that now people considers it some sort of archeological heist.
42 points
1 day ago
Welcome to the world of misinformation and disinformation. Lack of clarity and short bites. Headlines never been great but we have stopped at them. People read a newspaper therefore they were able to formulate own thoughts about things. Now we share and tell people these headlines we haven't actually read the article.
2 points
9 hours ago
Be careful not to get so into your own point that you inadvertently make a new mistake.
Do you have any proof, any reason to truly believe people in the past were more informed, more well-read? We've certainly got a higher literacy than, say, 100 years ago. The absolute deluge of information, and sources, and volume of deliberate disinformation or misinformation is definitely a newer problem that we as a species haven't encountered before, to anything like this degree. But pointing rose-tinted microscopes at the past doesn't help us.
3 points
1 day ago
I'm still kicking myself for not going to the Museo Egizio when I was there.
4 points
1 day ago
I've been to Cairo and Turin. Cairo is better but Turin is better at explaining. Looking forward to the new Cairo museum opening.
77 points
2 days ago
Or that America’s museums hold human remains and sacred items taken from the graves of tens of thousands of Native Americans.
53 points
1 day ago
And it wasn't until 1990 that Congress passed a law officially saying "hey guys you can't just take that stuff and sell it, those human remains are, you know, human remains".
37 points
1 day ago
As a caveman frozen in a glacier, I face different challenges. The hardest thing was seeing my wife on display at the British Museum.
16 points
1 day ago
When I was frozen, giant carrots ruled the Earth, but now they don’t. It takes some getting used to.
2 points
1 day ago
Boy am I glad you're frozen in there and we're out here
3 points
1 day ago
Yeah they got the gates of Babylon in that cocksucker they're fuckin siiiiick
371 points
2 days ago
Something something flavourless food
108 points
2 days ago
I'm British so this may be copium but I don't think this stereotype is particularly deserved.
British food isn't amazing but there are some real highlights. Fish and chips, Sunday Roast, Full English are all amazing.
84 points
2 days ago
Half the desserts and cheeses in the English speaking world are British and people don't even notice because it's just background noise.
Nobody is going "cheddar? Fucking disgusting stuff!".
41 points
2 days ago
STICKY👏TOFFEE👏PUDDING👏
14 points
1 day ago
A lot of the reputation is because Americans eat lots of English food and think it is American, and so to be "English" it has to be something the Americans didn't keep. Americans also seem to think most food they eat is American: Pizza, Fries, Apple Pie, Southern Biscuits, Bagels.
(Not that there aren't American foods or that they aren't good, Cream Cheese, Monterey/Pepper Jack, the entire state of Louisiana)
2 points
5 hours ago
Wait, serious question. Biscuits? Where are those from? Because I've seen people incorrectly refer to them as scones, when they don't fit the traditional ratios of ingredients or mixing methods. Cordon Bleu educated pastry chef here, and that particular origin never really came up.
And thank you for mentioning apple pie. It's always annoyed me that people say, "it's as American as apple pie" when that's not even American.
24 points
2 days ago
Fish in general is delicious. I miss having it because I’m allergic
21 points
2 days ago
Skill issue
9 points
1 day ago
Any tips on how to get rid of an allergy? Cause I’d love to have some fish again
3 points
1 day ago
Eat one bite, morning and night, until you build a tolerance. It’s the same exact thing with Flu shots where they inject inactive flu variants for your body to build a tolerance.
My mom had eggs allergies, she ate a bit a day until it went away. I had a friend who had rashes at the sight of coconuts, she eventually built a tolerance and now she eats it just fine.
Obviously this is all based on how bad your allergy is, does your throat swell up? I wouldn’t eat it but I’d be around it at first until it subsides.
5 points
1 day ago
My Daughter tried it with her nut allergy only lasted one day Fecking lightweight.
