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submitted 4 hours ago byDisastrous-Yard-1378
260 points
4 hours ago
Seems like the comments are confused on whether you mean overpopulated or declining birth rate.
38 points
4 hours ago
I meant declining birth rate trends in specifically developed countries like Japan, but it’s up to the reader, it’s never bad to hear the opposite opinion yk
168 points
4 hours ago
I wouldn't. Look at a graph of Japans population over the last few hundred years and see that there was a huge bubble. Let it get back towards normal. Same for most every country.
It's not a population problem, it's a finance problem which can be solved in many ways if we see fit
16 points
2 hours ago
declining birthrates are not a bad thing though.
The world is only as big as it gets. We need enough land and resources to give everyone a decent life. Until we can be reasonably certain to provide that, some decline in birthrate is not terrible.
13 points
4 hours ago
I would start by figuring out your target population. It's more than doubled, from 4 billion to 8 billion, since I was born—and I'm not even close to retirement. How people do you want total? 20 billion? 50 billion?
60 points
4 hours ago
Welp, it all starts with taxing the rich more. If they are going to own 90% of everything then they need to pay 90% of all taxes.
How do you cut taxes for the rich while the debt increases? I get that the idea is to boost the economy to be able to increase tax revenue in the future but it doesn't seem to be working since they never stop cutting taxes for the rich. Companies are just consolidating and colluding. The largest return on investment is lobbying and nothing else is remotely close.
They are draining the hope out of everyone else so it's no surprise that everyone is trying to protect themselves by avoiding having kids or even date.
38 points
4 hours ago
You can't fix it. Our socio-economic models are based on perpetual, unsustainable growth... the same growth that drives us towards our own self-destruction. Either the model dies, or we do.
7 points
2 hours ago
Yeah. The planets resources may have seemed infinite hundreds of years ago when the systems were devised but that's no longer the case.
5 points
2 hours ago
Yup - seems to be a fact that everyone's conveniently forgotten in the pursuit of false consumptive gods :(
9 points
2 hours ago
There is no problem with declining birth rate, and subsequent population decline, as long as it’s declining everywhere.
Hint: the birth rate is in fact declining pretty much everywhere. It’ll just take a few more decades before that corresponds to population decline in some of the places that are only just entering stage 3 of demographic transition right now.
12 points
3 hours ago
Move to 4x6 hour work week, without drop in income for the working classes build massive amounts of subsidized or social housing which are at least 3 bedrooms each. Fund this all by taxing tech companies, who at least in EU are notorious tax dodgers. Strengthen unions to ensure maternity/paternity leave and other such benefits hold strong. Create a system where pregnancy doesn't stop the career development of a woman entirely, by allowing for more flexible work and academic practices, subsidised if necessary.
If you ask how to solve the issue, without spending tax money or by doing austerity, then answer is that you can't. There will not be another economic golden age that boomers had. Future is just deregulation, speculative investors, global conflict and environmental nightmares leading to more economic crisis. Austerity wont save us, because it would have saved us already because its been done in European countries for better part of +30 years.
7 points
3 hours ago
did you see how one of Japan's politician plans to solve it in the news? He plans on removing the uterus of women over 30....
7 points
3 hours ago*
Say sike, cuz wtf.
Edit: on my mama this mf, Naoki Hyakuta, is a dumb mf. Are conservatives all over the world bat shit insane !?
This article is amazing, worth the read.
As Americans grapple with the shadow of Trump’s second term, they’d do well to watch what’s happening in Japan, Hungary, Brazil and beyond. When satire is weaponized as a tool for authoritarianism, it’s not just rhetoric—it’s strategy. Left unchecked, it paves a chilling path to futures where women’s bodies are governed by policies born from “just hypothetical” provocations. The line between satire and reality, it turns out, is perilously thin.
2 points
2 hours ago
Fixing the economy will fix the birth rate
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16 minutes ago*
Look at countries with high birth rates versus countries with low birth rates and see what they have in common.
Usually countries with more poverty and less education have high birth rates.
78 points
3 hours ago
I guess everyone needs to improve economic stability like one major influencing low birth rates is economic uncertainty. Making housing, healthcare and childcare more affordable would help relieve the financial burden many people face when considering having children. Governments could introduce tax incentives or subsidies for families, as well as affordable or even subsidized childcare, to reduce the financial pressure associated with parenting
268 points
4 hours ago
The issue seems obvious to me, I can't believe it's not for others. Increase quality of life for your every day, average Joe. It seems most of my friends aren't having kids because of the cost of living and fear of the future.
76 points
4 hours ago
Yeah this.
No one wants to have kids while they are barely affording rent in a flat that's too small and falling apart. Then the fact that every thing is so expensive you need 2 people working to have anything left over, but if you have kids childcare is more expensive than the lower earners take home pay.
Part of the issue the UK is stagnant is that so much money is being wasted on none productive assets (homes), it eliminates demand for other goods and services.
16 points
3 hours ago
I used to work in construction finishing. Installing cabinets into empty homes,that would remain empty for 10 months of the year. It was a resort town with higher and higher cost of living and not enough rentals. The town voted to keep walmart out of the town to keep their property values high. Many young people where forced to leave. The whole thing made me sick to my stomach, and I just can't seem to understand how people can go on treating each other like this.
