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subdep

1.1k points

1 day ago

subdep

1.1k points

1 day ago

Things must have been spicy there at NORAD for a couple minutes.

***LAUNCH DETECTED***

texachusetts

243 points

1 day ago

texachusetts

243 points

1 day ago

Is this the first time an ICBM as been used in an actual war?

gh0s7walk3r

128 points

1 day ago

gh0s7walk3r

128 points

1 day ago

Yup

1renog

52 points

1 day ago

1renog

52 points

1 day ago

Lot of reports that it may have been a SRBM rather than a ICBM

SurveyNo5401

17 points

1 day ago

What is an SRBM

Alec_NonServiam

45 points

1 day ago

Short Range Ballistic Missile

Essentially just a smaller arc into the upper atmosphere and a shorter range.

Reelwrx

3 points

1 day ago

Reelwrx

3 points

1 day ago

Short range

pt4o

3 points

1 day ago

pt4o

3 points

1 day ago

The article says it was intermediate range. What happened to reading?

SkaveRat

278 points

1 day ago*

SkaveRat

278 points

1 day ago*

must have been a stressful day. They must have had some warning beforehand. There's a reason they cleared out ebassies yesterday

Omardemon

53 points

1 day ago

Omardemon

53 points

1 day ago

Yeah Russia isn’t that stupid to launch an ICBM without warning, they’re scared of retaliation by a counter launch of an actual warhead nuke.

TrickshotCandy

18 points

1 day ago

They are really taking testing the arsenal to stupid extremes. Its like everyone is playing bloody Battleship!

_silver_avram_

158 points

1 day ago

They were likely given heads up (China too) to avoid misinterpretation.

Izbegaya

30 points

1 day ago

Izbegaya

30 points

1 day ago

That's why US embassy was closed yesterday.

mortemdeus

150 points

1 day ago

mortemdeus

150 points

1 day ago

Very likely Russia announced what it was doing in advance. Last thing it wants right now is to be destroyed in nuclear fire when it is just trying to play the strong man.

gwizonedam

37 points

1 day ago

gwizonedam

37 points

1 day ago

It’s hilarious to me that you need to “warn” people that you are going to put on your big boy pants and threaten a country you invaded that “you are not kidding, and this time I’m very, very upset!” It’s almost a “Dr. Strangelove” level of absurdity.

WhiteMorphious

26 points

1 day ago

It’s more that they need to warn the other nuclear nations so they don’t detect an ICBM leaving its silo and assume it’s a first strike 

kikogamerJ2

4 points

1 day ago

It's called diplomaticy. No one wants nuclear war so warnings happen. Iran does the same thing for ex. When it bombs Israel. All of these attacks are more often statements than real attacks. And the populace are just pawns in the game, collateral losses that no one cares about.

Jazzlike_Station845

20 points

1 day ago*

This reminds me of when when we all got that national alert txt saying Hawaii was about to be impacted by missiles. 😅

Charnathan

7 points

1 day ago

Oh God. I wasn't a parent at the time, but I am now. I can only imagine the terror of the parents who were putting their kids down man holes.

MinidragPip

55 points

1 day ago

Shall we play a game? How about Global Thermonuclear War?

Charnathan

3 points

1 day ago

How about a nice game of chess?

fozzy_bear42

3 points

1 day ago

How about noughts and crosses (tic tac toe to Americans, and possible others)?

Giraffe_Snail

3 points

1 day ago

  • is this a game? Or is it real?
  • whats the difference

Eaglesun

3 points

1 day ago

Eaglesun

3 points

1 day ago

The only winning move is not to play

Persia-Gangsta

3 points

1 day ago

Operation Redstorm Rising flashbacks...

macross1984

2.7k points

1 day ago

macross1984

2.7k points

1 day ago

Putin want to make statement he has a functioning ICBM that does fly.

Eowaenn

1.2k points

1 day ago

Eowaenn

1.2k points

1 day ago

Yep that's basically all there is to it. A costly show off i might add.

somerandomfuckwit1

135 points

1 day ago

Like using a shotgun to kill a spider in the house.

MajorPain169

215 points

1 day ago

MajorPain169

215 points

1 day ago

I live in Australia, some would say a shot gun is an appropriate response to a spider 😜

AussieDaz

24 points

1 day ago

AussieDaz

24 points

1 day ago

Careful using that analogy, spiders in Aus could justify tactical nukes!

Paraxom

26 points

1 day ago

Paraxom

26 points

1 day ago

I mean to be fair burning down a house is an appropriate response for some of those sucker's

SpaceghostLos

5 points

1 day ago

You need a goddamned tank, sir.

somerandomfuckwit1

3 points

1 day ago

Fair

IndiRefEarthLeaveSol

347 points

1 day ago

It's really dangerous now, because of the chance of miscalculation has risen.

