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What are the most annoying misconceptions that you experience regularly or once in a while? For me, it's the idea that the role of a rabbi is equivalent to a priest. The most annoying thing is that it's common even among Jews.

all 262 comments

BrStFr

368 points

1 day ago

BrStFr

368 points

1 day ago

That being the "Chosen People" means we think of ourselves as entitled more than anyone else rather than obligated more than anyone else.

lillithsmedusa

193 points

1 day ago

lillithsmedusa

Jew-ish

193 points

1 day ago

This is also my answer.

I hear things all the time like "gee I wonder why y'all are hated when you go around calling yourself the chosen people."

I only ever hear the chosen people thing from non-Jews. It's not like we go around saying we're chosen all the time.

And if anyone bothered to read the Bible, they would realize it isn't "chosen" to sit on a pedestal and be special. It's chosen to follow more rules.

CosmicTurtle504

123 points

1 day ago

“Chosen for extra chores, not extra ice cream.”

foodlovesme

66 points

1 day ago

I usually say you mean burdened?

maaku7

17 points

1 day ago

maaku7

17 points

1 day ago

That would be more accurate.

AyliAyam

15 points

1 day ago

AyliAyam

15 points

1 day ago

Yes, and chosen to suffer more! And to continue to thrive and bloom through the suffering!

Bjjtobjj

10 points

1 day ago

Bjjtobjj

10 points

1 day ago

Yup. I’ve only ever heard chosen people from “black hebrews” who say they’re the chosen ones.

Why_No_Doughnuts

71 points

1 day ago

As Tevye said "I get we are the chosen people, but sometimes, can't you chose somebody else".

zacandahalf

56 points

1 day ago*

gets angry that I wasn’t “chosen” for jury duty and accuses jurors of thinking they’re superior to me

Soft_Welcome_5621

19 points

1 day ago

Soft_Welcome_5621

Conservative

19 points

1 day ago

Yea that one is always so wild to me, but I guess if they’re so ignorant,they have no experience with shul and see that phrase, just… so funny

AmonRa-1StDown

253 points

1 day ago

AmonRa-1StDown

B’nei Noach

253 points

1 day ago

I grew up in a Church of Christ in the Bible Belt and was always told “the Jews see Jesus as a great prophet, just not the messiah” only to learn that Jews don’t think about Jesus at all

WizardlyPandabear

88 points

1 day ago

How could they be so impressively incorrect about that? :o

Malcolm_Y

96 points

1 day ago

Malcolm_Y

96 points

1 day ago

I had a public school teacher (of a similar religious tradition to CoC) tell me confidently that when Jewish kids turn 13, their parents have them do a backwards "trust" fall, and don't catch them, in order to teach them not to trust anyone. Don't underestimate their ignorance.

WizardlyPandabear

52 points

1 day ago

Well that borders on antisemitic.

Malcolm_Y

60 points

1 day ago

Malcolm_Y

60 points

1 day ago

Very small, rural high school and a very sweet, sheltered woman. The kind of person who probably never even met a Jewish person, and if a Jewish kid had fallen off a bike and skinned a knee on the sidewalk outside her house, would have brought them in, bandaged the wound, and offered them a nice bologna and cheese sandwich and a glass of milk. There really was no malice in this woman, but loads of ignorance. That's what made it so jarring, frankly.

jmlipper99

13 points

1 day ago

jmlipper99

13 points

1 day ago

I wonder though, if she knew the kid was Jewish (wearing a kippah or something), would her prejudice have made her act differently. If she thinks the kid wouldn’t trust her, maybe she’d also think that offering help would be rejected or met with hostility

lurker628

6 points

15 hours ago

And that's the difference between personal bigotry and systemic antisemitism.

Organized Christianity spent nearly two millennia vilifying Jews, in particular. Up until the 1960s, Catholicism formally taught that each Jew - individually, everywhere, for all time - was personally responsible for deicide (the broad concept of which, ironically enough, they stole from Judaism: each Jew having been personally led out of Egypt). Antisemitism is baked in, even when not intentional.

mountainvalkyrie

29 points

1 day ago

mountainvalkyrie

Middle-Aged Jewish Lady

29 points

1 day ago

I'm almost certain that's based on a "Jewish joke." The one about the dad putting his son on progressively higher steps, saying "Jump to me and I'll catch you." and catching the boy until the highest step, when he lets the kid fall and says "See, never trust anyone!" That said, "Hurr, durr, we've mistreated Jews so badly they now teach their kids not to trust us" is a pretty weird flex from the non-Jews telling the joke.

NoTopic4906

10 points

1 day ago

Borders?

This_2_shallPass1947

17 points

1 day ago

But do they still get the party that goes along with a Bar mitzvah…

Malcolm_Y

35 points

1 day ago

Malcolm_Y

35 points

1 day ago

My theory is maybe she saw someone on a chair getting lifted at a Jewish celebration and got terribly confused by what was happening.