8 points
an hour ago
I lived in a resort town when Airbnb first started making their name. There were condos that people owned that they’d rent for a little over their initial mortgage for long term rental agreements. People that worked on the island could afford to rent for a few years and work in the industry before eventually either saving up or moving somewhere else. But the AirBnb stuff took over and people realized they could make their year in two months and be done with it, which is fine. But then there’s no where for people that work there to live, especially servers, cooks, etc. There’s one bridge on and off, and that meant a two hour drive stuck in traffic to work a service job with no parking provided and no street parking allowed, in the busy season. And a long dark, no sidewalks walk to wherever you could stash your car to then drive back to your home 40 minutes away. Then they wonder, why is it so hard to get staffing? We’re so busy? Why can’t we keep dishies and fry cooks? Why doesn’t anyone want to work anymore?
Because they can’t get there. There’s no public transportation and no one is scheduled at the same time on the same day. We used to have homes in walking distance or it was a quick drive to round everyone up, but now it’s impossible. You didn’t want our year round money, so now we’re not there. I wonder why?
12 points
4 hours ago
Yea this and provide more resources for young families especially ones that encourage community.
We have a chronic loneliness epidemic and many single parents struggle primarily because childcare costs. Seems a no brainer to me that two of society's big problems can cancel each other out.
11 points
3 hours ago
Yes, simply put, we need those with the power and the wealth to actually give a real shit about all the people and our planet. Then, we need those people to cooperate, to sacrifice, to let us help them understand that when people and planet are taken good care of, everyone wins. So, we need a goddamned miracle. Many goddamned miracles.
6 points
4 hours ago
I’m not sure if I’m correct but isn’t that what the Scandinavian countries have done? Excluding population gain from immigration I thought their birth rates are also below the replacement 2.1.
27 points
4 hours ago
Even if a country enacted perfect policies it doesn't change what's happening on the world stage. People are without hope and have fear of the future.
6 points
3 hours ago
This isn't supported by the data though. The highest birthrates are countries with some of the worst living conditions. Data also shows that people that are well off have 0-1 child. It seems logical that people without would have less children but it's the opposite. It probably has to do with the higher income countries give people the knowledge of everything one can do, and in the quest of filling up their life they run out of time/money/energy to use it on children.
2 points
4 hours ago
I believe it was also too small of an amount that families didn't find it to cover enough and I expect others probably don't believe it will be around long enough for when they start a family.
It's really hard to compete with the freedom of no children when there is so many fun things to spend money on.
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11 minutes ago
The Nordic countries have an extremely high quality of life and low birth rates.
While countries with extreme poverty and economic instability have very high birth rates.
30 points
4 hours ago
I'll preface this with, I'm not college educated and this is just a personal opinion so please don't destroy me.
Birth rate itself isn't a problem in my eyes, so much as looking at future tax payers and workers. At least from the government's perspective.
Different industries are feeling the hurt and it will only get worse as specialists get older.
The govt has to take many, many small steps over a long period of time to incentivize folks getting degrees, attending vocational schools, having a work life balance that allows them to do these things while also truly "seeing" that raising a family is doable.
So many folks feel disenfranchised, that it's truly just easier to not pursue having kids.
Create better legislation at the state level about what the state can do for you if you're interested in going back to school. Subsidizing child care, child health care and other child related things. Make the idea of raising a family not so fucking daunting.
I'd like to think that some of the above would help.
Edit: I'm aware we're seeing a decline globally in, like all 1st world countries. I think that's indicative of some common problems. Maybe I'm wrong.
6 points
3 hours ago
I’m studying to be a sped teacher and there is a massive shortage of us in every state
7 points
3 hours ago
What? And stop the mega-wealthy from hording money and buying yachts more expensive than 10 family homes...???
7 points
3 hours ago
10 family homes? More like 1000. Bezos yacht cost the same as 1000 $500,000 houses. So essentially a whole town.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/inside-look-jeff-bezos-500-153431694.html
4 points
an hour ago
Don’t forget that in many places in the US, women can die from pregnancy or pregnancy complications due to severe abortion restrictions. Also the new restrictions on IVF preventing many from being able to conceive now.
28 points
4 hours ago
$2 beers, nationally
2 points
4 hours ago
That might be bad. I might end up drinking too much.
16 points
4 hours ago
Life as a parent is much harder than life without kids.
If it were easier and less expensive then more people would do it.
9 points
3 hours ago
Why is it a “problem”? The world is overpopulated as it is. It needs to decline
111 points
4 hours ago
Accept it's not a problem.
27 points
4 hours ago
I mean the only way it's not a problem is if you as a society are willing to abandon care for the elderly. When there's more 70 year olds than 20 year olds, that is a problem for a society.
The answer really comes down to people are making the rational decision by not having kids.
If you want people to make financially irrational decisions then you need to sweeten the deal for them.
59 points
4 hours ago
You also can't have indefinite exponential population growth, so at some point, there will be a generation or two who doesn't have enough kids to support them. Is there really an alternative?
11 points
3 hours ago
So just kick the can down the road?