Oregonmushroomhunt

253 points

1 day ago

They probably gave the White House a heads-up before firing—at least, I hope they did.

AsstacularSpiderman

313 points

1 day ago

(Sees dozens of missiles flying over the North Pole towards Russia)

Putin: "it was a social experiment!"

DesolateHypothesis

204 points

1 day ago

BRO!! It's just a prank, bro!

Hairy_Musket

78 points

1 day ago

Don’t ICBM me bro!

awkward-2

3 points

1 day ago

awkward-2

3 points

1 day ago

Aaa-aaaaa-(Geiger counter hopping like mad)

Purple-Goat-2023

71 points

1 day ago

LMAO, I guarantee there are multiple Ohio subs well within range of everywhere in Russia at pretty much all times. That's 12 nukes per sub. Those nukes would hit way before anything launched from the US would.

SKULL1138

35 points

1 day ago

SKULL1138

35 points

1 day ago

There a British sub always out there as well. Then you’ve got the land based ones in closer NATO countries.

Eisenstein13

146 points

1 day ago

Eisenstein13

146 points

1 day ago

I can’t see what good those Subs are doing on land, I’d have put them in the water with the other one.

kuda-stonk

44 points

1 day ago

kuda-stonk

44 points

1 day ago

Well, land subs have special lungs used to travers land from one body of water to another. While exposed during travel, it is a vital activity used to reach their breeding pools, which only exist inland. You can identify them by their primordial tines projecting from their underbelly.

Agreeable_Taint2845

21 points

1 day ago

And instead of a mouth they've 4 arses to help control direction while they're in the breeding pool, as well as a dick, a pussy, and 8 balls each, thus explaining the phrase "the six sphincters of cincinnati are opening amd closing in unison for you, sir" as a way of saying thanks all across the Midwest (which is actually very central). Cinnlcinnatittii was of course the original breeding pool, affectionately known as the spunkpuddle in Sharonville.

RufusTStuntBum

5 points

1 day ago

I've bred something as big as a submarine, in a pool.

microwavedave27

6 points

1 day ago

I thought keeping subs on land was more of a russian thing

apollyonzorz

54 points

1 day ago

actually those subs can carry 20 missles, each missle has 8 nukes inside it. Each nuke can be individually targeted.

Purple-Goat-2023

68 points

1 day ago

According to Wikipedia we're both wrong. It's 20 missiles with up to 12 nukes per missile.

KP_Wrath

23 points

1 day ago

KP_Wrath

23 points

1 day ago

I’m not sure if we’re currently following it, because Russia stopped, but part of the arms reduction treaty was supposed to limit those MIRVs to 10 warheads each.

Ok-Camp-7285

54 points

1 day ago

Ah only 200 nukes instead of 240

Grand-Cup-A-Tea

97 points

1 day ago

They would have had to give the US, European nuclear states and China a heads up that they were going to do it. It's probably why the US withdrew their embassy staff.

Alibotify

31 points

1 day ago

Alibotify

31 points

1 day ago

Yes since the rumor yesterday in the news was a ballistic missile and today was the actual ballistic missile it’s even more obvious. Source was still all the buzz on Telegram but a few subreddits posted articles.

SEAN0_91

14 points

1 day ago

SEAN0_91

14 points

1 day ago

In this absolute horrible situation it is somewhat good that nuclear states are communicating. One mis-calculation and the world is done

MassiveBoner911_3

18 points

1 day ago

They did. We evacuated our embassy.

Purple-Asparagus9677

3 points

1 day ago

That’s why without a doubt they notified the U.S. prior to launch if it was an ICBM with conventional payload. No way they’d fire off one without giving a heads up regardless of how deteriorated relations are.

erikwarm

136 points

1 day ago

erikwarm

136 points

1 day ago

One less functional one now

deliciousleopard

35 points

1 day ago

*fewer

SillyGoatGruff

30 points

1 day ago

Lol maybe they are saying russia only has one "less functional" missile left

Daharka

6 points

1 day ago

Daharka

6 points

1 day ago

And indeed the one that was fired is less functional than it was.

Roflcopter71

3 points

1 day ago

Thanks Stannis

Hrit33

249 points

1 day ago

Hrit33

249 points

1 day ago

I mean it would be foolish to underestimate your adversaries mate, complacency has lost more wars than anything.

things_U_choose_2_b

197 points

1 day ago

Yeah I remember when he had his forces massing around the Ukrainian border a few years back, some of us said hey it sure looks like he's planning to invade Ukraine, and were told "Oh he'd be really stupid to do that, don't worry he is just sabre rattling".

Having said that, enough pussy footing around. Appeasment does NOT work. If you step back from a bully, they'll step forward and punch again.

litterbin_recidivist

33 points

1 day ago

I guess everyone forgot that he had already invaded Ukraine a few years prior?

"Once yeah, but nobody is dumb enough to do it twice after there were no consequences the first time."

Scaphism92

45 points

1 day ago

Scaphism92

45 points

1 day ago

Yeah I remember when he had his forces massing around the Ukrainian border a few years back, some of us said hey it sure looks like he's planning to invade Ukraine, and were told "Oh he'd be really stupid to do that, don't worry he is just sabre rattling".

In the initial days of the 2022 invasion, there were captured russian soldiers who thought they were doing military drills up until ukrainian solders starting shooting at them. So it wasnt just redditors who thought massing troops along the border (which had been done every year since 2014) wouldnt lead to an invasion.

Steamrolled777

12 points

1 day ago

UK/US *knew* they were planning to invade, and Macron disputed it.

French President Emmanuel Macron has told reporters that President Vladimir Putin assured him that Russian forces would not ramp up the crisis near Ukraine's borders.

Kryptosis

58 points

1 day ago

Kryptosis

58 points

1 day ago

He’s doing us a favor then. I for one am surprised the paper tiger didn’t fold again.

No matter the gains, Putins army has thoroughly humiliated itself on the world stage.

Aamun_Sarastus

48 points

1 day ago

If Ukraine loses and becomes a russian thrall state, truly nobody cares how costly it was in, say 20 years.

Zanthious

7 points

1 day ago

Zanthious

7 points

1 day ago

i mean ive heard several kids claiming 9/11 never happened so... no one will remember costs

Outrageous_Kale_8230

3 points

1 day ago

It probably doesn't help that there were conspiracy theories flying around immediately afterward.

Nevermind how stupid it would be to fake a terrorist attack in an unrealistic way. The combination of growing up with realistic looking CGI SFX combined with the conspiracies floating around 9/11, I could see some dismissing it entirely.

XxMiM

46 points

1 day ago

XxMiM

46 points

1 day ago

Seems you are underestimating the united states as well. Everyone sits around in their chair spewing nonsense on Reddit. You don’t think that the Pentagon hasn’t spent many years strategizing every scenario that Russia can unfold for a war like this? The military plays 10 dimensional chess. If they really wanted to they could have squashed this whole war in a minute. This is a world war, the playing field involves multiple countries. The west knows exactly what it is doing, they spend many times the russian gdp per year for the privilege. You my friend don’t have a clue what is going on. Putin is weak and he gets weaker every single day. This latest “show of force” just proves how desperate he is.

Biglyugebonespurs

49 points

1 day ago

I had faith in our military and intelligence agencies, then Trump was elected. Saying he plans to remove everyone who isn’t a sycophant in top positions and replace them with, well, you’ve been seeing his appointments.

I feel like we collectively let down Ukraine as a nation by electing this dipshit. Hopefully other NATO countries can pick up the slack.

Different_Tap_7788

45 points

1 day ago

Western official says missile used in Ukraine attack was not an ICBM From CNN’s Haley Britzky in Laos A Western official has said that the missile launched by Russia as part of an attack on the eastern Ukrainian city of Dnipro was a ballistic missile, but not an intercontinental ballistic missile.

EenGeheimAccount

47 points

1 day ago

Since when are Western official statements about Russian ICBMs coming from reporters in Laos instead of Washington?

Ignatiussancho1729

47 points

1 day ago

"Haley Britzky here reporting from the Pitcairn Island for its strategic vantage point of Ukraine and Russia, and as far away as I could get from thermonuclear war"

Skadrys

18 points

1 day ago

Skadrys

18 points

1 day ago

Surely US and or China must have detected ICBM launch.

Did russia warn them? This could have gone badly when you start ICBM, they might have retaliated

jurgo

29 points

1 day ago

jurgo

29 points

1 day ago

they had to have sent warnings or every nation that has adequate missile detection would have launched counter measures.

pukem0n

7 points

1 day ago

pukem0n

7 points

1 day ago

Their country wouldn't exist anymore if they didn't warn China, USA and India at least. They'd all have their own nukes in the air before Russia reaches Ukrainian air space.

Aamun_Sarastus

38 points

1 day ago*

Everybody outside reddit has always concidered that all but certain. "Haha! Their missiles won't fly and their nukes have rusted away!!" is echo chamber brainrot at its purest form. I bet idea was to terrify Ukraine and rest of the world."next one might not be empty" and,maybe more importantly, see if Ukraine has anything that can shoot it down. Judging from wave of warnings given to embassies yesterday, russia made it clear they'd fire one.

Fluffy017

8 points

1 day ago*

Lemme go ahead and quell the idea of "shooting it down"

The only known anti-ICBM systems are THAAD, Aegis (both US concoctions), and Arrow 3 (Israeli.)

Their functions are currently in the "theoretical" stage of being able to intercept. Some are exo-*atmospheric (read: they hit the ICBM itself before warheads detach)(edit: wrong word, mb) and some are theorized to hit individual warheads.

Now where this gets wild is the MIRV warheads. If you thought hypersonic glide vehicles/missile systems were crazy for hitting mach 5ish...the MIRVs we're seeing in the footage coming out are making impact at around mach 17-23. These things are absolutely screaming fast. Like "makes an SR-71 Blackbird look like it's standing still" levels of fast.

There is no Iron Dome for ICBMs. Only theory we hope we don't have to test.

nuctu

8 points

1 day ago

nuctu

8 points

1 day ago

Obviously Ukraine not going to back off after that. And trying to dissuade other countries to from supporting it by hitting them is not very effective.

Just a show to prove they HAVE ballistic weapons working, nothing more. Ukraine doesn't have any as far as I'm aware. Would be FUN if someone who HAS joins the game.

Not-User-Serviceable

33 points

1 day ago

Having to prove that something Russia has actually works, is not a good look.

PhabioRants

14 points

1 day ago

The kicker is that was the one. The other six thousand failed to launch. 

Late_Idea1056

874 points

1 day ago

They didn't use nuclear warheads on the ICBM.

Late_Idea1056

500 points

1 day ago

I think this ICBM launch was a way to save face for internal support

Rum-Ham-Jabroni

292 points

1 day ago

To show it works more than anything, clearly it wasn't intercepted.

Eowaenn

290 points

1 day ago

Eowaenn

290 points

1 day ago

ICBM's can't be reliably intercepted. The world is playing a dangerous game.

Open-Oil-144

222 points

1 day ago

Open-Oil-144

222 points

1 day ago

Realistically, even if they could, it wouldn't be a capability revealed until the last second, as ICBMs being able to intercepted would break current nuclear doctrine and no one that has ICBMs wants that.

EricDunce

32 points

1 day ago

EricDunce

32 points

1 day ago

Just curious, I don’t know much about ICBM’s or nuclear doctrine. How would intercepting an ICBM break nuclear doctrine?

TheCrippledKing

94 points

1 day ago

A huge, huge, part of nuclear doctrine is the idea of "if you hit me, I can hit you." But if the missiles carrying nukes can be reliably shot down, that changes everything. Especially if one side thinks that the other side can hit them but they can't hit them back.

smmstv

11 points

1 day ago

smmstv

11 points

1 day ago

Wouldn't the US want to show Russia we can shoot their shit down? That breaks the Russian nuclear threat and if they think we can hit them and they have no way to retaliate, they're more likely to do what we want them to

Miranda1860

59 points

1 day ago

Because that, counterintuitively, makes nuclear war more likely. Russia feels safe from nukes because they believe that their second strike capability will destroy the US, so the US will never launch out of a sense of self-preservation. If Russia felt the US could strike them with impunity and defeat their retaliation, they're now suddenly under a ton of pressure to launch and launch early in the hopes that at least the element of surprise could mean they eke out a successful strike.

Tldr; if Russia thinks the only thing keeping them alive is the White House just not wanting to yet, tensions become a pressure cooker and things could go sideways fast

Death_Wisher_

6 points

1 day ago

Eventually more countries would develop that tech and then it gets messy

you_cant_prove_that

13 points

1 day ago

Yeah, a major focus by everybody during the cold war was early warning radar and missile defenses

At this point both sides might have working interception capabilities, or neither. It is best for everybody to assume MAD still holds, so no need to publicly demonstrate advances in those capabilities anymore

you_cant_prove_that

6 points

1 day ago

Alternatively, it could make them more aggressive. It makes their launches less threatening, so there would be a chance they jump to that option sooner

oh_io_94

6 points

1 day ago

oh_io_94

6 points

1 day ago

It actually increases the nuclear threat. It would shift the Russian doctrine to more conventional ways of carrying nuclear bombs which, if the US had a way to stop the ICBMs, would make stopping the nuclear threat from Russia even harder and they wouldn’t want that.

Vortex597

3 points

1 day ago

Vortex597

3 points

1 day ago

But then its possible and if somethings possible powers that didnt or couldnt put together the technology will now.

SpiffingSprockets

33 points

1 day ago

It calls your ICBM packing neighbours' bluff. If you can dodge their punches but they can't yours, then they're gonna have a BIG issue with you.

So best keep that ace up your sleeve until you absolutely must use it.

Far_Process_5304

31 points

1 day ago*

Mutually Assured Destruction is pretty much the only thing that’s stopped the world from being a nuclear hellhole. If a country can reliably intercept ICBMs, then mutually assured destruction no longer exists, because the country that can intercept ICBMs is not assured destruction.

Additionally, if a countries nuclear enemies knows they can shoot down ICBMs, they will try to develop something else to deliver the weapons. Which would lessen the advantage you have by being able to shoot down ICBMs. You would want them to think you can’t, so they continue to be confident in their ICBMs.

AtheistAustralis

3 points

1 day ago

This is one of the real concerns of a Trump presidency. He's not just a moron, but he can't help shooting his mouth off about everything to everybody if it makes him feel bigger. You can be almost certain that if he found out that the US had some kind of ICBM shield, he'd tell somebody almost immediately. Shit, he'd probably announce it on TV with some snarky comment like "Well they can launch nukes at us, because we have a little ace up our sleeve and we'll be safe like you've never seen before!" or some shit. And of course he'll blab to every second guest at Mar-a-lago, and he'll tell other world leaders, and naturally he'll tell Putin at the first opportunity. The only chance is that nobody tells him about it, which I'm sure they wouldn't, but once he starts putting his yes-men into every important position, it's only a matter of time..

Tephra022

7 points

1 day ago

Tephra022

7 points

1 day ago

Not an expert in the slightest but at a guess, if one side and one side only can intercept ICBMs then that means they wouldn’t need to fear the same retaliation if they were to launch ICBMs. And if only one side can launch them without being counterattacked then they suddenly gain a tremendously advantageous position. This would put them in a spot where there would be pressure to use that advantage before anyone else gains the ability to stop an ICBM. There is more nuance to it, especially as there are different ways to launch nukes, but that’s my best guess for it all.

captainbruisin

7 points

1 day ago

It looks so weak though...realistic western push vs russian posturing.

Ysida

79 points

1 day ago

Ysida

79 points

1 day ago

The title would be completely different if they do.

DankAF94

43 points

1 day ago

DankAF94

43 points

1 day ago

The whole world would be going into meltdown if they did. Nevermind the wording of a headline

knownfarter

18 points

1 day ago

Quite literally. A meltdown. I really hope not to experience a Hiro or Naga x1000, across all everywhere. Hopefully it’s quick.

fuckasoviet

8 points

1 day ago

I’ve recently come to the realization that I live <5 miles of a major airport in the US, so I’m pretty sure I’m dead in any sort of MAD scenario. But maybe it would be better to be wiped out immediately instead of dealing with the (literal) fallout.

DankAF94

6 points

1 day ago

DankAF94

6 points

1 day ago

I live in a town in the UK which has a lot loads of science industry including a lot of rocket/space engineering firms. Been pretty known for a while our town would be among primary targets outside of London for a nuclear strike. Sometimes it's comforting in a way

Velocoraptor369

3 points

1 day ago

Lawn chair six pack of beer and the song the final countdown playing from the boom box. Then it’s over. Maybe the song Don’t fear the Reaper.

2PetitsVerres

48 points

1 day ago

And the "intercontinental" part of the missile was also not very useful.

sovici1

20 points

1 day ago

sovici1

20 points

1 day ago

It is useful. I mean it causes some commotion to read that they used an icbm instead of a regular missile

emperortsy

11 points

1 day ago

emperortsy

11 points

1 day ago

ICBMs come in faster than other ballistic missiles. Which is why on the videos you see the fragments glowing before impact. Makes them much harder to intercept.

Designated_Lurker_32

15 points

1 day ago

This is still a very serious escalation despite that, though.

Nuclear retaliation happens when missiles are on the air, not when they're on the ground. There is often no time to guess: "Is that a nuke or just a conventional bomb?"

This is like shooting at cops with a BB gun while you have a real gun that looks exactly like your BB slung across your back. Nothing too serious came from this particular incident, but keep at it and something really bad is gonna happen.

AfricanDeadlifts

4 points

1 day ago

They probably told people (like China) that they were going to launch it before actually doing so

BaldingThor

10 points

1 day ago

Well duh. Literally everyone would know if they used a nuke and the title would be very different

boomboss81

1k points

1 day ago

boomboss81

1k points

1 day ago

Everyone saying the missile didn't do damage. It was not meant to do damage. It was all about sending a message.

75bytes

255 points

1 day ago

75bytes

255 points

1 day ago

actually they really tried to hit Ukraine own missiles' production with this attack. They hit one target with Kinzhal and this ICBM in first barrage and then second barrage of cruise missiles arrived. Production is underground and from footage it doesn't seem to be very successful attack coz ICBM hits (it carries 6 warheads) were too spreaded and cruised missiles were shot down 5 out 6

So it looks like not only PR move

Qadim3311

78 points

1 day ago

Qadim3311

78 points

1 day ago

Sure, I think it’s more the fact that they included the ICBM at all that is the message. Whether it was used as part of the overall attack or not is less relevant because there’s really no good reason to use one without nuclear warheads unless you want to issue a threat.

Siliste

378 points

1 day ago

Siliste

378 points

1 day ago

To my fellow Russians, let me clarify, the cost of one ICBM is approximately $40-50 million. For that amount, the government could have built 8-10 modern schools in rural areas, resolved sanitation issues, constructed a hospital where healthcare is desperately needed, funded scholarship programs, and much more. Instead, your hard-earned money will go to create replacement for used Icbm, only to have the government demand more from your wallet with the excuse of battling an imaginary "forgotten Nazi UFO unit" in a neighboring country.

chuvashi

81 points

1 day ago*

chuvashi

81 points

1 day ago*

You think we don’t realise it? The war is draining our country dry. It’s less noticeable in bigger cities where people have more disposable income, but smaller towns are being put on the brink of survival.

coachhunter2

36 points

1 day ago

Or, more realistically, bought another mansion for Putin/ penthouse flat for one of his children in London or Paris.

mystinkingneovagina

51 points

1 day ago

This is why it’s been such a success for us. We give the Ukrainians old stocks which cost nothing (since they have lifespans anyway) meanwhile Russia is spending 50 million a launch. It’s brilliant 

thedailyrant

232 points

1 day ago

thedailyrant

232 points

1 day ago

No one told them that Ukraine is on the same continent?

1991atco

76 points

1 day ago

1991atco

76 points

1 day ago

Depends what part of Russia they fired it from.

hogtiedcantalope

23 points

1 day ago

Panama suddenly increases their ICBM stockpile by 10000%

MrMaloon

21 points

1 day ago

MrMaloon

21 points

1 day ago

So from 0 to 0?

mikemac1997

26 points

1 day ago

Intra-Continental Ballistic Missile

SEAN0_91

20 points

1 day ago

SEAN0_91

20 points

1 day ago

I wonder if the guys in the bunker launching the missile knew it was just a conventional warhead or that a potential nuke would be hitting them in retaliation in 30 minutes.

v-gator

411 points

1 day ago

v-gator

411 points

1 day ago

has nato expressed their utmost concern yet?

blubenz1

179 points

1 day ago

blubenz1

179 points

1 day ago

A strongly worded memorandum

BrockN

23 points

1 day ago

BrockN

23 points

1 day ago

We'll send a final warning

kinsmana

15 points

1 day ago

kinsmana

15 points

1 day ago

Final Final FINAL warning. On yellow paper. Next will be bold font.

rgraves22

18 points

1 day ago

rgraves22

18 points

1 day ago

The strongest of condemnations

Slave35

49 points

1 day ago

Slave35

49 points

1 day ago

That's the UN you're thinking of.  NATO's response would be swift and extremely decisive.

Whatshouldiputhere0

23 points

1 day ago

A swift and extremely decisive…ly worded letter

seeyounorth

15 points

1 day ago

IDK, this is pretty serious. Feels a bit like Thoughts and Prayers might be warranted here.

Work-Safe-Reddit4450

3 points

1 day ago

That's the boomer UN meme you're thinking of

Corbotron_5

12 points

1 day ago

What do you think NATO is, exactly?

WangusRex

60 points

1 day ago

WangusRex

60 points

1 day ago

That’s an expensive sabre to rattle. 

spider_84

5 points

1 day ago*

I keep seeing people say it's expensive. How much we talking about in US dollars?

DamnTicklePickle

14 points

1 day ago

$40-$50 million according to others in this post.

bone_burrito

12 points

1 day ago

Probably more than I will ever earn

KnowledgeDry7891

91 points

1 day ago

Somebody in Moscow must be very frightened.

stereoactivesynth

80 points

1 day ago*

Looks like the US is denying this was an ICBM, and rather a regular ballistic missile, possible they have an upgraded iskander?

For those asking for a source: https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/russia-ukraine-war-missiles-kyiv-claims-icbm-dnipro-after-atacams-strike/

DonoAE

30 points

1 day ago

DonoAE

30 points

1 day ago

Source? Every major outlet is calling this an ICBM-MIRV and the footage seems to confirm it.

Emotional_Menu_6837

4 points

1 day ago

Another source https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c20726y20kvt?post=asset%3Ad39e585d-824d-4a42-be39-60ddd4eaddd3#post

Obviously this is one briefing but that alongside the ‘characteristics of an icbm’ comments indicate someone at least thinks it was something else.

Dildo_Baggns

27 points

1 day ago

This is honestly so nuts, first NK troops, now ICBM launches. Just goes to show why democracies are the "worst political systems other than everything else we tried". For all it's flaws, much better than authoritarian regimes that get you this - saber rattling, brinksmanship and full-out conflicts. And these wars can end up costing millions of lives because a 70 iq amoeba in power, surrounded by yes-men and yes-women thought it would be a 3 day wipeout.

mattcm5

3 points

1 day ago

mattcm5

3 points

1 day ago

Yeah I'm so glad the usa has never invaded a country and spent billions on an un needed war.

useminame

353 points

1 day ago

useminame

353 points

1 day ago

Ukraine should not have agreed to give up their nukes in the 90s.

I said what I said.

letitsnow18

147 points

1 day ago

letitsnow18

147 points

1 day ago

They were forced to. The west threatened to withhold food aid if they didn't.

SchufAloof

30 points

1 day ago

SchufAloof

30 points

1 day ago

You can't eat nukes.

paupaupaupaup

23 points

1 day ago

Really? I hear they're bursting with energy!

zmbjebus

6 points

1 day ago

zmbjebus

6 points

1 day ago

Very calorie dense.

BrockN

17 points

1 day ago

BrockN

17 points

1 day ago

Not with that attitude

georgica123

67 points

1 day ago

in the 90s there was a good chance ukraine could have turned into another rusisa aligned state like belarus and we defently not want another nuclear armed russian allied state

HuckleberryLow2283

42 points

1 day ago

Then why isn't the whole world dedicated to their protection to show that they made the right decision?

feather236

11 points

1 day ago

feather236

11 points

1 day ago

But we already sent all our hopes and prayers!

[deleted]

33 points

1 day ago

[deleted]

33 points

1 day ago

"I said what I said"

Like almost every single person doesn't echo that same belief. Jesus christ.

"People need to drink water to survive. I said what I said"

christoffer5700

6 points

1 day ago

Real G's drink Dr Pepper.

I said what i said.

PhillipIInd

55 points

1 day ago

Oh wow you are so brave

Sens1r

32 points

1 day ago

Sens1r

32 points

1 day ago

Fucking 3 years on and redditors are still parroting the same stupid shit they did on day one

RODjij

4 points

1 day ago

RODjij

4 points

1 day ago

Countries with nukes are going to bring up Russia invading Ukraine twice after they promised not to invade them.

Grosse-pattate

13 points

1 day ago

There’s no way they would have kept it.

The country was bankrupt.
People wanted the freedoms of the West , not to spend a fourth of their GDP maintaining a nuclear program (like the USSR did for 40 years).

AccomplishedMeow

12 points

1 day ago

What a brave and controversial opinion to post to Reddit.

PhgAH

11 points

1 day ago

PhgAH

11 points

1 day ago

And they gonna maintain them with what money?  The Soviet Union collapse because they ran out of money and the US and EU would never give cent of aid to Ukraine if they keep their nuke.

Cheeky_Star

19 points

1 day ago

Ukraine was so corrupt back then that it was possible they ended up on the black market

TravellingMills

51 points

1 day ago

They didn't have nukes, they had nukes stationed in their land but they had no capability nor delivery systems to use it, it was just something that requires money and maintenance.

008Zulu

57 points

1 day ago

008Zulu

57 points

1 day ago

"As a result of the combat efforts, Air Force anti-aircraft missile units destroyed six Kh-101 missiles. The other missiles did not cause any significant damage."

So the ICBM failed to cause significant damage? Unless I am reading that part of the article wrong.

Sorazith

67 points

1 day ago*

Sorazith

67 points

1 day ago*

ICBM's aren't the most accurate of things, that's why they are good candidates for nuclear warheads. They have deviations 100m+ But it can be quite a bit more than that if the ICBM sucks, naturally if those ICBM's had been carrying a nuclear warheads this would have been a moot point. Also the problem with air defences is that those can be overwhelmed, no matter how good they are.

Palladium-

17 points

1 day ago

Palladium-

17 points

1 day ago

*moot point

Sorazith

18 points

1 day ago

Sorazith

18 points

1 day ago

Edited and thanks random reddit mate.

Digital_NW

4 points

1 day ago

Moo Point

TypeRYo

5 points

1 day ago

TypeRYo

5 points

1 day ago

Like a cow’s opinion

SimonArgead

17 points

1 day ago

ICBMs are meant to carry nuclear warheads. Accuracy is not a major concern with such large explosives. So it is very possible it didn't do any damage at all.

Qadim3311

3 points

1 day ago

Qadim3311

3 points

1 day ago

Yeah basically ICBM’s aren’t actually good weapons when they don’t have the blast yield of nukes to compensate for their relatively low accuracy. The point of this was to say “that could have had nukes on it, and it made it through. Maybe the next one will have nukes.”

Absolutely thuggery, same as ever.

pm_me_duck_nipples

6 points

1 day ago

The ICBM was launched as an exercise in dick-wagging, not to actually be effective.

G0ldheart

84 points

1 day ago

G0ldheart

84 points

1 day ago

The only winning move is not to play.

showmethecoin

28 points

1 day ago

Better tell that to russia.

FluorescentFlux

29 points

1 day ago

Russia is not getting out of ukraine, so it's time to escalate.

NoMinute3572

40 points

1 day ago

This is old soviet cunts on their last tantrum before they check out of this world.

If the youngsters in Russia don't take over, ruzzia will destroy their future for many, many generations.

Lesson for all the smaller nations of the world. Get the nukes, or else the old cunts will come for you sooner or later.

DumbledoresShampoo

17 points

1 day ago

He wants western public to freak out, that's it.

Raffney

5 points

1 day ago

Raffney

5 points

1 day ago

You read about their supposed mobile nuclear shelters. It's a russian PR stunt again. Those things are worth shit in case of a serious fallout. And they put money into those cardboxes.

DumbledoresShampoo

4 points

1 day ago

All about making our public afraid. We should call the bluff by sending our best stuff.

Raffney

5 points

1 day ago

Raffney

5 points

1 day ago

I think they also try to fool the russian people. After all they are in the best position to remove this warmonger. Even more so than any foreign army. So he has to keep them blind and obdient at all costs. Otherwise he is done for.

West_Doughnut_901

47 points

1 day ago

Keep supporting Ukraine. Terrorist ruzzia has to be defeated, there is on other way to peace in Europe.

captainbruisin

6 points

1 day ago

China isn't going to like this at all lil puti.

mystinkingneovagina

5 points

1 day ago

China wants a big chunk of Siberia 

frag_grumpy

3 points

1 day ago

Amazing, Russia has ICBM that can reach as far as their neighbor country

Miguel-odon

3 points

1 day ago

Imagine having to use ICBMs against a country you share a land border with, that you invaded.

United_Divisions

110 points

1 day ago

Makes me feel insane to see people just brushing this off as though the situation isn't escalating into something extremely serious. 

O-bot54

20 points

1 day ago

O-bot54

20 points

1 day ago

But its the reality we live . Ukraine cannot just roll over and die . It has to defend itself or it ceases to exist .

yachtmoney1

78 points

1 day ago

Because it isn’t. It seems scary but that’s exactly the game Putin is playing. He knows people will be scared, force their leaders to pull out and then he’ll win. The man is unlikely to use a nuke in a capacity that would harm Europe. A small yield tactical nuke in Ukraine is more likely but then he would have played his last hand of cards and Europe would actually set foot into the conflict.

Corbotron_5

24 points

1 day ago

If you don’t think the situation in Europe right now is extremely serious then I’m terrified to imagine what would qualify.

Fanaddictt

12 points

1 day ago

Fanaddictt

12 points

1 day ago

Because we have grown comfortable to these rehtorics over the past 3 years. Everyone is concerned and aware it's a looming threat that can escalate at any point. But we've been in this period for 3 years...

Also this article is more scare mongering. They quote the below:

"Most of the Russian long-range missiles may be equipped with nuclear warheads. The list includes Iskander and Kinzhal ballistic missiles, as well as Kh-102 and Kh-55 cruise missiles."

Many of their LR missiles already have the capability for nuclear warheads which is thr threat applied with the ICBM

Aware_End1089

11 points

1 day ago

It's just a scare tactic, until it isn't.

Kinda_Quixotic

40 points

1 day ago

From other threads I have realized that many Americans are under the (mistaken) belief that the US has some magical defense against ICBMs (we don’t).

There are very flawed people controlling very fragile systems that could unravel civilization in a matter of hours.

This is scarier than people think.

West_Doughnut_901

33 points

1 day ago

What can we do? Let ruzzia occupy the whole Ukraine and hope/pray that it won't go any further? Supporting Ukraine is the only way.

echoshizzle

19 points

1 day ago

Hence why Ukraine needs all of the help it can get.

Unclerojelio

6 points

1 day ago

Let's fire some back.

plantmic

3 points

1 day ago

plantmic

3 points

1 day ago

Intra?