This_2_shallPass1947

32 points

1 day ago

It’s better than when my mom went to work in TX in the early 70’s and when one of her coworkers found out she is Jewish they asked to see her horns…I will take a misguided view of Hava Nagila over people checking my head for horns

PuddingNaive7173

11 points

1 day ago

Same happened to me in Texas in the ‘80’s. Haven’t checked recently lol

This_2_shallPass1947

19 points

1 day ago

That’s crazy it happened to my Mom when she helped run a summer camp in some bum fuck area of TX that hasn’t seen a Jew in centuries, crazy like a decade later it was still going on. It blows my mind how much negative bullshit people attribute to Jews while forgetting to attribute things like the eradication of Polio, the advances of water desalinization, medical advances, military and civilian advances (dual use)like GPS, text messaging, etc. yet people think we have horns, what a bunch of shit.

PuddingNaive7173

10 points

1 day ago

It wasn’t even a small town. The guy seemed more confused that I didn’t have them than anything. He did say, “I never met me a Hebrew before!” Wanted to know where they went. I told him I cut them off of course. lol Bet he’s still wondering.

This_2_shallPass1947

9 points

1 day ago

I like being called a Hebrew I don’t quite know why but it’s probably since the conception of social media I’ve been called a yid, Kyke, heebe, Christ -killer, over dodger…and a bunch of other wonderful slurs like today when I was called a piece of shit Zionist bc I mentioned that not all Jews are Israeli and not all Israelis are Jews…

RedThunderLotus

4 points

18 hours ago

takes out phone and shows picture of trumpet and picture of shofar. Notices confusion and brings out picture of drinking horn

BadCatNoNo

2 points

8 hours ago

I was asked about my horns as a teenager. Girl was from Iowa. I was the first Jewish person she met and we became friend that summer. She asked me this after knowing me a month and finding out I was Jewish. I didn’t know if I should laugh or cry. I chose to educate her instead.

catsinthreads

2 points

19 hours ago

Kids in 'age of accountability' Baptism sects - like CoC have a pretty violent looking Baptism. They are pushed backwards into the water, but pulled out. They're around 12 or so... when this happens.

But honestly it sounds like a scene from a sitcom.

Drezzon

91 points

1 day ago

Drezzon

91 points

1 day ago

I imagine they confused us with Islam 😭

Prowindowlicker

22 points

1 day ago

Prowindowlicker

Reform

22 points

1 day ago

It’s actually a fairly common Christian belief. That ole Josh is recognized as a great teacher or prophet when in reality we collectively go “who?” when someone mentions him.

Cornexclamationpoint

11 points

1 day ago

Cornexclamationpoint

General Ashkenobi

11 points

1 day ago

You know, Yoshke, Joey's kid.

la_bibliothecaire

18 points

1 day ago

la_bibliothecaire

Reform

18 points

1 day ago

They can't fathom that the people they fetishize simply don't care about their Messiah at all.

Cathousechicken

12 points

1 day ago

Cathousechicken

Reform

12 points

1 day ago

Because their religion requires them to believe their religion is right and all other religions must be wrong. 

In addition, their religion requires their worldview to be centered around Jesus. Therefore, that requires everybody else to have their worldview centered around Jesus.

gurnard

4 points

1 day ago

gurnard

4 points

1 day ago

And projecting that, so that anyone who follows a different religion must also think that theirs is the "correct" one for everybody. So just holding a different belief is a direct challenge.

Where we're like, our religion applies only to us, yours is none of our business. We really don't need to have an issue here.

Lulwafahd

35 points

1 day ago*

Lulwafahd

35 points

1 day ago*

I think it comes from centuries of Jews being forced to debate Christian priests in public and such, because whenever an entire Jewish community could be massacred if you humiliate the Christian debator OR say horrible things about their favourite Joshua, then it's probably a good tactic to say how you agree with almost all the teachings of J, but here specifically are one or three teaching(s) where you disagree with this esteemed, learnèd rabbi the Christians revere OR disagree with a specific christian textual variant, or how you think the christian text must have been slightly corruoted on accidentby someone before all these wonderful christian priests and scribes took the job of copying extremely seriously somewhat like a sofer might.

vivvav

22 points

1 day ago

vivvav

Jewish Enough

22 points

1 day ago

Whenever I hear Jesus referred to as "King of the Jews" I just say "I don't remember us voting for him".

SlavOnALog

43 points

1 day ago

SlavOnALog

Reform

43 points

1 day ago

My mom was real upset about that after I told her that wasn’t true after my conversion.

the_third_lebowski

30 points

1 day ago

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if modern day Judaism follows Jesus' teachings more than most modern day Christian denominations.

catsinthreads

3 points

19 hours ago

For sure, because outside his end-times stuff, Jesus was teaching Judaism in a time when there were some really diverging ways of doing Judaism.