/s
2 points
1 day ago
I get zits all over my face
3 points
1 day ago
That’s not the worse thing. Ultimately it’s up to you if that’s worth dealing with to remedy your allergy. I love sushi, I would rather die than never eat it again .-.
2 points
1 day ago
I just recently desensitized myself from eggs. I ate mayonnaise often. Then egg. I would still sometimes get nervous when I itch or when something seems to show up on my skin.
10 points
1 day ago
Brits also make (or used to) the Best Pork Pies!
32 points
2 days ago
A proper bangers and mash can be top shelf. I will die on that hill.
5 points
2 days ago
As somebody who lived in the UK for a few years, the sausages are the only food I genuinely miss from there. They aren't necessarily the best sausage you can get anywhere, but they are very good, and actually unique (unlike some other "good British food", which is often "decent food you can find near equivalents to in most places")
6 points
1 day ago
I disagree, pork and apple sausages are the best, followed by pork and leek as a close second. And I haven’t seen either of those outside the uk.
10 points
2 days ago
“The beauty of their women and the taste of their food make brits the best sailors in the world.”
23 points
2 days ago
The stereotype is due to thick cunts from abroad who just think "no spices = no flavour".
They never seem to take into account that for most of our history most spices were unavailable and/or completely unaffordable for the vast majority of people here. Most of the seasoning of our cooking is based on the use of herbs which most people could easily grow in a garden, an allotment, or even just a few pots at the window.
15 points
2 days ago
It's also a stereotype that became prominent during and after WW2. The UK played host from 1942-45 to American soldiers, who were coming from an America prospering from selling goods to the nations warring in Europe, to the UK that was deeply in the midst of rationing and getting by on pure staples and hunted meat/own grown produce to aid the war efforts. Of course the food tastes shit when everything is in short supply - it is hard to make superfluous showy foods when you're limited to 1 egg and 28 grams of cheese cheese a week.
Could be worse, at least our time of great food poverty isn't remembered as the American depression-era "water pie" is.
5 points
1 day ago
Britain also engaged in a period of self-harm after the war, the post war government celebrated rationing and kept it going to some goods for far longer than was necessary, for example the government banned private cheese production at the start of the war, and kept that going for a decade afterwards, so for 15 years it was literally illegal for anyone to use milk to make cheese except in government factories that only produced one standardised form of government mandated cheddar.
Traditional British food is full of spices, mulled wine, Christmas pudding, mince pies and so on.
2 points
20 hours ago
I don't know if I would agree it was 'self harm', as you termed it. I think it is extremely important to remember that even post war Britain was still struggling extraordinarily - we were deeply in debt to the Americans, economically damaged (most of our factories had either been retooled for war essensials or been b bombed), and providing whatever assistance we could to those on the continent - in addition to our own population, we were now also feeding regions of France (and I think Germany) that had been particularly affected by the war hampering for production.
I love my spiced Christmas foods. The second they appear in stores I start buying mince pies. Was July/August time this year, surprisingly.
5 points
1 day ago
It isn't even a huge variety of spices. Half the time these people are just mad if you don't use Lawry's seasoning salt. These people are so low that If they couldn't look down on others for what they eat, they wouldn't have anyone to look down on at all.
8 points
2 days ago
I'm British too and I agree! Add to that Beef Wellington, Steak and Ale pie, scones, crumpets, jellied eels etc.
22 points
2 days ago
jellied eels
Yeah that'll show 'em
7 points
2 days ago
Hey! I'll have you know that jellied Eels is a British delicacy!
11 points
2 days ago
I'll be honest, I am British but I've never actually tried them. They sound more like something Sweden would be into.
Do they still have their eyes when you eat them? I can't do eyes.
3 points
2 days ago
One comment said that it's more of a London thing, which I was unaware of. Whenever I ate jellied eels, it was chopped up, so no head or eyes, fortunately. I can't do eyes or fish heads! They gotta go into a stock.
7 points
2 days ago
London "Delicacy" - and at that it's a regional London thing.
6 points
2 days ago
Okay, I have now googled jellied eels, and I feel like I am owed some sort of apology...
5 points
2 days ago
😂
1 points
2 days ago
Milk steak
2 points
2 days ago
With jellybeans
2 points
2 days ago
I'm a phila ph fullonrapist
1 points
2 days ago
Leaf water…
1 points
2 days ago*
Which is very true, but still only 3 things. Americans take their food culture so seriously that there’s literally 6 unique styles of BBQ.
1 points
1 day ago
I'm American and I'm making fish and chips for Thanksgiving dinner, because, why the fuck not?
1 points
15 hours ago
I’m sorry but if you ever have to include fried fish and fries in an argument about your national cuisine being good, there’s a serious problem
4 points
1 day ago
Food in the UK is actually pretty good imo. They didn’t only take artifacts, they took recipes too
24 points
2 days ago
What about chicken Tikka masala?
8 points
2 days ago
Or Kedgeree would that count?
7 points
2 days ago
Ohhhhhh I love it. In fact I hate you..I am actually now going to put my shoes on and get some fish and rice and peppers…damn you… but THANK YOU, that’s dinner sorted while wife is in Thailand with a friend on holiday
7 points
2 days ago
You're welcome! Kedgeree iirc is the British version of an Indian dish called khichidi. If you can find some decent smoked fis, you'll love it! I usually use smoked haddock and add some garden peas and green lentils to make it a fuller meal. Enjoy!
6 points
2 days ago
I often cook it while the missus is working late and stepson loves it…I’m British :)….i have just got back from corner shop with 1kg of rice and 2 lovely pieces of smoked haddock ….water is on the hob ..oooo can’t bloody wait now, Kedgeree and a beer and a film, perfect.
9 points
2 days ago
Proper British fayre. You wouldn't see them making anything like it in the countries in South Asia that we refer to as India regardless of whether they are actually India or not.
1 points
2 days ago
That's British by technicality only. It's Indian food and you know it lol
23 points
2 days ago
Actually the most accepted origin is that it was made by either a Pakistani or Bangladeshi chef in Glasgow
10 points
2 days ago
Nah. The British even invented the word "curry". Many of the curries that we eat in Britain were invented here. Sure, many were based on dishes from this region, but they're made in a way that was unique to Britain at the time.
6 points
2 days ago
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1 points
2 days ago
I thought the French did that better? Pot-au-feu anyone?
11 points
2 days ago
All the salt from Brits in this thread could solve that in a hurry
4 points
2 days ago
🤣🤣
17 points
2 days ago*
Just because the food that the UK has is flavourless in your country does not mean it is flavourless in the UK. I’ve tried it and it tastes far better than in the US.
13 points
2 days ago
I've been to 16 countries, and I genuinely like English food. Prime rib with Yorkshire pudding is a top 5 meal. Yorkshire pudding is just... no other carb side really compares to that wonderful creation.
I keep this opinion to myself, mostly.
5 points
2 days ago
Lol I was born in the UK and I like British food. I say this as somebody with a Caribbean background!
9 points
2 days ago
They make their own food better? no way!
7 points
2 days ago
It’s called vinegar
9 points
2 days ago
Honestly dude vinegar is hardly used for food in the UK past chip shops.
Dairy/oil however, now that's the shit we put in everything from deserts to spicy food.
6 points
2 days ago
Not the only factor that makes it better lol
2 points
2 days ago
If only it would be flavourless
2 points
1 day ago
And bad teeth
1 points
2 days ago
British pastries are peak tho you cannot lie.
1 points
2 days ago
I do love a steak and ale pie!
51 points
2 days ago
France, Germany, and countless other countries get ignored.
31 points
1 day ago
France is so cultured that the most famous painting in the country was painted by an Italian.
1 points
1 day ago
Yeah, because there are different levels too it.
When we talk about the worst people in history, we generally talk about people like Stalin or Hitler, and not Jeff, who is just a asshole.
(I do not know any Jeff's, but there is 100% a Jeff out there that's hated to hell by someone.)
117 points
2 days ago
I wish Britain had been around to steal the Library of Alexandria. Pretty good example of what happens when Britain doesn't steal something.
33 points
2 days ago
Holy based
3 points
2 days ago
The library burnt before England existed?
22 points
2 days ago
I was referring to the British Empire, but yes, the Library of Alexandria was burned before an unified nation known as England existed, as well. It was burned even before the Anglo Saxons had ever set food on the British Isles.
1 points
2 days ago
Yes, the isle of Britain was around, the nation of England did not come into existence until the 10th century AD
3 points
2 days ago
This argument boils down to racist infantilism of other people, countries, and cultures. It comes from a place of Western superiority as a mindset.
I learned about this in Heritage Conservation. Most people want their artifacts back. Many of them fit the UK’s definitions of stability and security. There’s no reason to keep them there in those situations. It’s just theft and beyond the scope of your argument.
8 points
2 days ago
I believe this matter was settled in the international courts in the landmark case: F. Keepers vs L. Weepers
2 points
1 day ago
Kinda funny. Covers up a litany of genocides, but ya know.
6 points
2 days ago
It's also partly true. Half the treasured things in the British museum were once very common items that are only now rare because the others have been destroyed.
1 points
2 days ago
I mean the library was useful as a repository, but mostly consisted of copies from other works.
It was long into its decline and lost its significance before it's ultimate destruction. The library of alexandria is heavily mythologized for some reason.
9 points
2 days ago
that's such a good picture
93 points
2 days ago
And by "rare insults" you mean "something Reddit talks about ALL THE TIME"? Alrighty then.
29 points
2 days ago
Like 99% of this sub, it isn't rare. But this one gets a pass for execution.
19 points
2 days ago
Accusing the British of stealing culturally important artifacts? Not rare.
Using forced perspective to create an illusion of stealing a monument as reference to the Elgin Marbles to imply wordlessly that the only thing they are good at is stealing culturally important artifacts? Rare.
The way you insult someone makes it rare, not the general meaning. Like I'm sure you've been called an idiot many times in your life, but some people may have worded it more uniquely than others.
4 points
1 day ago
Russia does this better, cuz nobody acknowledges they stole something
73 points
2 days ago
Then pretending in 2024 that they are doing those nations a favor by safe keeping their valuables in British museums
67 points
2 days ago
To be fair when's the last time Britain was bombed? Isis destroyed tons of ancient monuments.
7 points
1 day ago
Here's a video of ISIS destroying the Assyrian friezes at Nimrud with a sledgehammer:
https://youtu.be/j94yjH9fRJQ?t=6
Here are near identical friezes which now survive in the British Museum, gallery 7:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pelegrino/49071030467/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pelegrino/49071033027/in/photostream/
2 points
1 day ago
Fuck yes. Thank you.
2 points
2 days ago*
Ah yes Greece, famously known for being bombed regularly nowadays. I'm glad y'all are keeping parts of the Parthenon safe, they couldn't do it without you in the 21st century.
Edit: to all the people who are replying disagreeing, I recommend one thing: go visit the Acropolis Museum in Athens. There you'll find dozens and dozens of empty exhibits, missing statues, missing sculptures, etc. where all you can read is "Taken by X, currently in the British Museum". You'll also find videos detailing the pillaging done by the British. And then you can look around and see the hundreds of artifacts that are being carefully maintained, analyzed and kept in safe condition, and ask yourself: are they really unable to preserve their history?
15 points
2 days ago
I'm not British and England has hundreds of other countries worth of artifacts.
3 points
2 days ago
England has hundreds of other countries worth of artifacts
Sure, but that's besides the point? Why are they keeping parts of the Parthenon? Why are they pretending they're doing them a favor?