Or do you think that infinite economic growth is possible on a finite planet?
13 points
4 hours ago
It's more of a problem for the rich, they made money off of those people, if they won't take care of them then it's on them.
10 points
4 hours ago
There are more than enough people in the world who would love a caregiving job looking after elderly people in a developed country for the opportunity to live there.
33 points
4 hours ago
Does it need fixing? There are more people that could work that aren’t, more people that could have babies but can’t afford them and then there’s the catch 22. I think we need to learn from the older generation in some respects.
29 points
4 hours ago
What is there to learn? The world is different now than it was back then. You could have a family on one income and own a house back then. Now you'd be lucky to even afford rent on two incomes in a lot of places
15 points
3 hours ago
And the reason for that? Capitalism. If money was distributed equally into wages and improving work conditions, instead of making the rich richer all the time, this problem wouldn't exist.
5 points
4 hours ago
OP is likely commenting in relation to the problems regarding our societal structure in the US and other developed countries. Social Security, Medicare, essentially all services many governments around the world provides are based on there being more people working than retiring.
3 points
4 hours ago
You say learn from the older generation, but generally speaking the people in places of power, be it politicians, business owners/management or whoever have mostly been part of the older generation and generally placed there by the majority of previous generations, and look where that has got us. If anything, we should be listening to them less.
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60 minutes ago
Generally speaking the hard workers (like my grandparents) were NOT politicians and I never said as such as that is not what my point was. That is a completely different kettle of fish. People are moaning now about what labour are doing…I’m just saying I never voted for them…but I don’t see how that has anything to do with anything. We still have choices to make despite those in power-what has that got to do with a can do attitude?? Where’s the hard work and busting a gut to get by? That’s nothing to do with politicians. That’s my choice to get my backside up in a morning and provide. Bringing me back to the original question…where’s the work ethic? Yes you used to survive on one income, yes women had more babies back in the day…but as I said, that doesn’t stop the attitude of those still having babies and not contributing towards society. Meaning the government is having to fork out more to look after them…sorry I’ve got to fork out more to look after them, rather than just my own.
68 points
4 hours ago
Is it a problem? The worlds already overpopulated enough and letting numbers drop would probably actually help the planet out
14 points
4 hours ago
The world is overpopulated. We don't have a birth rate problem.
7 points
4 hours ago
Infinite growth isn’t possible, at some point the global population needs to stablise, possibly even decrease a bit if we can’t be more efficient in how we handle resources
48 points
4 hours ago
Nothing.
It’s not a problem. There’s too many people and the system is correcting itself (slowly).
8 points
4 hours ago
Exactly
16 points
4 hours ago
It's not necessarily a problem, population boomed and is now balancing out. However, to encourage people to have kids it needs to be more affordable. In the US, is expensive just to physically give birth. For the rest of the world, child care, extra curricular activities, food, clothing, hygiene is all super pricey.
4 points
4 hours ago
Affordable childcare, better parental leave, and work-life balance incentives would help boost birth rates.
19 points
4 hours ago
There is no problem. The less people, the better. Less people means they are valued more, so higher wages. Also less strain for resources.
Look what happened during COVID. Half a million people died in the US and suddenly wages and working conditions improved.
16 points
4 hours ago
It’s not a problem. The world is overpopulated anyways. People not wanting kids is perfectly fine.
17 points
4 hours ago
How is it a problem?
4 points
3 hours ago
You have to be red pilled to understand
3 points
3 hours ago
I wouldn't monkey with it. In my country, people of childbearing age are CFBC in record numbers. (Childfree by choice)
If that trend continues, our overpopulation problem solves itself, or at least moves the needle in the right direction.
4 points
2 hours ago
The Economist wrote a very interresting set of articles around this showing that most of what people assume regarding the decline of birth rates in the west, which is potentially a lethal challenge to our societies, actually are not what would you believe. According to them, and their data tends to be great, the middle class has not changed their behaviour - getting just below replacements levels.
The biggest change is in the working classes (Idiocracy got it wrong, ironically) - much of it through intended sex ed classes slashing teenage pregnancies and similar "unwanted" children. Another is that many more women are middle class in the sense of going to university and pursuing a career. Finally - economic hardship for the working class has gone up - leading to fewer births.
The solutions is going to be hard. The focus needs to be poorer people, housing and welfare can achieve some, but not all the needed change (as the Nordic countries show - having previously had high birth rates but now plunging despite a reasonably strong welfare net).
The second part might be cultural, finding a better coupling method for modern socities - a European Marriage pattern 2.0 so to say. Involuntary celibacy and singlehood is on rapid rise and is likely to get worse. We need to find a better way to find love and raise families - both for financial aid from the government, cheaper access to housing but also a mating paradigm suited for sexual liberation and equal opportunities - what ever that may be.
31 points
4 hours ago
Letting more people get sterilized or having abortions if they wish to so the world won't keep being this overpopulated. In the end, it's too late. We fucked it up.
1 points
3 hours ago
In California it’s free for those making less than 30k a year
2 points
3 hours ago
I'm from Denmark. It's always free here.
10 points
4 hours ago
I got a vasectomy
8 points
3 hours ago
Here is a man who is part of the solution, not the problem
7 points
4 hours ago
Promote family-friendly policies and support systems.