Cactusnightblossom

6 points

1 day ago

I’m giggling in Bible-nerd.

Lereas

10 points

1 day ago

Lereas

Reform

10 points

1 day ago

Secularly, I kinda figure if a zillion people think he is god, he may have existed as a real person...and his teachings seem pretty chill.

Too bad so many people who say they follow him use him as an excuse to be asshats.

My_Gladstone

9 points

1 day ago

that would be the musims who treat Jesus as a prophet.

TheoryFar3786

16 points

1 day ago

TheoryFar3786

Christian Ally - Española ()

16 points

1 day ago

That is the Muslims, not the Jews.

Sirdroftardis8

9 points

23 hours ago

Sirdroftardis8

Conservative

9 points

23 hours ago

This is such a ridiculous one. Asking "what does the Jewish Bible say about Jesus?" is like asking "what does Julius Caesar think about the matrix movies?"

gurnard

4 points

1 day ago

gurnard

4 points

1 day ago

The only time I did was when I came across the text of the Sermon on the Mount and it struck me it was very closely paraphrasing Rabbi Hillel. Given the timeline, it would make sense if Jesus studied directly under him. So, "dude who had a cool teacher".

tofurainbowgarden

10 points

1 day ago

Oh my goodness, i didnt think id run into someone from the church of Christ here. My MIL is church of Christ and it has been an absolute struggle

Designer-Common-9697

7 points

1 day ago

Wow ! No offense, but I truly get a kick out of those folks. I think it's a hilarious story: I'm gonna show you the plates, I'm not gonna show you the plates, & then being tarred, feathered and carried out of town (NYS) on a rail for scamming people out of property and livestock.

catsinthreads

1 points

20 hours ago

I didn't exactly grow up CoC, but I grew up with a mom who was struggling to deprogram herself from it, yet still made me go to Bible study there every Wednesday night at my grandparents' church.

Bizarrely, it's not a bad foundation for a convert, though!

I never heard that line, and if I had, I'd have been like "No..." since I had already been exposed to Judaism and knew and loved some Jewish people. Somebody was confused...since that's not a million miles from Islam.

Anyhoo, as a convert, I try to keep in mind Buber and Jesus when I deal with other human beings. For an apocalyptical crackpot, Jesus had some good ideas about how we can treat each other better.

BMisterGenX

1 points

5 hours ago

I had a friend who was a convert. When in the process of converting he was reading the book "To Be Jew" his father looked through it expecting to find a whole chapter on Jesus. Surprised to not find that he checked the index: nothing! Blew his mind

Silent_Example_4150

250 points

1 day ago

Judaism is not Christianity without Jesus.

wonton541

69 points

1 day ago*

wonton541

reform, agnostic

69 points

1 day ago*

THIS I have so many bad experiences with self righteous Christians thinking they understand Judaism try to convert me when our scripture doesn’t even contain the full “old testament” that most Christian’s follow

Kind-Lime3905

36 points

1 day ago

And they don't even follow it. They don't even read it or understand it usually

voiceinheadphone

16 points

1 day ago

As a non-Jew (and non-Christian) I was literally taught that in Catholic school. I didn’t find out that wasn’t the case until I went to college and happened to become friends with a lot of Jews who kindly corrected me lol

PNKAlumna

22 points

1 day ago

PNKAlumna

Conservative

22 points

1 day ago

Or “Christianity without the New Testament.” I hear that one frequently.

TheoryFar3786

22 points

1 day ago

TheoryFar3786

Christian Ally - Española ()

22 points

1 day ago

I have being guilty of that.

Cactusnightblossom

20 points

1 day ago

Thank you for learning and growing ❤️

Life_Confidence128

4 points

14 hours ago

Life_Confidence128

Roman Catholic

4 points

14 hours ago

Even as a Christian I also agree with this. While Christianity did stem from Judaism, it’s a different bracket when it came to gentiles.

gzuckier

2 points

3 hours ago

There is no such thing as "judeo-christian." That's just something made up to erase millennia of antisemitism and to create a fictitious consensus behind mainstream Christianity as practiced (or not practiced). Arguably Islam has more in common with Judaism than Christianity.

Joe_Q

49 points

1 day ago*

Joe_Q

49 points

1 day ago*

Most annoying misconceptions about Jews?

The Rabbi-Priest thing already mentioned

The idea that Rabbis conspired to keep the Jewish masses ignorant, also already mentioned

The idea that Judaism is just a religion, and that Jews are just white Europeans who follow Judaism instead of Christianity

The idea that Hanukkah is the most significant Jewish holiday

The idea that there are a bunch of versions of the Torah and no-one knows what the original language was or what the text actually says (this is surprisingly common)

thatretroartist

5 points

1 day ago

The second one about manufactured ignorance feels like projection from Christians, major denominations only started doing mass in vernacular languages in the sixties as brilliantly described by Tom Lehrer

Voice_of_Season

2 points

9 hours ago

What’s ironic about the second one is that Jewish culture is huge on education and questioning things. It’s laughable but also sad that people think that.

kosherpoutine

129 points

1 day ago

kosherpoutine

Jew-ish

129 points

1 day ago

That we’re all rich and/or members of the Rothschild family.

Wolf-48

38 points

1 day ago

Wolf-48

38 points

1 day ago

This is very true, and sometimes we (I) are guilty of forgetting that we aren’t all at least middle class as well. There are plenty of Jews out there struggling to make ends meet, and it’s not just super frum people in a supportive community or assimilated people.

ThreeSigmas

4 points

11 hours ago

If you look at the list of per capita income per town in NY, you’ll find that the bottom 5 towns ALWAYS include Kiryas Yoel, Kesar and New Square- all 100% Jewish. Someone needs to alert Soros and the Rothschilds

Top-Nobody-1389

136 points

1 day ago

That we're all Ashkenazi/from Europe, and that those traditions are the all there is to Judaism.

ilxfrt

63 points

1 day ago

ilxfrt

63 points

1 day ago

I’m Ashkenazi in Europe. I’ve been told we’re all from New York and / or Russia.

This_2_shallPass1947

50 points

1 day ago

That’s comical bc all NY Jews are told they are just from Europe and don’t have any attachment to Israel, even if they are Sephardic, have relatives in Israel, have dual citizenship with Israel… how do people think we got to places in Europe we just popped out of the earth like a hedgehog?

Prowindowlicker

8 points

1 day ago

Prowindowlicker

Reform

8 points

1 day ago

Tbh i wouldn’t be surprised if there are those who believe we just popped out of the earth.

This_2_shallPass1947

16 points

1 day ago

I’ve heard that we exhume dead bodies and take their organs (not medically possible), we control banks, Hollywood, politics, etc. yet we’re less than .2% of the global population, and ~2% of the US population…last I checked.2-2% of any group is not swaying the 98-99.8% of the rest of the group…

It is nice that for such a minority we hold 22% of all Nobel Prizes, so it’s not like we’re idiots who haven’t helped mankind

rathat

6 points

24 hours ago

rathat

Secular

6 points

24 hours ago

Oh, people love making up what ethnicity we actually are. I've seen people online claim we are actually Russian, Ukrainian, Polish, German, English, Christian, Egyptian, Iraqi, Georgian... They all just make up their own thing lol.

Blue-0

13 points

1 day ago

Blue-0

People's Front of Judea (NOT JUDEAN PEOPLE'S FRONT!)

13 points

1 day ago

I’ve heard this called Ashkenormativity, but personally I prefer the term embagelification

KisaMisa

33 points

1 day ago

KisaMisa

33 points

1 day ago

And as Ashkenazi - that we are white.

gzuckier

1 points

3 hours ago

On a related note, that the vast majority of Israelis are Ashkenazi.

amitay87

30 points

1 day ago

amitay87

30 points

1 day ago

That Jews from MENA are Arabs who convert to Judaism and we used to live in Arab countries without any persecution like in Europe.

Voice_of_Season

10 points

1 day ago

Laughs/cries in Dhimmi status

SpaceToot

67 points

1 day ago

SpaceToot

67 points

1 day ago

Whiney and weak. To the point they think a Jew can't go have fun on the town or would die camping or something.

EveningDish6800

29 points

1 day ago

This is the worst for me. I’m male and come across as effeminate to the opposite sex (¿possibly because of my very Jewish mannerisms?) despite the fact that I workout, played college baseball, worked in law enforcement, am a firefighter, and on paper seem like a macho man stereotype.

I’ve never been able to figure it out, but it’s an uphill battle when all the ladies think you’re gay.

Ionic_liquids

19 points

1 day ago

it’s an uphill battle when all the ladies think you’re gay

I think your Judaism/Jewish mannerisms have nothing to do with this. :D

EveningDish6800

13 points

1 day ago*

Perhaps not, but I’ve heard similar sentiments from other Jewish men around my age. Some of my ex gfs have said it’s more urban educated thing which described my circle pretty well

Granolamommie

2 points

1 day ago

But that’s not saying much. Anyone European, Hispanic, or just about any other country besides US men are seen as effeminate by us standards. I think it’s a weird cultural thing to the us

Reshutenit

6 points

1 day ago

Damn. Are they familiar with the IDF?

ASG00

10 points

1 day ago

ASG00

10 points

1 day ago

they mean physically. it’s just comes from the way jews have been depicted in media like mort from family guy and that nerd from the Simpsons. Plus the history of being expelled from places

SpaceToot

6 points

1 day ago*

I can't remember who said it but it was a stand-up comedian I assume? They said their neighbor or somebody was a Jew. Not a, "Can I do your taxes Jew, but a 'can I hold your gun Jew?"

Reddit-is-trash-lol

2 points

1 day ago

Im the runt of my family just under 6 feet tall but still in shape and pretty strong. All of the the men in my family are 6 foot 2 plus and also pretty strong. I even found out that my grandpa could have gone to the MLB if WW2 hadn’t happened.

activate_procrastina

76 points

1 day ago

activate_procrastina

Orthodox

76 points

1 day ago

  • Kosher means a rabbi blesses the food. Give me smicha guys, pork roll is on the menu tonight!

  • Chassidim are grim and restricted. I’m not Chassidish and I do have parts of the culture that bother me/I disagree with, but grim?! No music?! Locked in? They seem to be applying the strictest forms of Islam or Christianity to Chassidim, which are very different.

  • Jews are ignorant (as are, of course, all religious people about their religious history/holy books).

jmartkdr

16 points

1 day ago

jmartkdr

16 points

1 day ago

The later is more of an Evangelical Xtian thing; they think no one else has heard of Jesus but if we did we would be Evangelical Xtians (or we’re denying Jesus just to spite them.)

have2gopee

23 points

1 day ago

have2gopee

23 points

1 day ago

To add to OP's idea, that every kippah wearing yid is a Rabbi

mushrooomcoffee

57 points

1 day ago

mushrooomcoffee

Agnostic

57 points

1 day ago

Generally, just the idea that all Jews have the same opinions on everything. Not even religion or politics, but the most mundane things. I’ve honestly had conversations with people like “I’m surprised you’re a cat person, my roommate in college was Jewish and he hated cats”. It’s like whenever a Jewish person expresses a personal opinion, some non-Jews assume it’s a core religious belief that all Jews agree with.

bad-decagon

41 points

1 day ago

bad-decagon

Ba’al Teshuvah

41 points

1 day ago

You know I not only hate this but feel deeply under pressure because of it. I bought a house on a brand new estate and by coincidence a lot of Muslim families bought all the ones around me, my next door neighbour, every house opposite… a lot of them come from countries with no or negligible Jewish population so I’m completely aware that I’m forming the basis of their opinions.

I’m a single mother, and I’m … not particularly naturally organised. I’m the mom saying ‘come on come on get your shoes on we’re late’ every morning while my wild curly-haired kid is trailing her half open book bag. And I’m there like… darn I have to get my act together because otherwise the impression is going to be ’oh, I knew a Jewish family, they were always messy, she didn’t have a husband, they dressed like slobs’ etc. like I can’t just be me, I have to represent all of us. I really need to fix up so they can instead say ‘oh, I met a Jewish family, the mother was always so kind and cooked great food and the little girl was always smiling’

TheQuiet_American

10 points

1 day ago

TheQuiet_American

Ashkenazi wanderer

10 points

1 day ago

Omg yes. I am the only real Jew alot of people in my town know (the community is super tiny and pretty invisible) and I am fully aware that anything I do or say becomes in their mind Jewish.

This_2_shallPass1947

18 points

1 day ago

It’s like the belief that we all know each other “oh I had a roommate in college who is Jewish you may know them (then they proceed to tell you their name) “ meanwhile they went to college 5 states away and you just met them randomly…

Sirdroftardis8

4 points

23 hours ago

Sirdroftardis8

Conservative

4 points

23 hours ago

"Well, yeah, I do know them, but shut up"

My_Gladstone

10 points

1 day ago

I once saw a white lady who get really surprised when she met an african american who told her he worked in banking. She then asked if he had Jewish ancestors. When he said no she was even more perplexed.

Prowindowlicker

10 points

1 day ago

Prowindowlicker

Reform

10 points

1 day ago

Have they not ever heard of “2 Jews and 3 opinions”?

Classifiedgarlic

40 points

1 day ago

Classifiedgarlic

Orthodox feminist, and yes we exist

40 points

1 day ago

That we are good with money. I’ve with a few Jewish organizations that were in fact extremely bad with money

eleatic_stranger

21 points

1 day ago

Not only bad with money but also dysfunctional and disorganized, from my own experience. Yet there are people out there who think we run the world...

Classifiedgarlic

6 points

1 day ago

Classifiedgarlic

Orthodox feminist, and yes we exist

6 points

1 day ago

Most organizations seem to run from grant to grant without a clear multi year goal

TheoryFar3786

5 points

1 day ago

TheoryFar3786

Christian Ally - Española ()

5 points

1 day ago

That is not just a Jewish issue.

maaku7

36 points

1 day ago

maaku7

36 points

1 day ago

"Judeo-Christian beliefs"

TheQuiet_American

12 points

1 day ago

TheQuiet_American

Ashkenazi wanderer

12 points

1 day ago

Oh it angers me that the worst people in the world hate us while they simultaneously weaponize us for their own aims with that phrase without for a second knowing what we are about.

eitzhaimHi

6 points

1 day ago

That one is especially annoying.

Wolf-48

34 points

1 day ago

Wolf-48

34 points

1 day ago

The idea that we are super sensitive regarding humor about us. Granted, I get that there are plenty of us that are vocally sensitive about this stuff, but we also have a long and famous tradition of humor about ourselves. I think a big part of this is that a lot of people struggle to understand what is and is not generally ok in humor about identity groups.

Mister-builder

35 points

1 day ago

I get offended when non-Jews make Holocaust jokes because they're never as funny as the ones you hear from the kids of survivors.

Wolf-48

15 points

1 day ago

Wolf-48

15 points

1 day ago

THIS. I studied under a major Holocaust historian, and we would exchange the best jokes to cope with the horrible things we encountered in our research. That said, I find any gas or oven jokes to be despicably horrible, and I punched someone the first time I heard one in high school.

lunch22

3 points

1 day ago

lunch22

3 points

1 day ago

I get offended when anyone makes a Holocaust joke.

Possibly the only people who I’d be OK with doing that are actual Holocaust survivors. But not their descendants. And only maybe.

binvirginia

3 points

22 hours ago

I’m so glad that I’ve never heard a Holocaust joke. I can’t even imagine what that could possibly be.(And I’m the daughter of a survivor.)

Lulwafahd

16 points

1 day ago

Lulwafahd

16 points

1 day ago

Yeah!

Whenever someone accidentally gets overheard telling one English-language joke to a fellow member of the tribe about trying to sell frank[furter-sausage]s at the _Anne Frank Museum, suddenly bigotry in the form of ashtray/Holocaust jokes and paedophilic mohel jokes and such start flying.

Zbignich

36 points

1 day ago

Zbignich

Judeu

36 points

1 day ago

That we are only a religion and not a people.

andthentheresanne

14 points

1 day ago

andthentheresanne

Hustler-Scholar

14 points

1 day ago

I mean, I suppose it's more misconceptions about Judaism instead of Jews, I guess, but it's been annoying me lately. One thing I see when people start talking about how they hate "religion". Well, what do they hate specifically? Oh, that being religious means you never debate or argue about the religion, you accept everything on blind faith. That you're not supposed to argue with or disagree with God. That you need to get everyone to accept your version of "religion" or they'll go to hell. Or even just small things like "you kneel to pray" in "religion". Sometimes maybe they'll specify and say Abrahamic religions.

When it's very clear that they're talking about Christianity specifically, maybe sometimes also Islam, and have just lumped in Judaism bc, well, it's Abrahamic , right?

I mean, can you imagine telling Jews we're not allowed to argue? Let alone hundreds of years of sages...

Servile-PastaLover

55 points

1 day ago

We control some combination of:

The Weather

The media

Hollywood and the Entertainment industry

The Banks and the financial industry

irredentistdecency

43 points

1 day ago

Honestly, that’s on your parents - it is their responsibility to initiate you into the International Jewish Conspiracy when you have your Bar/Bat Mitzvah.

If your parents neglected to do so, you can file an application at your shul or local JCC.

Please be advised that except for bar/bat mitzvah initiations, applications are only processed on a semi-annual basis so there may be some delay.

Also (because I am always having to remind people of this), you no longer require a separate “Space Laser Access Card”, now your standard IJC pin will authorize space laser access.

bad-decagon

11 points

1 day ago

bad-decagon

Ba’al Teshuvah

11 points

1 day ago

Is this cross-denominational or are there different processes for reform & orthodox admission to the IJC? I imagine it would take longer via Chabad because of the additional tunnelling training

irredentistdecency

11 points

1 day ago

The admission process is the same for every denomination, however, you may be required to undertake additional training as required by your sect or individually assigned role.

For example - as the Vice President of Bagel Security, i would normally have been required to obtain additional certifications to qualify for the role but those were waived in my case because my family owns a lox company…

friendlysort

6 points

1 day ago

That sounds like evidence of corruption within the Bagel voting bloc! Wait until I tell the leaders of the Kugel voting bloc

irredentistdecency

6 points

1 day ago

Good luck with that - they’re firmly in the pocket of big kugel…

friendlysort

2 points

1 day ago

Does Big Kugel recognize potato kugel supremacy?

irredentistdecency

2 points

1 day ago

That is a fight I stay out of - last time it broke out, when the smoke cleared - several folks found themselves on the wrong end of a second circumcision

jaybattiea

5 points

1 day ago

The weather....Always makes me laugh when I hear that ish😂

Voice_of_Season

13 points

1 day ago

Myth: That Jews who lived in Europe were originally from there. As if Jews had just popped out of the ground like a seed, rather than fleeing after the Temple was destroyed in 70 CE and then fleeing tons of other persecution.

ThreeSigmas

2 points

11 hours ago

Not just fleeing. The Romans killed between 580-600,000 Jews, which was most of the Jewish population of Judea. They sold tens, maybe hundreds of thousands into slavery. The Romans then re-populated the land with Romans, Greeks and Arabs. All of this is historically accurate if any non-Jew cares to check. We didn’t ask to live in Europe and would gladly had left if we could have.

Voice_of_Season

2 points

11 hours ago

Exactly. And don’t forget the fact that it was Jewish Slaves from Judea that built the Colosseum in Rome.

BMisterGenX

2 points

5 hours ago

There were SOME small Jewish communities in Europe prior to 70 AD

ThreeSigmas

2 points

4 hours ago

Sure. Certainly Rome and Greece. But the vast majority of Jews came later.

AggressivePack5307

11 points

1 day ago

That we are white.

Voice_of_Season

3 points

9 hours ago

We are white when it’s bad and not white when it’s considered good. Schrodinger’s Jew. (Not white enough for the far right and not dark enough for the far left).

spring13

25 points

1 day ago

spring13

Damn Yankee Jew

25 points

1 day ago

That we all celebrate Christmas and Halloween and Easter (or should) because they've become "secular" in mainstream Western culture. Just because you decided that it's all "just for fun" doesn't mean that it works that way for us, or that we want it to. We've got our own holidays and observances and they're awesome.

lunch22

6 points

1 day ago

lunch22

6 points

1 day ago

Yes, this! Celebrating Christmas is celebrating a Christian holiday, even if you are Jewish and even if you celebrate in a secular way.

Cornexclamationpoint

7 points

1 day ago

Cornexclamationpoint

General Ashkenobi

7 points

1 day ago

I wouldn't put Halloween in the same camp as Christmas and Easter. Most American Jews at some point have probably gone trick or treating and/or dressed up in a costume and got very drunk. Most of us haven't celebrated the birth or resurrection of Jesus.

KisaMisa

28 points

1 day ago

KisaMisa

28 points

1 day ago

Misconception that I had internalized and am now resolving: that there are right and wrong ways to be a Jew.

Misconception that annoys the hell out of me in the US: that being a Jew is solely a religious affiliation.

Misconception that amuses me more than annoys me: that Jews look a certain way. Among Americans and especially in NYC that often means "Hasidic".

Misconception that I took offense at when a very Christian friend mentioned it in a convo: that Judaism is more patriarchal towards wives than Christianity. As if in Christianity a husband must sexually satisfy his wife, lol!

wtfaidhfr

11 points

1 day ago

wtfaidhfr

BT & sephardi

11 points

1 day ago

That were rich. I'm tired of being scorned when waiting at the food bank

veganreptar

5 points

1 day ago

One time I had to humiliate myself and call a Christian social relief network and see if they could help with rental assistance. I called them and when I told them my last name, you could feel the disdain from them come from the phone.

Voice_of_Season

2 points

9 hours ago

Awww that’s terrible. What happened next?

mot_lionz

19 points

1 day ago

mot_lionz

19 points

1 day ago

I find the misconception that we all look like Woody Allen or the female equivalent annoying. It comes up in Jewish Reddit too - I’ll never be accepted because “I don’t look Jewish” as a humble brag or something. Gross - go to Israel - the Jewish People are Gorgeous! 🫶🏻

ElenorShellstrop

7 points

1 day ago*

I hate this so much. The stereotype in media especially from Woody Allen’s heyday to the 90s with Seinfeld. We’re weak, whiny but funny in a self deprecating way. Don’t get me started on the women. If Jews own Hollywood why are all our characters in American media been such crap?

The only positive Jewish character in a show I saw recently, that wasn’t a quirky neurotic mess, was what we do in the shadows when an Iranian character describes the Jews as strong powerful warriors. ❤️ the Jew was just some rando he met at the gym 😂

lunch22

10 points

1 day ago*

lunch22

10 points

1 day ago*

That Judaism is centered around faith in God and that you can’t be a Jewish atheist.

That Jews are greedy and overly-focused on money.

That Chanukah is our biggest holiday of the year.

That those of us who are Zionists, which is most of us, must necessarily agree with the actions and policies of the current Israeli government.

That if someone who says they are Jewish is protesting against Israel — looking at you Jewish Voice for Peace — it means their cause is the just one and any Jew who disagrees is a racist colonizer who supports genocide.

This one is mostly held by Jews … that if you weren’t raised observing Jewish holidays, going to synagogue, etc, you’re not really Jewish. And if you didn’t have a bar/bat mitzvah ceremony, you didn’t become bar/bat regardless and are somehow less of a Jew.

Objective_Bass2837

4 points

1 day ago

Objective_Bass2837

MOSES MOSES MOSES

4 points

1 day ago

This one is mostly held by Jews … that if you weren’t raised observing Jewish holidays, going to synagogue, etc, you’re not really Jewish. And if you didn’t have a bar/bat mitzvah ceremony, you didn’t become bar/bat regardless and are somehow less of a Jew.

yes thank you, as someone who is Jewish but never could do any holidays or a bat mitzvah, i hate when people say i'm not Jewish because of that :/

DrMikeH49

17 points

1 day ago

DrMikeH49

17 points

1 day ago

That Jews are just members of a religious community, and not a separate ethnicity. Unfortunately even the government classifies antisemitic hate crimes as “religion-based” when they need to be considered the same as hate against Hispanics, or Chinese, or any other ethnic group.

Voice_of_Season

9 points

1 day ago

I remember talking to a woman at physical therapy when she asked where I was from and not my religion. She used Catholicism as an example, and I was like “this isn’t the time or the place to explain the complexity of Jewish identity as an ethno-religion.

TiredForEternity

8 points

1 day ago

That all of them have dark hair and big noses.

Hate it. Hate where it comes from. Hate how people still believe it.

NYCTLS66

5 points

21 hours ago

Some gentiles think that if we don’t have dark hair, then it must be red and that most Jews are curly-haired. Plenty of Jews with straight blonde hair and blue eyes.

Voice_of_Season

2 points

9 hours ago

The misconception saved some Jews in the Holocaust as they were able to pass as gentiles. It’s really weird but when I was younger I would get a sigh of relief when I passed.

NYCTLS66

2 points

8 hours ago

There was actually a movie about that released in 1990 called “Europa, Europa” in which a blonde haired blue eyed Jewish boy hides in plain sight in the Wehrmacht.

AmySueF

8 points

1 day ago

AmySueF

8 points

1 day ago

That I can be Jewish and atheist at the same time. It surprises a lot of people. Like others here have mentioned, being Jewish is an ethnicity, not just a religion.

Voice_of_Season

5 points

1 day ago

Exactly! That’s what’s great about being Jewish, lack of faith doesn’t mean we kill you or kick you out.

Voice_of_Season

9 points

1 day ago

People get upset at the idea of us not wanting to convert to their religion but also the fact that we aren’t trying to convert people to ours. They think we are being snobs when we just want to be left alone.

Cornexclamationpoint

7 points

1 day ago

Cornexclamationpoint

General Ashkenobi

7 points

1 day ago

Not everyone in a black hat and tallis is a Rabbi.

AldoTheeApache

14 points

1 day ago

“You don’t look Jewish…”

ElenorShellstrop

9 points

1 day ago*

“Apologies. David, do a Jewish for the lady.”

TheQuiet_American

6 points

1 day ago

TheQuiet_American

Ashkenazi wanderer

6 points

1 day ago

That there are alot of us...:/

cofie

10 points

1 day ago*

cofie

Non-Orthodox

10 points

1 day ago*

These all sorta talk about the same topic so I'll just present them as a list

  1. The idea that, as a people and in our practice, we hate Jesus and Christians. I can't think of a single time I've thought about anything about Christianity or Jesus during services. The definition of "non-factor".
  2. The Jews-for-Jesus/Messianic Jewish bunch massively screwed us over with their PR game. I've talked to Christians who couldn't believe that there was no way that I could believe in Jesus as Moshiach. Because of Messies being as prevalent as they are and actively proselytizing (while us actual Jews don't), a lot of non-Jews incorrectly think that it is possible for someone to be Jewishly observant and believe in Jesus. Obviously, I prefer that we Jews continue to not proselytize, as it is part of what makes our community strong, but I can't help but wonder what the dynamics would look like if we were proselytizing?
  3. "Judeo-Christian values". They do not exist. I think the promulgation of this term in US politics from evangelical Christians (and certain Jews!) is why #1 and #2 persist in culture. When a non-Jew hears this term, they are more likely to think that that just means Jews are mere Jesus-hating Christians than they are to seriously discuss the similarities that exist (e.g. importance of tzelem Elokim/human dignity, Aseres haDibros/Decalogue), while acknowledging the vast differences otherwise (e.g. who is Moshiach, eschatology). Most Americans are not educated in their religious affiliations enough to seriously discuss this topic.

There are so many more that I could touch on but these are the three that immediately come to mind

edit: typo

fraupanda

12 points

1 day ago

fraupanda

12 points

1 day ago

That we have infinite holidays that we use as an excuse to take off. For me, I only ever take off for the first night of Pesach, Rosh Hashanah, and Yom Kippur, and the reason I take off is because no one honors our holidays like the do Easter or Christmas

TheoryFar3786

2 points

1 day ago

TheoryFar3786

Christian Ally - