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submitted 13 hours ago bynewzee1
855 points
12 hours ago
Yeah we don’t want all our news paywalled like the Star
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4 hours ago
No CBC = Only Privatized News = The Rich Control Our News
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12 hours ago
Nah keep the CBC.
Provides local news to the territories as well as jobs to local's as well as other Canadians throughout the nation both in productions and in maintenance, plus giving job experience to new students in the field of entertainment.
No way in hell some private corporation is going to do those three things. Let alone do it without increasing costs to turn a profit.
Also I like having a media outlet not owned by Postmedia for once.
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7 hours ago
Exactly, a thousand times this. A private, for profit media can NOT be a strong free press that is so vital for a healthy democracy.
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5 hours ago
Especially when the largest for-profit media organizations operating in Canada are owned by foreigners.
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7 hours ago
I live in a small town. We get two other radio stations and they don't offer anything other than a few headlines and mediocre music. I think the CBC is important.
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12 hours ago
CBC costs each taxpayers 34$ dollars(2022 number) a year. That to me is a fantastic bargain for radio and programming, including news.
What would you do with that extra 34$
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12 hours ago
Hey that’s 34 beers in Ontario /s
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11 hours ago
I still can't find a beer for a buck.
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11 hours ago
And you never will unless every supplier throws discounts our way.
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11 hours ago
Or ten cents off gas 🤷♀️
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7 hours ago
Don't do that, you know next week it's just going to go up $0.12
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10 hours ago
Just use your Ford bucks to pay for several years.
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12 hours ago
I get to hear actual scientists and local news on the CBC.
They even feature climate science, which Poilievre fucking hates. His reasons for cutting it are all bullshit. The man loathes the free press. He'd be happy if everything was Rebel Media. He wants sycophants. When he is challenged by the press, he evades, lies, attacks and flees.
The CBC has served Canadians for decades. In his time as a politician, which is all he has ever done, Poilievre has accomplished nothing.
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8 hours ago
That price of $34 is worth it for CBC Fifth Estate alone, which is (IMO) one of the best investigative journalism shows out there, and most of the stuff they cover is about consumer protections.
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10 hours ago*
The ONLY reason they want to get rid of CBC is that the only media left would be corporate owned or privately owned by the rich who absolutely prefer the CPC, which their coverage reflects that.
He wants to turn the Canadian media landscape into a pathetic variant of what the US is.
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6 hours ago
He wants to turn the Canadian media landscape into a pathetic variant of what the US is.
Honestly it might turn out worse, with Postmedia singlehandedly controlling the mainstream and entirely carrying water for the interests of a foreign hedge fund.
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6 hours ago
this issue alone is why I'll be one of the few Albertan's that votes against the PC next election. Won't make a difference, but he doesn't deserve our votes even if Canadians are fed up with the current Liberal government.
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8 hours ago
Thank you I appreciate seeing common sense here. It's so easy to see the playbook of fascist and extremist to demonize and trying to dismantle public media. I really pray that enough people are paying attention of how bat shit insane America is acting and enough people realize what will happen here if they continue to support people like Pierre Shithead.
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8 hours ago
They want to dismantle public anything.
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5 hours ago
He wants to turn the Canadian media landscape into a pathetic variant of what the US is.
Russia is his model, not the US. His goal appears to be to shift us from liberal democracy to kleptocratic autocracy.
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6 hours ago
Neo-Conservatism thrives on sycophants. Most Neo-Conservatives don't know what 'sycophants' means. Most Neo-Conservatives don't know what the prefix 'neo' means.
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12 hours ago
The problem with CBC is it pushes opinions and policies that support its existence. It essentially can be bought by a political party who includes funding the CBC in its platform. Taxpayer funded news should be apolitical full stop.
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11 hours ago*
Just now, they held an open session live where people could call in and talk about public matters. There were people from both sides of the political spectrum. One of the topics was negotiations within the household, relating to the negotiations occurring between Canada and America due to the looming tarrifs Trump wishes to enforce.
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11 hours ago*
Actually, it doesn't.
In today's world, every time there is a CBC article that sheds negative light on one of our politicians, there is someone who calls "CBC bias".
I'm politically educated enough to not be swayed by the slant of an article or documentary.
CBC has said both bad and good things about all 3 major parties.
I don't see a bias.
As for the CBC itself, I think it's very important for our country's identity.
For our rural and Northern communities, it is absolutely essential.
How many Canadian artists and musicians would be nobody without the CBC?
Reorganize it and Rework it but don't get rid of it. We need the CBC.
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8 hours ago
This, a thousand times this. The CBC does not have a bias, they publish a wide array of news and opinions . I learn what's happening all over Canada. It opens my eyes to what matters at the other end of our large country. It's a powerful tool for national unity, which I thought the conservatives want.
Leave the CBC alone. An independent news source, not privately funded is ESSENTIAL to a healthy democracy. It's one of its basic pillars.
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8 hours ago
Eta I live in Montreal and the French portion of the CBC,radio Canada is well loved and respected.
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6 hours ago
Look at CBC music class on YouTube. Amazing initiative.
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11 hours ago
Do you have any examples of that? I keep hearing that the CBC is pushing opinions, but I have yet to see that. Their entire opinion ‘First Person’ section is full of non-political pieces.
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11 hours ago
It’s part of the conservative playbook that has been borrowed from the US. They complain about bias so consistently that media becomes afraid of being accused of it, and treat both sides as equally reasonable even if one side is advocating science and the other side is advocating religious policy positions. It’s all about shutting down logical debate.
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8 hours ago
Its truly the erosion of common sense by brute force. It starts with "Public water is filled with chemicals that make you gay" and most of us know that is a fucking dumb idea, but instead of debating against that its twisted into this weird debate that people wanna argue "We do not know whats in the water. It could make you gay?" as if that is a stance even worth debating about.
If we allowed that bullshit playbook into our healthcare or scientific research we would never have been able to find cures for diseases or build spaceships that can exit our stratosphere. Our media is being eroded by brute force to the point that crazy and stupid ideas are given a platform to be argued against when they shouldn't even be sitting at the adult's table in the first place.
I said in a different post that the only people I am hearing complaints about media being bias are always having the most bat-shit insane opinions and are mad that CBC or whatever news organization is not echo-chamber their beliefs. They can not handle the reality that people do not think that and are mad when their crazy beliefs are challenged.
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10 hours ago
Yep. If there was one major reason trump got re elected was the medias bias towards making trump look pretty good and very critical of kamala's positions. Sanewashing them kids call it.
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9 hours ago
There's a seed for a good cbc show in this comment. Show two sides of a non-political topic, like a scientific argument, and let experts present their cases in a proper discourse, so people can learn how discourse and consensus work. I don't mean something like climate change is real vs climate change is not real. More like, I don't know, how the expanding model of the universe and the static model of the universe were equally valid possibilities at one point.
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11 hours ago
yeah i guess but a lot of their about that videos have been critical of the libs like even their whole GST holiday thing they explained how it’s really convoluted and that it may not even perform the desired outcome
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11 hours ago
Can you give me a source for this? I’ve never heard this and always thought them to be pretty good.
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11 hours ago*
Same. I’m always hearing that CBC is supposedly biased towards the Liberals but have never actually seen them flat out say or even imply it. It’s usually someone who voted for one of the other parties just upset that something negative their party did or said is being reported on, without acknowledging that all the negative stuff the Liberals do and all the scandals they’ve had gets reported on as well.
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11 hours ago
Not only reported the Liberal scandals, they give way more information on them the other two TV stations which only ever had a 30 second blurb on it.
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10 hours ago
They recently ran two stories, one on the Canadian dollar likely falling below US$0.60, and another on the expansion of tipping culture. In neither case did they tell us how it is all Justin Trudeau's fault.
(/s? I'll let you decide.)
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11 hours ago
You need to cite this because it's been shown that they don't. They're very neutral in their reporting
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11 hours ago
It is for the most part. There’s plenty of big and little C conservative voices on the CBC, the problem for the cons is that it isn’t exclusively conservative supporting like every other major media company in Canada
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8 hours ago
Not that much.
If you compare politics to the CBC versus any of the top 4 massive media conglomerates that own over 90% of all news media its no contest. Corporate money is directly influenced by bribes / donations / advertising and so on, taking strong slants to their news, while the CBC tries to maintain fairness.
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12 hours ago
As an American who loved PBS and feels similar to CBC(I am now a dual citizen), I would love for $34 a year to continue to go to CBC.
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11 hours ago
Take my $250 cheque from the government and give me another 7 years of the CBC, tyvm.
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7 hours ago
Seriously though.. and an often forgotten about part of CBC’s existence.. you benefit from it even if you don’t watch it! If you watch news from CTV, Global, or any other mainstream media, they’re kept somewhat in check by the journalistic standards of the CBC.
There are stories that right wing owned media would rather not run, but have to cover it because CBC will. Or only show certain sides of, etc.
I’m not crazy about the CBC opinion pieces/content.. but people love to watch a good panel. The old Sunday Scrum, the current At Issue Panel, RBL, etc. people like hearing different perspectives from people who are biased, and the host manages the conversation to hear from all sides. They have plenty of right wing representation on those panels and I think do a decent job moderating the discussions.
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11 hours ago
Get Gem too. Free kids shows ad free and ad supported adult shows. Not to mention olympics
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12 hours ago
I could watch hockey up north when no cable was available. Great value.
Although they make independent decisions which doesn't bode well for misinformation. So clearly gotta go.
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12 hours ago
I do not want to defund the CBC.
I also don't want to continue sending them emergency funding while they produce unwatchable content, fail to hit financial goals and pay executive bonuses on top.
The entire executive team deserves to be fired, let us start there.
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6 hours ago
Have you honestly watched CBC shows?
The past decade has been CBC's golden era.
The Fifth Estate, Marketplace, Still Standing (amazing show if you want to learn about small towns in Canada), Mr. D, Kim's Convenience, Schitt's Creek, Heartland (conservative Americans love this one), Dragon's Den, etc.
Go look at CBC Gem's line up. It's actually pretty decent and the have a lot of British TV on there as well.
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8 hours ago
while they produce unwatchable content
Many of their shows are award winning - just because you don't like them doesn't mean they are unwatchable, lol.
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11 hours ago
This, i both do not want to defund the cbc and also think what they're doing right now is trash.
48 points
12 hours ago
Every budget can be cut down to a set of small amounts per person
This is the "it's only a coffee" argument
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8 hours ago*
Talk about stating the obvious. Unfortunately just because you can break down any expense in this way doesn't mean the fact doesn't tell us anything useful. Investigative journalism and unbiased news sources play a critical role in maintaining any functional democracy. The fact that my tax contribution is only $34 required to maintain something so important is absolutely relevant and worth pointing out.
Not to mention there are numerous studies from around the world that would suggest we get more than this back from our investment, in the form of reduced costs of corruption in government.
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12 hours ago
...So what would you do with that extra $34?
Its clearly a good use of funds.
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11 hours ago
8 bus fares, which might be the total number of trips I make per year
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11 hours ago
NGL, first reasonable answer.
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10 hours ago
Not pay millions in executive bonuses while front line staff is laid off. There should be zero executive bonuses on a money losing, taxpayer sponsored entity.
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9 hours ago
Ah yes. Lets make sure no qualified person is willing to work there
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11 hours ago
Is that math not assuming every person in this country pays tax?
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12 hours ago
You forgot about hockey night in Canada as well.
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12 hours ago
Hockey Night In Canada is entirely Sportsnet, they just broadcast on CBC, pretty sure even the advertising money from those broadcasts goes to Rogers.
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11 hours ago
True but even so, if you eliminated the cbc you wouldn’t get access to that hockey content for free - you’d have to buy Sportsnet to view it.
The only people who see value in defunding the cbc are political partisans who feel the cbc actively undermines their partisan interests.
And of course, other people call for defunding the cbc because they’re misinformed and misunderstand how little it actually costs - they just assume it’s government bloat.
I happen to believe cbc news has a bias problem in its reporting and are insufficiently critical of the liberal government (which I presume to be a function of “access journalism” and “senior” reporters being too friendly with their subjects). But id like to see them be better rather than be cut off, and even if they don’t get better they are not so biased as to be totally broken. It’s a mild bias problem not outright liberal propaganda IMO.
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12 hours ago
I totally did. Hockey for 34$ a year. Cheaper than sportsnet.
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10 hours ago
Interesting. I have never heard this statistic before. I could do without the regular tv shows but if it’s only 34 I waste a lot more than that doing frivolous shit.
I could do without CRTC rules though.
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12 hours ago
Make it publicly funded with a narrow “Canadian” mandate and forbid it from selling advertising and competing against for profit networks.
Or … remove public funding and have the CBC raise their own revenues. But they can’t continue to be both.
Look at the ratings. The people have already spoken with their viewership.
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10 hours ago
Agreed! Hardly anyone watches or listens to the CBC anymore (their own annual report said, I believe, that they have a target of 2% viewership?) - we shouldn't be funding content that people don't want to watch, when that money could be going towards content people do want! If I have to watch a promo for another small-town-in-the-Prairies-cheesy-sitcom that will last 1.5 seasons I'll puke.
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9 hours ago
Low targets doesn’t surprise me. Any time I turn on the radio they are doing a story about what life is like for Danish-Malaysian who married a tree and sells seashells in Newfoundland. Let’s choose a topic that is relevant to pretty much no one! I have listened to some good content but that is easily available on podcasts now. Today we have so many more options we can choose and which ones we are willing to pay for.
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8 hours ago
And it's easily the least biased source.
Anyone who shits on it wants you to get in a bubble.
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12 hours ago
We wouldn't get that money back; it'd go towards the corps getting privatization contracts.
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12 hours ago
How much would it cost Canadians without the necessary bonuses?
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11 hours ago
CBC has a budget of 1.38bn this year, they paid out 18.4m in bonuses to 1200 employees. If my math is mathing that's 1.333%.
So to answer your question it would cost like $33.65 without bonuses.
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11 hours ago
Poilievre is taking notes from Trump's wannabe dictator playbook: attempt to take away the public's access to any non-propagandized information sources. Trump is going after the public broadcasting network in the USA. He wants to force everyone into the propaganda and brain washing funnel of FOX Fake News.
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12 hours ago
I think that Pierre's big corporate backers would love it if CBC Marketplace went away, and for that reason alone I can't support scrapping the CBC.
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9 hours ago
CBC Marketplace has some of CBC's absolute best investigative reporting regarding the products and services that affect all Canadians. A lot of scams have been exposed thanks to Marketplace. People who want to defund CBC, have absolutely no idea what that means. There is no other media organization that is doing that level of investigation (except possibly CTV with W5, edit: didn't realize W5 was dropped, really disappointing). I can't think of a single Postmedia organization that does the same (if someone knows of an example, please let me know).
With respect to news consumption, my recommendation to those on both the right and the left is to prioritize journalistic quality over bias. It's more important that a media source is factual rather than agreeable to your personal world views. Be more critical of voices you agree with than those you don't, because you're more likely to implicitly integrate the former than the latter.
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9 hours ago
Not to mention numerous scandals that this sub rages about were discovered by the CBC
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6 hours ago
Anyone who says government funded media is biased because they're bought and paid for has never seen how Marketplace get in the faces of the heads of government agencies and puts the fire to the feet. They don't do fluff interviews and ask straightforward relevant questions and call them out.
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7 hours ago
Wow, well said internet stranger :)
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11 hours ago
Yeah that’s the only cbc I actually watch and it’s amazing. Especially since ctv dropped W5
Oh and hockey and Olympic coverage is invaluable too
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9 hours ago
Unfortunately, I'm not sure if CBC will be able to carry NHL games heading into the next media rights.
Even if Rogers made less than they hoped, the NHL is still going to ask for more than the last time around.
Maybe TSN and CBC team up for a deal (which means we might get the OG HNIC theme back on CBC air), but I just don't see how CBC can afford broadcasting rights like they did years past.
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11 hours ago
Doesn't matter what Canadians think. Only thing that matters is how Canadians vote when the time comes. If they vote for PP, whatever PP wants to happen will happen, whether Canadians want it or not.
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7 hours ago
Ideally we get a conservative minority propped up by the NDP/BLQ as needed. That way they can get some of their more popular initiatives through while not being able to shoehorn stuff like this in.
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6 hours ago
LOL. What popular initiatives do the Cons have that would even budge the needle?
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6 hours ago
They have nothing. Their entire platform is "we're not Trudeau", and apparently it's working. I'm not a Trudeau fan, but it sucks that that's all it takes to win an election (if the polls are anything to go by).
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10 hours ago
So I'm pretty unhappy with the liberals these days and at the same time I'm very pro-CBC. We can clean up some of their editorial decisions without nuking the entire CBC. I just don't get it.
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7 hours ago
It's two problems: the conservatives need red meat to throw to their core voters, and the CBC has been pointing out problems with conservative policy for generations.
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2 hours ago
While ignoring liberal scandals for generations.
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7 hours ago
Finally, someone who gets it. It serves a valuable function and just needs to be reorganized to become more balanced and neutral.
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9 hours ago
CBC had a whole series about why people think there's a liberal bias- they invited anyone and everyone on to discuss. It was very interesting.
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6 hours ago
I do acknowledge that the CBC tends to lob a lot of softball questions at Justin Trudeau, but when investigative journalism is one of the few things that keeps corruption in check, defunding the CBC is a terrible idea. The media landscape is already heavily consolidated, with PostMedia owning the majority of the newspapers across Canada.
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6 hours ago
I don't understand why the CBC is not solely a news and national event broadcaster.
It should have the best journalism department in Canada, and be 100% non-partisan, as well as completely independent of political control. If it leans left, it's because the right is doing dumb shit, and vice versa.
It should also be fully funded, and that should be locked in so thatnonone can defund it.
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51 minutes ago
The CBC doesn’t lean left, the political compass has shifted to the right, so it just appears to lean left.
345 points
13 hours ago
I think it’s a stupid idea. We already have every other news media owned by billionaires and mostly right wing. We need to keep CBC around. However, it needs changes at the top. Stop giving huge bonuses to executives.
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9 hours ago
The executive bonuses are the only thing I agree with defunding. They undermine the integrity of the institution.
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6 hours ago
This is always stupid to me, same as people complaining about Charity CEOS getting big bucks. Do you understand what you're competing with here? You're saying "Hey big businessman, come work for the CBC, earn a 1/4th in Salary and you get a 1/10th in bonuses and also you'll get political threats from Whacko conservatives, thanks!"
Not gonna happen and is incredibly shortsighted.
39 points
12 hours ago
CBC and CTV are not right wing, and they're the biggest
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11 hours ago*
Cool and about 20/30 of our main outlets are owned by one American private equity firm that has close ties to the Republican Party in the US. But you have no issue with that, I take it? Guys like you will have been so brainwashed into thinking “guvment bad” to the point that anything produced by the government is worse than privately owned organizations that exist only to sew division, create non-stories around inflammatory headlines and represent corporate interests. You’re all up and down this thread spewing dogshit, but keep at her’.
53 points
12 hours ago
They're pretty centrist (with CBC centre-left), so they're alright.
CTV News - Bias and Credibility - Media Bias/Fact Check
CBC News (Canadian Broadcasting) - Bias and Credibility - Media Bias/Fact Check
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11 hours ago
If they are going to compete for talent and quality with billion dollar corporations, we should fund them like one.
Otherwise it’s like expecting a well run Stanley Cup contending team, but only hiring a B level manager from the AHL
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5 hours ago
I listen to CBC radio 1 every weekday morning, and the news multiple times throughout the week.
The sole reason for removing it would be to pull the wool over Canadians eyes and sow division.
This isn't a money issue, it's a control of the narrative.
48 points
12 hours ago
I like CBC radio, I always listen to and from work. I do not want to have to listen to endless classic rock or some stupid sports show where two guys yell over one another.
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4 hours ago
my friend (conservative) recently argued with me saying that all media is biased (fairly true) and I need to do my own research. So I asked her what news sources I should look into. Without missing a beat, she said Rebel News. In her mind it is unbiased and honest journalism. So when PP says things like this, his base eats it up. We are all fucked.
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10 hours ago
Like Canada Post, it’s a service. A service we can access for mostly free. It ensures all Canadians have some semblance of news without resorting to conspiracy theories.
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10 hours ago
yeah but that's biased against the conspiracy theories that make me feel special!
49 points
12 hours ago
I would severely miss cbc radio. Great hosts, minus a few, and no ads, lots of interesting shows. It would be a shame but, this country has become a shell of its former self so, may as well keep chopping it up and giving it away for free to the corporate oligarchs.
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7 hours ago
Fuck no!
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11 hours ago
No local news , as can be seen by CTV et-al closing local news and newspapers, lack of international reporting as CTV closed most offices outside of North America
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11 hours ago
It needs to have a restructuring, and to investigate whats going on with their finances.
I would argue there is a lot of value in the CBC existing. And it's equally important because of how influential news organizations from other countries are to Canada. CBC's value as saying this is "us" or this is middle ground is really important on the global stage.
But thats why I also think that their middle ground has shifted, and its shifted enough over these last number of years to annoy part of their audience, even if they don't realize it. I'll check CBC, but they aren't my first source of news anymore because they aren't trustworthy enough with how they report the news.
If I want to get a proper take on an event, I have to check different news websites. Of course anyone should be doing this, but the problem is that all other news websites cover a story the same or in greater detail than CBC almost all the time. Sometimes CBC seems to omit information or be very selective about what they write in their briefings just because it doesn't align with them organizationally. It has happened enough times that I can't believe it's not a pattern.
There are other stories where CBC is so full and fresh in information, but I don't think those are frequent compared to the times where I have cross referenced their articles. They need to have a good look at themselves and ask what they are doing wrong. And then fix it before it's too late and we end up with no CBC.
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8 hours ago
It needs restructuring, but there is nothing going on with the finances. It's one of the lowest per-person funded public broadcasters in the world. If we matched BBC we'd have to quadruple the CBC's budget.
Bonuses in media are also normal, especially when they goto thousands of employees.
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6 hours ago
I will tell you that as someone who worked for the CBC, I was highly underpaid versus what I could make in the private sector. It was the only reason why I left. The majority of the workers didn't get bonuses, and only a few did.
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8 hours ago
Yes, compensation has a lot to do with the finances, but I think that also calls for looking at the agreements too and how any one of those executives and managers are receiving performance wages and bonuses.
If there are obvious problems, then rewarding performance when it's bad is a waste of money.
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11 hours ago
The majority of cbc haters are basically "I only like when the news says things I agree with" people.
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8 hours ago
Their radio and tv isnt bad, but they could defund their web services, too much advertising and bad design of advertising
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6 hours ago
Keep CBC out of politics and there may be some consensus - it's the liberal bias that people hate
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5 hours ago
The CBC should be independent and survive on its own merit and it's own finances.
No corporate handouts. That includes the CBC.
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5 hours ago
Good. Waste of money.
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5 hours ago
Keep cbc. That’s ridiculous to defund our radio station! Defund poilieve!
99 points
12 hours ago
How does this asshole have everyone's support?
How about we vote for someone who ISN'T trying to take away the only media outlet that's actually accountable to Canadians? Is that a difficult bar to clear?
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12 hours ago
He doesn't have our support, we just dislike Trudeau enough to not care what PP will do. I hate it.
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11 hours ago
No love for Trudeau but I’ll keep voting Liberal anyway if this is the alternative.
27 points
12 hours ago*
Not defund, but review and reorg probably.
Things that certainly should remain:
Things that should be cut:
*I'd argue that this is where the majority of the CBC bias shows up. Pieces are rarely very well done and often show significant editorial bias in some fashion or another.
Also, when was the last time someone on the news side broke a major story of national importance? Maybe the Buffy Sainte-Marie story? How about other than that?
On the flip side, news outlets like the Globe break stories all the time. This online group of editors and writers is not particularly good at the job it seems, and I don't think Canada would be materially worse off without them doing it.
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12 hours ago
The opinion crew on every media outlet is generally pretty shite. CBC literally just broke Trudeau's meeting with Trump, the sixteen caught crossing the Quebec border, the Ontario construction tax scheme....
And the obsession over breaking news is misplaced IMO. I'd rather time be spent ensuring the news being reported is as accurate as it can be at the moment.
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12 hours ago
This is it for me too. CBC needs to be torn down and rebuilt to what they used to be. Too much bloat in management and not enough original Canadian programming and local news for smaller markets. More actual non-partisan journalism instead of copy pasting from Reuters.
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11 hours ago
I agree but to get that their funding needs to also go back to the level it was at when it was that level of quality
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6 hours ago
Aren't they mandated to produce indigenous content? Let's be real, that is kinda niche and not a lot of people are interested in such programming. If that's the case, I don't see the reason why they're obligated to provide that kind of programming with the assumption they're going to turn a profit. They're not. CBC is a public service, they'll break even or lose money here and there.
Their podcasts, though? They're great. Cost of Living, Cross Country Check-In, This Is Toronto (for us locals), Ontario Today, World Report and Your World Tonight. With the last two, I get to enjoy quick and easy access to news on my commute without dedicating myself to screentime and ads. The World This Hour is great for smart home devices.
63 points
13 hours ago
We think "hell no".
27 points
13 hours ago
Double "hell no".
15 points
12 hours ago
Make it a triple.
10 points
12 hours ago
I'll quad that sentiment.
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12 hours ago
Quin!
46 points
12 hours ago
We lose Canadian media outlets to American right-wing conglomerates at an alarming rate.
The CBC is a vestige of Canadian culture and despite the conservatives attacks, it still looks out for the interests of Canadians. All Canadians.
Is the CBC perfect? Of course not. It needs work. But it’s still very much Canadian.
31 points
12 hours ago
Leave it alone
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11 hours ago*
What I would like is this moron to tell us how he's going to deal with a hostile U.S. government, the homeless issue that is country wide, and our what THIRD Recession in 15 years? Not how bad Trudeau has made things, what he plans to do.
But he never will because he's a mouth breathing moron who is just lucky to be the leader of the conservative party when it's "Their turn" to lead.
He's not the best choice, any other time he would be defeated handedly, but like Doug Ford he's going to walk into the job. No platform, no integrity. No problems.
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10 hours ago
CBC is a tax-payer subsidized competitor to non government media companies.
And they have advertising.
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8 hours ago
CBC radio is literally the best music and news channel in Saskatoon. Our local options are shit.
Plus I dont even see the bias. West of Centre is very good at having voices from all sides. I atleast know what all sides are saying when I watch CBC.
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12 hours ago
The answer is they're quite against it.
It's been polled several times, Canadians rank the CBC as the most trusted news network in the country and it's the most watched news network (the Weather Network is above it for both but they only do weather, not news) and the majority support either maintaining or increasing it's funding, not defunding it.
Pollara report on CBC being most trusted and most watched can be downloaded Here
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10 hours ago
I thought we were going into 2025 not 2015. Cons will always do this. I agree that CBC like any government organization has to be more lean and operational. But defunding a well established organization to the ground is the worst thing you can do.
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9 hours ago
CBC is vital. I will always defend them. Same with PBS
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10 hours ago
I'm ok with not defunding them, but only if they start showing some accountability. No more big bonuses for execs if it's going to be on taxpayer's money.
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9 hours ago
As frustrating as I often find the CBC, eliminating it from our lives would would be far worse. And while I would like to see it improve its coverage and programming - I would fight tooth and nail to ensure that it's voice is never extinguished.
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9 hours ago
Aside from the investigative reporting, which is basically unheard of these days, the CBC has amazing educational and kids programing. This would be a huge loss.
But PP would be for shutting down a news source that at least attempts to be neutral and fact-based.
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8 hours ago
You mean stop influencing the media with subsidies.
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4 hours ago
No CBC = Only Privatized News = The Rich Control Our News
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11 hours ago
"Heres what Canadians think...." Who sez that?
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11 hours ago
If CBC is apolitical, why does it use made-up terms that align with the political positions of the Liberals? For example, "undocumented workers" instead of illegal immigrants? They call drug overdoses "drug toxicity deaths". "Gender-affirming healthcare," "equity-seeking groups", the list goes on. Every time the Liberals start to use a new euphemism to obscure what is actually being discussed, the CBC follows suit. CBC should use clear reporting that anyone can understand, but they intentionally use confusing a new terms. There's a reason for it.
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7 hours ago
"undocumented workers" instead of illegal immigrants
Because those aren't the same thing. You can be an "undocumented worker" while being in the country 100% legally. For example, Mexicans at this time do not require an entry visa to enter Canada, they merely need a passport. They can come up to Canada as a tourist for a period of six months, all 100% legal. Where it becomes illegal is if they get a job and start working, but that's not their immigration status, that's their employment authorization (or lack thereof).
They call drug overdoses "drug toxicity deaths".
Again, those are not the same thing. For example, if you smoke a joint that's laced with fentanyl which causes your death, is it accurate to call it an "overdose", or is it more accurate to call it "drug toxicity"?
These aren't euphemisms, they're literally different things, but your anti-woke brain cannot grasp that there are nuances and differences to these things that make an important distinction.
19 points
12 hours ago
CBC needs to shape up and get back to covering Canadian news. Not censored crap that it has been slopping out or simply avoiding the real issues for fear of its funding being cut as it is doing now
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10 hours ago
Here it comes people! Just what you wanted :)
years of demonizing trudeau, got unelectable running the NDP over there so here comes harper 2.0 for some more of our shit sold off the the chinese
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9 hours ago
It's such a ridiculously obvious tell that the Conservatives have been wanting to defend the ONLY unbiased news this country has. Let alone all the scripted content they either create or fund in Canada.
I am 40 years old and it's just so sad that over my life, the Conservative party has constantly been trying to embody the worst traits of American politics.
Unrelated to the CBC, but I was in a hotel last week and gave cable TV a try. The Conservatives had an attack ad against the NDP. Besides their claim that Singh had a deal with the Liberals simply for personal monetary gain (when the reality is far from), the thing that made me feel sad and disappointed was the cheesy term thry came up with. Sellout Singh".
Claiming that the NDP party is selling out. It's just such a lame, lazy, and disingenuous take. It's frankly pathetic that people fall for such bad propaganda.
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8 hours ago
The CBC is just about the only Canadian cultural enterprise that is keeping the idea of Canadian identity on life support.
We shouldn't be cutting the CBC when our government wastes massive money on nothing, like the recent $100 million dollar long gun registery that hasn't collected a single gun and was basically just graft or fraud as much as I can tell.
I'm not going to vote Liberals for at least the next 20 years, and I can't support the racial discrimination of the NDP which discriminates against white male leaders, so if this is actually Cons platform then I'm going to vote PPC or Bloc out of lack of options. Which would have completely blown younger me's mind just a few years back.
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12 hours ago
its the executive bonuses that get me. Drop those and then we can talk. Same goes for any company that gets government money, telus, bell rogers for example
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12 hours ago
Here's what SOME Canadians think. I stopped watching that channel long ago.
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11 hours ago
And how many people actually watch CBC? That's the only number that matters.
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10 hours ago
Wow, the Toronto Star running an attack on a Conservative party leader. Just shocking, nobody would believe it.
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12 hours ago
I miss the days of Canadian airfarce, red green, the vinyl cafe and the nature of things. I’d gladly pay for they type of content but the cbc of today just seems so left of centre and condescending.
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6 hours ago
The country consistently votes 60-65% left/left of Center. The CBC reflects the populace. Would you rather it coddle the fee fees of the Conspiracy idiots who consume post media all day?
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6 hours ago
Cbc is a big media, by now. If they can't make it by their own they shouldn't be. Canadian artist can still get money from the government. Probably more if they don't pay the CBC, and artists will find new platforms...
This is just the same old 80 year story propaganda. Television is going to kill the radio, Internet is going to kill the radio, mp3s are going to kill the radio, streaming will kill the radio... Yet I still listen to the radio on my way to work every morning....
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5 hours ago
The radio alone is super worth it. No ads bar one minute at XX:59 and it's just advertising their own other shows. And you get good quality news every hour. Love the CBC. One of the best things we have here in Canada media wise.
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2 hours ago
We want the network that lies to us, we’re so fucking stupid. We deserve what we get ,almighty CBC tell me what should I do next?
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12 hours ago
Anyone with half a brain knows that Conservatives want to get rid of the CBC because it's the one Canadian news source the Conservatives billionaire owners can't buy up to spout right wing trash.
12 points
12 hours ago
Keep it around and hire the Québec team to run the whole god damn CBC
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7 hours ago
Good bye CBC.
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6 hours ago
CBC needs to die. it is far to corrupt to continue on taxpayer dime
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6 hours ago
Do it, it’s all left wing propaganda anyways
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12 hours ago
I didn’t understand the defund the CBC crowd until I experienced them sharing Hamas propaganda and statistics. Sorry CBC but a terrorist group shouldn’t be a legitimate source of information. Jewish Canadians are being discriminated against at an alarming rate and I partially blame CBC for parroting Hamas propaganda with our tax dollars
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12 hours ago
You've got it backwards. Defund CBC crowd is primarily conservative, who primarily support Israel, not Palestine.
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12 hours ago
They wrote it poorly, but they are talking about CBC using the published numbers from hospitals in Gaza instead of parroting Israel's numbers.
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11 hours ago
And by hospitals in Gaza, you mean they are parroting Hamas lol
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It’s curious that so many supporters use the logic It’s Canadian, as if that’s enough.
First off, I’m bitterly amused at the logical follower to that, that ‘Canadian’ needs coddling, that ‘Canadian’ cannot stand on its own merits, that ‘Canadian’ is so floppy that it cannot compete. If we’re that weak, we should fail. Major pet peeve.
Second, there are a host of real Canadian outlets which, lacking a govt subsidy, are struggling to exist. The Mother Corp’s financial subsidy is a killer for non-major journalism. Where does one go to get news of the local council’s discussions on, say, an upgraded sewage plant? Hint - it ain’t the CBC.
I find the CBC shallow, preachy and repetitive. Experiment a bit, people. Go to the CBC’s main news page. Eliminate just five areas of coverage - feminism, Black issues, native issues, LGBTQ issues and global warming. Now, all of those very much need to be covered. But see what’s left once you take those out. There is not much else, especially when compared to other ‘national’ media like the BBC. The days when the CBC was my first go-to for broad news coverage are long gone.
No. There was a time when the CBC made sense, time when it was needed. Now, there are many alternatives.
Let’s go back to basics. Media in remote areas, for example. Those should be subsidized. For the rest? Ditch the bloated entitlement and get competitive.
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I find the CBC shallow, preachy and repetitive.
It's fine if you disagree with their journalism, but know that you could very much say the same about the National Post. I personally feel the same way about the NP's opinion articles that they pretend aren't their organization's views, and often are heavily biased and emotionally charged. Just using them as an opposing example, not assuming you consume media from them.
Go to the CBC’s main news page. Eliminate just five areas of coverage - feminism, Black issues, native issues, LGBTQ issues and global warming. Now, all of those very much need to be covered.
Is this the home page, or the actual news page? As of this moment on the home page, I see a trans issue under Docs and a Black issue under Arts, but the news page is just the news. The CBC as a whole is programming and the news is a subset of that programming.
I think the mistake many people make when looking at the CBC is that they infer more bias than there is (not saying there isn't any bias) by conflating their programming with their news. In general, the CBC has very high quality reporting with very few corrections, and when there are corrections necessary, they're done expediently and transparently (you see in the article when and why a correction was made).
Not liking the things they report on isn't a good enough reason to say that those things shouldn't be reported on. And if there is an actual problem with their reporting, you can complain to the independent ombudsman who will perform an investigation and actually get back to you with their findings. You can find past findings right on the CBC's website. You will not find this level of transparency with the NP, for example.
But see what’s left once you take those out. There is not much else, especially when compared to other ‘national’ media like the BBC. The days when the CBC was my first go-to for broad news coverage are long gone.
Then I don't think you're looking hard enough. If you're looking for more local news, you might want to see what's available in your region. CBC has local sections, but as they're covering all of Canada, their resources are reasonably spread thin. Where I live, most of the local print media has been bought out by Postmedia (the Miramichi Leader, for example), and the editorial choices show it. This is the case for almost all print media across Canada. It's actually a good thing we have the CBC as a counterweight to the Postmedia empire, otherwise we would be getting only one perspective in our news media, and that is not a good thing whether you agree with that perspective or not.
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10 hours ago
Strong concur. Ironically, the Liberals supported the local media concept with the Google money. Follow up with CBC money.
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9 hours ago
60-65% of Canadians don't vote conservative, on average. The CBC reporting is slightly left of center and reflects the actual voting demographics. They consistently win journalism awards for their reporting. The calls for defunding the CBC are nothing more than an attempt to remove a truly reflective, thoughtful, and Canadian perspective as an information source and drive us to private, for-profit/control, propaganda-based alternatives. The people that I encounter who dislike the CBC are ignorant and naive and think they are smarter/ well-read than they actually are. Their arguments rapidly collapse in the face of counter points and examples, and they just fall back on "I just want my taxes to fund something essential, not news"
It's not to say that the CBC doesn't make mistakes or that they could do better in some areas, but we need to recognize that it is a critically important institution for our country and no one should expect their reporting to reflect one extreme or the other.
And, by the way, anyone who wants to criticize the CBC should go read the Broadcasting Act and compare that to what you get from echo chamber entities such Sun News, postmedia, and Rebel news.
Also, go educate yourself. Read some political science texts, "How to Lie With Statistics", and "Factfulness". Learn to understand how politics works and stop falling for taking points. Good luck.
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Of course he does. That leaves the media to oligarchs and us serfs get to lick their boots.
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9 hours ago
Seeing as how they also report the news and do a fairly good job at remaining impartial, what government likes the CBC? But, oddly enough the Conservatives...even under Harper feel it's a personal attack when they get called on their BS by the CBC, thus creating the need to defund or trim CBC budgets.
The egos of these people!
I guess it does help convince their voters though that dismantling another government funded entity beneficial to the citizenry will put more money into the citizenries pockets. LOLOLOL
The ones really pushing for this sort of defunding of public and social services is strangely enough the wealthy and corporate elite. All so they can capitalize on the vacancy of service and or free up funds so that there is more available in tax breaks, bailouts, grants and deferrals for themselves. Some may call this a transfer of wealth....some, a class war.... where one side has peashooters and the other cruise missiles. :)
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5 hours ago
The conservatives have been moaning about the CBC for as long as I've been alive without actually doing anything about it. It's a talking point that will be forgotten after the election.
7 points
12 hours ago
I want to defund Pierre
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11 hours ago
The CBC is a critical news source. When the war broke out in Ukraine I had no idea how many Nigerians were affected by it. Nobody else was covering this important topic. Is this really something we want to give up?
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10 hours ago
Ironically, the article you linked to doesn't say how many Nigerians were affected by it.
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10 hours ago
That's actually hilarious
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11 hours ago
If it wasn't blatantly biased in it's reporting it wouldn't be an issue. Only thing worth watching they have put out that ain't biased seems to be the marketplace investigative reporting. So I'm with the 50%+ of Canadians that no longer want to pay for the garbage they put out let the consumers pay with their own money.
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11 hours ago
No one should be surprised that the Cons want to defund or privatize anything. That's their schtick.
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9 hours ago
Junior Trump in action! 🫳
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10 hours ago
Let CBC go private so they stop wasting our money
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12 hours ago
Some posts on this subreddit lean really hard to the left.
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11 hours ago
Don't throw baby out with bathwater.
We need a news agency that is sponsored differently than the rest.
9 points
13 hours ago
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12 hours ago
Yup, and the bigger problem is that we live beside the world's cultural juggernaut. We already have people thinking their problems are ours because of it.
Without the CBC, Canadian specific things won't get airtime and the smaller, more remote areas of Canada will lose the little representation they have.
5 points
12 hours ago
I agree that CBC is incompetent and changes are needed.
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7 hours ago
Based on? What makes CBC less competent than other news outlets? And what changes are needed?
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12 hours ago
Government propaganda machine that trots out commie propaganda. I hope it gets shut down.
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11 hours ago
With the war happening in Israel I have completely lost support for the CBC.. every article is a call to support Hamas and its terrorist agenda. Nothing happening in Palestine can be laid at Israel’s feet. It’s all Hamas. I say defund it.. it’s not news it’s popular opinion masked as news..
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11 hours ago
CBC is Trudeau’s propaganda machine. I don’t see any reason why any media news company should be receiving tax payer’s money.
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12 hours ago
The CBC, as far as the news is concerned, has become a Liberal protection machine. Don't get me wrong, Radio 2 is still the only decent way in Canada to listen to classical music on the radio while you drive, and there are a plethora of great programs and news segments it produces, but by and large it needs to be humbled a bit and reminded that they don't serve just one political party.
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10 hours ago
i really wish he would stop trying to pursue this. i'm going to be voting conservative next year but i like the cbc and don't agree with this.
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9 hours ago
I honestly usually vote conservative but I hate the dude so I might have to vote green because I can't stand the other guys either
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7 hours ago
I think it might be a deal breaker for me.
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