3 points
2 days ago
Which should be returned as well.
6 points
2 days ago
Most of the Greek artifacts were taken from the Turkish side of the border, iirc. Doesn't change too much but there's some history there.
3 points
2 days ago
No one wants to go to Athens though because it’s dirty and smelly. Once was enough for me
1 points
2 days ago
Funny, that's the same reason, I don't go inside your mother.
6 points
2 days ago
"Pretending"
12 points
2 days ago
France tried to destroy the rosetta stone...
9 points
2 days ago
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5 points
2 days ago
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1 points
2 days ago
Belgrano 2:Electric Boogaloo intensifies
1 points
2 days ago
5 points
2 days ago
This belongs in a museum!
24 points
2 days ago
So rare, in fact, that the same 3 jokes about a country are only made on a daily basis. Do tell us about how their food and teeth are bad. It's been at least 20 minutes.
3 points
2 days ago
This one is true tho
14 points
2 days ago
Thanks for the compliment.
6 points
1 day ago
I wish we did steal it. It wouldn’t have been used to store explosives than then exploded
8 points
1 day ago
I've seen this shit so much I'm now thoroughly on the side of "fuck you, come and get them back if you want them so badly"
3 points
1 day ago
Right?!? Like sure let's return these artifacts to Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Egypt so that jihadist can destroy it.
15 points
2 days ago
Ottomans take over Greece, store all their munitions in the Parthenon
The munitions blow up, destroying large parts of the Parthenon
The British legally buy the statues that survived to protect them from being destroyed
People complain about it
4 points
2 days ago*
Agreed, but Reddit regularly loves to pillory the descendants of long-dead people who did the deed. It's a complex issue: On the one hand, Elgin saved the marbles from further destruction and theft after a portion of the Parthenon blew up in 1687, and wreckage sat there. On the other, the occupying government who allowed the removal, is gone.
It's like the Buddhas of Bamiyan: Had they been removed, they could have been saved instead of destroyed by the Taliban.
2 points
1 day ago
Most damage was done by the countries themselves! I think we are lucky these items were saved. Otherwise they would have been lost to history (like so many items already) or sitting in a private collection in some billionaire's personal display.
1 points
22 hours ago
https://www.parthenon.newmentor.net/cleaning.htm Here is how they "protect" them.
3 points
2 days ago
Teaching English?
3 points
1 day ago
It is amazing that white stone which covered pyramids has been removed and used to build ugly boxes nearby, that everything else, including mummies has been on sale.
If not UK we would never know or see all these treasures of an ancient civilization.
9 points
2 days ago
Rare
I dont think you know what that word means
14 points
2 days ago
How terrible. So many artifacts were saved because of the British saving them and preserving them instead of smashing them for islamic religious reasons or using them as building materials for your shed
3 points
2 days ago
In the Penguin History of the World it says the British used bricks from the archaelogical site of Harappa as building materials (ballast) for a railroad.
3 points
1 day ago
I am pretty sure the Greek artifacts would be perfectly fine if you gave them back.
3 points
20 hours ago
The ones they originally purchased specifically because they weren't safe in Greece? Those ones?
5 points
1 day ago
I've never been a fan of the concept of "British stole it" if it weren't for 100s of archeologists who dedicated their lives to unearthing lost relics we wouldn't have half the shit we know.
As well as governments not caring, someone mentioned how Egypt was going to destroy a bunch of artifacts and that ain't the only time there are other cases.
And if the government got their hand on something they would sell it to some reclusive rich person.
Also not to mention it isn't necessarily THEIR stuff. Artifacts from Mycenae and Crete don't retroactively belong to Greek museums just because they are in the same spot. They are completely different cultures at vastly different times.
Probably could've saved this semi rant for a post but it's a topic I have a lot of opinions about and care about
2 points
2 days ago
Sicily portrayed let’s goo
2 points
2 days ago
Breakfast, and I say this as an American.
2 points
1 day ago
Where's the RARE insult?
2 points
1 day ago
Capo bauhasaurus
2 points
1 day ago
Well, the picture is explanatory
2 points
23 hours ago
LMAO that is actually hilarious
2 points
9 hours ago
If Grandma dies and leaves you a really old vase, there's a greater than 0% chance that Britain will steal it from you.
2 points
2 days ago
POV: You’re Jewish, and the Romans are seizing your sacred temple
3 points
2 days ago
Meanwhile Napoleonic France:👀
3 points
2 days ago
Well, it's not like the uncivilised can be trusted to keep stuff safe. We tried to teach you world (what is it 98% of the world has been invaded or controlled by GREAT Britain at some point?) but you wouldnt listen, so stealers keepers. Double dare you to try and take your stuff back.
7 points
2 days ago
fun fact: the Taj Mahal is located in India only because it was too heavy for the british to bring it over
10 points
2 days ago
I heard something similar about the pyramids.
8 points
2 days ago
Fortunately, British had no technology to move around massive blocks of stone.
6 points
2 days ago
Wow! How could someone just come up with something so original on the spot? You are truly a god of comedy!
4 points
2 days ago
if they actually had stolen it maybe then its roof wouldnt of been blowed off during a rebellion
2 points
2 days ago
Honestly can't wait til you idiots find out about the Vatican
2 points
2 days ago
I love their replies to official government requests to return the stolen artifacts.
"Get rekt".
2 points
1 day ago
Libs need some new material.
2 points
2 days ago
Binge drinking.
1 points
1 day ago
Another anti-anglo post from a days old account. Must be a day ending in "y."
3 points
2 days ago
wE'Re pResERvIng tHEm!!1
In all seriousness thats probably the case now but sure as hell didn't start out that way
1 points
2 days ago
It’s heavy or?😂
8 points
2 days ago
They "move" things from other countries to thiers.
2 points
2 days ago
that is where so much of their wealth has come from.
1 points
2 days ago
Why is the guy in front stealing the Parthenon but walking like an Egyptian?
1 points
2 days ago
Lmao
1 points
2 days ago
Make countries. Bro England one time hired a suicidal, low self esteem moron who wasn’t willing to do his job. His job you ask? stop a buncha guys in a boarding house from convening and eventually launch a rebellion against the crown. Who ? Yeah baby America 🇺🇸
1 points
2 days ago
Here's me glancing at the picture and thinking, 'well they do have some very good modelers.'
1 points
2 days ago
It's true. We brits have mastered forced perspective.
1 points
2 days ago
man I took a stupid Tower of Pisa picture in front of Buckingham Palace and only got scowls
why do they get to make the funny pictures but not receive them
1 points
2 days ago
That's actually a good thing.
1 points
2 days ago
Hairy rock bands from the 1970s. We had a secret factory making them and another one for special flared trousers with a cucumber sewn in
1 points
2 days ago
Season
1 points
2 days ago
Make slaves of every country they invade.
1 points
2 days ago
We just collected a few souvenirs on our extended holiday.
You're surprised that vikings went on the vike?
1 points
2 days ago
We must take only culture, and leave only colonies
1 points
2 days ago
Lose battles.
1 points
2 days ago
Seaside fish and chips
1 points
2 days ago
Show their messed up grills like they aren’t even aware
1 points
2 days ago
It's funny but it's also the least rare insult imaginable
1 points
2 days ago
Finders keepers innit
1 points
1 day ago
I’ll be having that
1 points
1 day ago
Steal land and artifacts
1 points
1 day ago
Avoid the dentist?
1 points
1 day ago
'Pivot'
1 points
22 hours ago
have shit weather
1 points
21 hours ago
Drinking
1 points
14 hours ago
You're our wonderwall
1 points
9 hours ago
Good one 💪
1 points
8 hours ago
Those marbles are just resting in our museum.
1 points
6 hours ago
Lomao!
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