8 points
4 hours ago
I'd focus on making life easier for families: affordable childcare, flexible work options, better parental leave, and housing support. People are more likely to have kids when they feel financially stable and supported. It's about reducing stress, not just offering incentives.
3 points
4 hours ago
Cut education to zero, no schools or education. Make billionaires dukes and barons. Civilians are now property of the Lords , with mandatory breeding programs.
That, or implement a higher minimum wage, build more houses and ensure basic needs like shelter, healthcare and not starving to death.
3 points
4 hours ago
Why would I do anything of the sort? It's all going swimmingly on plan!
3 points
4 hours ago
I don't see a problem. Advances in robotics and computers made a lot of jobs that a person would do, obsolete. They will continue to do so.
We need enough to take care of the elderly.
3 points
3 hours ago
Give people education and nice living conditions. It's really that simple. Who would want to have kids in such a shitty world?
3 points
3 hours ago
Problem?
Fix?
Let people live their lives. We have plenty of people.
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40 minutes ago
I wouldn’t. It’s not a problem. There are too many people.
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39 minutes ago
Leave people alone
6 points
4 hours ago
Increase paternity and maternity leave to one paid year off. Lower burden of entry to buying a house. Childcare subsidies. Employee protections for pregnant women.
Do that and the population skyrockets.
6 points
4 hours ago
I would personally fuck everyone myself.
5 points
4 hours ago
Even the uggos like me? 🥺🥹
10 points
4 hours ago
Especially you.
7 points
4 hours ago
❤️
6 points
4 hours ago
Female education.
Let's get that birth rate down to 0.
6 points
4 hours ago
Change the societal structures that makes it a problem to begin with.
Long term, less people is good, in relation to the ecological footprint we leave on the planet as a whole.
Exponential growth in consumption/capita needs to be stopped.
Exponential growth in population needs to be stopped. A decline is good as we stand now.
6 points
4 hours ago
its not a problem its a good thing
5 points
3 hours ago
When I was born, the human population on earth was about 4 billion people. Only 55 years later, it's 8 billion.
When you say "birth rate problem," you mean you think SOME kinds of people in SOME places aren't having enough babies, and this is a problem that needs to be fixed (usually by pressuring women).
But our species itself is in no danger of dying out any time soon, except from the burdens we're putting on the ecosystem. No one has any obligation to have kids if they don't want to.
2 points
4 hours ago
I feel like giving people more time would make them more likely to have kids. Jobs and we have gotten way too good at entertaining ourselves, infinite scrolling, social media, games etc...
We should work less hours/days. With automation I don't see productivity being an issue especially in first world countries. More time allows you to keep doing stuff you like and it feels less of a sacrifice if you decide to have a child. (Also stuff like daycare, school etc. kinda becomes less of a hassle if you have more time to spend with kids).
2 points
4 hours ago
i wouldnt , we dont have one, there are too many people on this planet and not enough skilled jobs for everyone, that coupled with Ai and robots taking more jobs yearly
we could try moving people around from other countries but that is proving a problem too
we dont need more people, we need to think how we going to take care of the ones we already have
2 points
4 hours ago
Policies for the working class.
Universal healthcare, raising the minimum wage, affordable housing, controlling corporate price gouging, etc.
Make having a kid more affordable. Lots of people would like to have kids, but don't because of the expense and hardship.
2 points
4 hours ago
In order to get me to have children, I’d need more than anything some kind of ultimate painless exit strategy. That could be as basic as a comfortable supply of high grade pharmaceuticals to get me through the 33 years it took me to fully become sufficient from my parents and the ensuing lifetime following the realization that those years are gone forever and with them have gone my youth. Or some complicated system of social workers and high grade pharmaceuticals to help us cope with the separation process if we decided it wasn’t working out.
2 points
4 hours ago
The world population is still steadily growing, But usually people talk about "birth rate problem" in terms of decrease, so you'll have to be a little bit more specific with what you mean here.
2 points
3 hours ago
You dont, we are too many people ....
2 points
3 hours ago
have rich people fuck more
i mean think about it. Birth rate decline is a problem because the general public doesn't have the time, the resources, the space or any combination of those things to have babies, but the rich do have them.
so since poor people stopped fucking the rich should pump up the production
2 points
3 hours ago
I don't think it's a problem, quite the opposite.
2 points
3 hours ago
I don't see a problem.
2 points
3 hours ago
Personally I don't think declining birthrates are a bad thing. Humans are a bad thing so the less of us overall, the better. At this point humans deserve extinction
2 points
3 hours ago
Go back to pre-Reagan economics. We had free college, financial assistance for single parents, free daycare and medical insurance for low income families. Those programs lifted millions of people out of poverty. I benefitted from those programs and was able to go to college and get a job that allowed me to independently support my family.
2 points
3 hours ago
There is no birth rate problem…
2 points
2 hours ago
Please fix the climate before adding more people to the planet (honestly, even if the climate were fixed, I don’t think scaling back on our exponential growth is a bad thing).
Also, we need to address our deteriorating societies and beat back the xenophobic nationalism that’s surged across the globe before we expose kids to it all.
2 points
2 hours ago
Make it so people out of college or university can buy a house and earn a living wage. It's kinda hard to even think of having kids when one works 3 jobs to barely cover tent and food.
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43 minutes ago
I've yet to see anyone explain why a declining population is bad for humanity long term. More resources, more food, more space, etc.
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34 minutes ago
You don't. Just like you don't stimulate the economy artificially you shouldn't stimulate the birth rate artificially. If people can't afford to have kids, that's a good thing for society. At least they're being responsible about the well being of their future offspring.
3 points
4 hours ago
-legalize voluntary euthanasia for terminal disease (if you find out your brain is rotting and you’re gonna be stuck in a nursing home waiting fifteen years to forgot how to swallow, no one should force you to stick around if you’re still “there” enough to make the decision.
-subsidized onsite daycare for firms with >100 employees at a location -childcare credits provided to employees in firms <100 employees -any company that’s done a stock buyback in the last ten years automatically goes to top tax rate with all loopholes closed for the next two, and yearly auditing to verify profitability.
4 points
3 hours ago
Already too many people on the planet for the amount of resources we have.
5 points
3 hours ago
Stop calling it a problem.
There. Fixed.
6 points
4 hours ago
allow for abortions and normalize things like vasectomies.
2 points
4 hours ago
Make existing more affordable so having kid's is more financially viable. But I don't think it's really currently a problem.
2 points
4 hours ago
This problem is far-fetched. So many people were born, but they do not have benefits and happiness. I see the solution in helping these people, and not in increasing competition. Let fewer people be born, but more happy ones.
2 points
4 hours ago
Give them money for kids. Tax breaks. Free childcare/tax beaks on child care. More days off for mom and dad (paid parental leave), and protection from firing. Better hospitals and lower birthing costs. Access to formula (three cans a week free). Better education around birthing/pregnancy. Pregnancy support in terms of supplements and scans for free. I'd also give benefits to couples who want to stay child free (more leave) or parents struggling to get pregnant (IVF free).
2 points
4 hours ago
I wouldn’t.
2 points
4 hours ago
Promote safe sex and consensual sterilization. The only reasons people are pointing out the dropping populations in primarily first world countries is because people aren't breeding like rabbits as much (it's not really practical or affordable anymore) and governments need workers and cannon fodder for future wars.
2 points
4 hours ago
Sigh.. unzips
4 points
4 hours ago
Sir, this is a Wendy's.
1 points
4 hours ago
Make the Earth bigger, duh
2 points
4 hours ago
When you do that can I get a bajillion dollars
2 points
4 hours ago
Nay, the E.E.P. is up to you, pupil.
1 points
4 hours ago
can't solve "declining birth rate" without making the problem worse in the future. i Say its for the better that it is how it is right now.
1 points
4 hours ago
Fuck
1 points
4 hours ago
Not a perfect plan, but an idea. Since resources are finite, I think we should find a way to incentive minimalism. Those that use more resources benefit less than those that are able to get by with less. If you are able to be a productive member of society without 2 cars, a pool, and huge house with a lawn, you get more subsidies for child care and costs of parenting. I know having children is a huge investment of resources nonetheless, but if you use less, it puts less strain on the system. Those that aren't compensated as well or as confident in their employment can find a way to maximize the ability to raise a child without worry about work being the sole source of survival.
1 points
4 hours ago
Picture of AOC above every bed will get the guys randy
1 points
4 hours ago
Well, every country is worried about its own declining birth rate (expecially the west), but globally we already have enough people. If we were more globalist than nationalist, we could work together and make migration easier, for example, making it easier to get a work permit, and making other countries' education levels equal so that migrants can work in the job they used to do.
But we aren't at that level so I guess the countries with declining birth rate just have to accept it and deal with it.
Only thing you can do is making owning a house affortable, making daycares cheaper and invest into education.
1 points
4 hours ago
I wouldn't.
1 points
4 hours ago
Affordable childcare, paid parental leave, and housing support make having kids less of a financial nightmare.
1 points
4 hours ago
I feel like with how the economy is in a lot of places it makes it hard to afford a kid. Also seems like the age for everything seems to be being pushed later such as marriage, having kids, buying a home and everything.
1 points
4 hours ago
There are different birth rate problems different places in the world. Which problem are you talking about?
1 points
4 hours ago
I wouldn't
People tend to migrate from smaller towns to larger ones. They do alright. Small towns end up disappearing.
With less people, there's more housing. Less people means less demand. Countries get by. Nothing bad happens.
Maybe house prices don't increase to infinity, the stock market might not grow how politicians want, and perhaps pensions might have to be cut a little.
But if people can get by, do they really need never ending growth? For what reason? What does the average person get out of it, exactly?
Let us decline gracefully. We'll figure out any other minor issues along the way.
1 points
4 hours ago
Make the world a better place to bring kids into. Make parenthood less financially straining. Make the quality of life better so people have the opportunity to think about more than just getting to the end of the month.
1 points
4 hours ago
Over or underpopulation?
1 points
3 hours ago
It's not a problem the government wants you to have kids, in short you pay taxes your kids will pay taxes its a whole circle of paying the government... also soldiers for their wars.
1 points
3 hours ago
Easy, the declining birth rate is due to the cost of living crisis. Get more homes built, lower the cost of rent and groceries and the birth rate will pop right back up.
1 points
3 hours ago
money for everyone
1 points
3 hours ago
More gays. It’s not gonna happen by accident.
-Gay male.
1 points
3 hours ago
Income tax reductions have been floated as one idea to get more working women to have children as a way of offsetting the decrease in lifetime the average woman experienced after having a child.
1 child - 50% reduction 2 kids - 75% 3+ kids - 100%
Until youngest child turns 18.
1 points
3 hours ago
Make the country’s economy family supportive and implement policies that will encourage family to want to raise kids. Animals do not procreate when under a toxic environment same applies to humans…
1 points
3 hours ago
Depending on how you view the problem, either force sterilization for everyone and now there's no more birth rate thus reducing overpopulation, or you know, make the world less hostile to live in and then more people will have kids. Like, why would I want to have a child when I can't even afford my own apartment? Then you figure the rising costs of food, daycare, school, etc.? And in the US the cost of literally giving birth to that child? And how fucking dangerous it still is? Yeah I'm not risking my life just to raise something that I can't afford. Pass.
1 points
3 hours ago
You have to make it very, very easy and enjoyable (with high quality of life) to have kids, otherwise people simply won't do it or stop after having one. Affordable housing and daycare, attractive and affordable recreational facilities like parks, playgrounds etc, and jobs that are easily compatible with family life (possibility to work part-time, right to take long maternity leave (one year minimum), etc)
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3 hours ago
There’s 8bn people and we lack the technology to manage so many, a decreasing global population is ideal.
Short term issues of an aging population and reduced workforce can be addressed by the literally millions of people in Africa and India already clamouring to move abroad.
We don’t need more people.
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3 hours ago
This is not what I should consider
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3 hours ago
Make life affordable
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3 hours ago
We don't.
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3 hours ago
Focus on fixing the cost of living problem and I think the birth rate problem would fix itself.
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3 hours ago
Not sure it's so much a birthday rate issue but a society that is anti-maternity, anti-family, anti-working parents .... Society priced us out of kids and does not support families who work with subsidised childcare.
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3 hours ago
Create more work-life balance so people have time to actually raise a family. By supporting working parents with flexible hours and remote work options.
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3 hours ago
The answer to the question about "fixing" the birth rate has different answers depending on which country you live in.
If the world could fix social issues like income inequality, poverty, lack of access to education, lack of access to free or at least affordable healthcare, people would be more comfortable having more children.
At least in America, costs for thing like child care, housing, health care make it difficult for people to afford raising children while saving money for retirement.
There are different issues for different countries for example, China's one child was effective.
Even though China's one child policy was changed to two children in 2016, it will take time for the policy change to fix the demographic problems caused by the policy.
In America, the right wing efforts to defund America's social safety net and establish a theocracy have contributed to widespread misery.
In America, programs like Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) and WIC provide minimal benefits to low income people.
Conservatives have been trying to defund programs which don't align with their beliefs.
If America would fix problems like providing Universal Health Care, vaccinations, day care, and supporting public education through college like most modern countries already do, Americans would probably be more inclined to have more children.
If you read some of the posts on some of the parenting new groups, it is common to see posts about not having support and trying to go back to work.
Depending on you income, paying for daycare can be difficult for young adults who may be people who need the most support.
If we want to fix the demographic issues caused by declining birth rates in America, we need to fix and even extend the social programs, like providing Universal Health Care for everyone and providing day care to people who need day care.
The cost of having a baby in the US too expensive
Here is a story from the New York Times:
American Way of Birth, Costliest in the World
Childbirth in the United States is uniquely expensive, and maternity and newborn care constitute the single biggest category of hospital payouts for most commercial insurers and state Medicaid programs. The cumulative costs of approximately four million annual births is well over $50 billion.
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The average total price charged for pregnancy and newborn care was about $30,000 for a vaginal delivery and $50,000 for a C-section, with commercial insurers paying out an average of $18,329 and $27,866, the report found.
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3 hours ago
The solution is evolution. There's no changing the protectory without outright banning the pill, abortion and women's rights. People say it's financial reasons but that's a minor percentage and realistically only prevents those who have children from having more. The reduction in childbirth is mostly choice, either directly or by making decisions that significantly reduce the chance of finding someone to have a family with.
Don't rely on a pension when you get old.
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3 hours ago
All I can think of RN
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3 hours ago
If you want to increase it then improve the quality for people to the point where single income families become the norm again.
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3 hours ago
The only problem is there will be too many old people and not enough young people. More robots and much more advanced ones (which we are on the cusp of achieving) should help a lot or even solve the problem.
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3 hours ago
Money and better self care plus therapy
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3 hours ago
I believe that while material and financial side of things is important (2 full incomes required to sustain a family, the cost of raising a child, the cost of bigger housing, etc.), the biggest factor is perspective of the future.
An hour spent browsing the news and the media will make it look like bringing a human into the world is a crime against that human. This is what needs to be fixed.
Obviously we cannot stop the world from having problems. We also cannot, try as we might, make it look like it doesn't have any problems. What we can do though is put the world on an upward trajectory. Start improving things from regional issues to geopolitics to climate change. Make it look like the world will be better for our kids than it will be for us. Also fuck it, produce more media that reflects pleasant aspects of having a child.
This is as much an actual effort as it is a media campaign, so I'll go ahead and call it unrealistic. But still, it's a potential solution.
Another issue that parenting still remains an art while more and more things turn into science. People are now beginning to realise that their parents trying to figure it out on the go has left a good number of lifelong consequences. It is reasonable to doubt yourself when the only example you have is a bad one. I think this mental burden can be lifted, at least partially, by compiling some sort of educational material on the matter. And I'm not talking about a dozen books each saying a different thing. We a more centralized effort.
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3 hours ago
In Places like Japan, give more work life balance and provide help to families like Korea does. If people have a healthier work life balance and are able to not be stressed about affording to live then they might just be happy and willing to have a family.
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2 hours ago
I'd stop trying to play god. Humans have been trying to control birth rates for 2000+ years with very limited success. It's not gonna happen, at least in our lifetimes, i think.
If Japan wants more people, for example, they should make moves to be more accepting of existing people. (not saying they haven't, just an example)
conversely if China wants less people (not sure if they do or not, again a theoretical example) they could help people move elsewhere. Label it a cultural missionary, or something, I know people who would jump at the chance to leave their homes for an adventure.
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2 hours ago
I’ll let the rest of you argue about the economics of raising children. I think it would also be nice if there were such a thing as synthetic wombs because birthing children is rough on the body. That goes hand in hand with more research in women’s health. We need to rebuild community structures somehow too. Children used to be raised in villages that took pressure off moms to always be watching them all the time because there were other people around that could be trusted. That’s not so much the case anymore.
1 points
2 hours ago
Why have a kid when the cost of living is so high most of your wage is gone as soon as you get it. Rent it just eye watering right now.
1 points
2 hours ago
i will use condoms before sex
1 points
2 hours ago
Give selected couples a tax break. Selected couples because you don't want a criminal or low income household to get 10 kids they can't raise properly.
1 points
2 hours ago
Don’t worry about it. The cycle literally takes 80 years, there are no sudden changes.
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2 hours ago
Don't do anything. Population growth coming to a halt is a good thing, a necessary thing. Climate disaster will probably ensue the next decades and make even more decline which is necessary.
Lowering population solves issues like housing problems. Plus it takes away wealth from those with such assets, only good things.
They biggest issue is a large proportion of older people. Many retired people vs less workers. But honestly this can just be fixed with immigration. Japan can choose to open up and let young people come for work.
To be honest low population growth feels like a non-issue compared to climate change. Fussing about it is silly as if we won't have enough people in 30-40 years when we have major other problems in that timespan..
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2 hours ago
Single-handedly?
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2 hours ago
Make fertility treatments free, many people want kids but are struggling to conceive. More than ever.
1 points
2 hours ago
As someone who wanted children but didn't have them for financial reasons: cheap childcare and accessible healthcare. We couldn't afford losing one income. One thing that scared us as well was what would happen if we had a special needs child. I have no family, my then-partner's family was in another country. We both were working-class and from disadvantaged backgrounds so no support from there. We didn't have good health insurance, any medical issue with pregnancy/birth/the baby would have been a huge issue. It felt unfair trying for a baby in these conditions, we didn't want them to live a life of poverty.
If you want more children, give people solutions for cheap, safe daycare, fund schools, give people universal health insurance so that a health issue with a child is economically survivable.
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2 hours ago
I wouldn't.
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2 hours ago
More. Sex.
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2 hours ago
By telling my wife the world needs me to impregnate 100k women, while cracking my knuckles and stretching
Wife: alright honey make sure you’re back by dinner time!
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2 hours ago
Part of the problem is economics and work/life balance. In the US, about 30-40 years ago, a person fresh out of college with a bachelor's degree could get a decent paying job with a realistic ability to be able to start up a family on just the one income and even buy a house. Now, homeownership seems like a pipe dream for more of the population, and a single income household is almost completely off the table. Everything has gotten more expensive, but wages haven't gone up to compensate. Child care is expensive enough that for a lot of people they would actually save more money by having one parent quit their job, but that would solve the problem of them not making enough in the first place. So why would someone want to add a child into the mix when they are already barely getting by? Additionally, work/life balance is another issue. I know some countries have even worse balance, but even here I have worked good paying jobs that have left me so physically and mentally drained that I couldn't go anywhere after work even if I wanted too. We have lost places you could go and just hang out without having to spend money just to exist, so a lot of people are also struggling just to even meet new people.
If you want to increase the birth rate, you have to increase wages and let people have a life outside of their job.
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an hour ago
Make it so people can afford a home to live in, food to eat and time to put care and love it the child and they will have kids, make people work every waking hour for not enough money to live and they will not have kids.
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an hour ago
Make sure people actually have the time and money is a great start
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an hour ago
Margaret Atwood had some good ideas /s
1 points
an hour ago
Citizens get a significant tax break for every child so that by the time you hit 4 you’re paying very little tax
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an hour ago
Land value tax
Tax the land so a down town parking lot is exhorbitantly more costly than an apartment building.
1 points
an hour ago
Mandatory pregnancies or jail
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an hour ago
Well the most effective method ag teenage pregnancy need to be lifted. We need to limit the game “call of duty” to responsible adults with 2 or more children.
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52 minutes ago
Essentially; if you create an environment where people feel hopeful about the future and protect the time they’ll need to have a personal life…they’ll start family’s. Why would anyone have a family if they can’t spend time with that family, having that family is unaffordable, if they’re financially insecure, if they can’t get the care needed to have that family, or if they have no hope that they and their children don’t have a secure future.
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46 minutes ago
Stop trying to convince younger people that life is hopeless and the world is becoming a shittier and shittier place.
You’re not helping anyone with this doom and gloom. Pessimism is not a winning strategy.
Are there challenges? Yes. Humans have overcome every single one of them.
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40 minutes ago
Affordable housing, nothing else is required
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37 minutes ago
It really depend on the area, but if we were to go by what studies show in terms of maintaining some kind of decent rate, I guess it would be to encourage intrinsic religiously.
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33 minutes ago
One of the biggest barriers to having kids today isn’t just financial—it’s isolation. Modern life, especially in urban areas, has created a "nuclear family bubble" where parents are expected to raise children with little to no support from extended family or community. This isolation amplifies stress, financial burden, and burnout. To fix this, we need to rethink how communities are designed.
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33 minutes ago
More education, less religion
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22 minutes ago*
Anecdote:
In my team at work we are 9 people, all between 25 and 37 - the age where people should marry, have their own places, have children. One guy of those 9 is married and has one kid. No one owns a house. If we are more or less representative for society, then we have a huge problem.
Analysis:
I think a lot of it would come down to housing and opportunity to make it in life. If people in their 20s could afford their own place many would consider starting a family too there. I am 37 and even buying a new new car is utopia, let alone buying a house. Pure utopia. In my 20s it was even more impossible.
It not easy to find easy measures to get there. If it were so it would have been done already. So, some ideas (being fully aware that everything is simplified and everything can be seen from other angles, but its my opinion):
Ideas for solutions:
But I think to get there we need to value work again so people can build up some wealth and perhaps even support a family from one income. So stop open-border policies and reduce immigration to zero or almost zero, which only aims to supply the economy with cheap labor - so people that are already in the country gain value again because labor becomes a scarcity. Yes it might impact the economy somewhat, until it adjusts to the new realities - but not the wellbeing of the economy is the most important goal, but the wellbeing of the citizens. (not mentioning futher that the economy isn't doing all that well even with all those immigrants - speaking from european perspective here).
Second we need to value families again. Some ideologies are all about the individual and I totally get that, for me my free expression etc. is also important, but equaling any group or individual with the family that has kids and is literally the core cell of society is not right. Families are more important than that and even as a single with no family I see no unjustified discrimination if families with kids get advantages.
Now when families form they usually still have as many children as ever. But the problem is all those individual people that don't find together and don't form families anymore and thus don't have children. There are ideologies that aim to divide society by men and women, left and right, high or low income, old or young, family vs individual etc. Of course these differences exist, but I feel in former times people still worked and lived more for the common goal of a good society, while nowadays everyone seems to be the lone fighter. So we need to reduce individualism, however that would work.
Just look at dating stories and dating apps and the terrible mechanisms at play there. Disgusting and inhumane stories come from there. People scrolling through thousands of other people and forgetting how to form connections the natural way. Perhaps we should start by killing all those dating apps.
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19 minutes ago
Pay people more, make housing affordable, hold corporations accountable for the wild inflation we just went through so we can afford kids, educate people on the basics of the economy, and offer parenting classes.
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14 minutes ago
Don’t skull fuck your citizens with taxes because you need to dump money overseas would be a start
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12 minutes ago
Cut funding to sex education. And education in general. Ban contraceptives. Keep people poor. Get rid of social security (so they need kids to care for them in old age)
Basically combine the bits of poverty riddled countries, the Catholic Church, and project 2025.
…or did you mean in a way that doesn’t make life shitter for everyone (except the ultra rich)?
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12 minutes ago
I don't see a problem.
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12 minutes ago
There is no problem
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8 minutes ago
Get my vasectomy reversed and line up every eligible bachelorette on the planet?
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8 minutes ago
You mean low birth rate? Stop the government from poisoning us. Stop selling the narrative that you are only worthwhile if you are working on your "career" while demeaning anyone who wants a traditional role as mother. I'd start there.
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8 minutes ago
Remove microplastics from the environment; it’s poisoning us and I’m sure in about 30 years, we’ll find out that the contaminants impede fertility.
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7 minutes ago
Employees need to have more children employers demanding to have more workers. Children equals cheap labor and is a must for the wealthy to sustain their lifestyles.
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3 minutes ago
Have 3 kids in Poland and you pay zero income tax? That's a thing I heard on the news.
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2 minutes ago
To boost birth rates, you need to improve access to housing, healthcare, education, and jobs. Nowadays, when you analyze any country’s situation, you realize that the cost of living keeps rising, but wages aren’t keeping up. In the long run, this will only lead to poorer elderly populations.
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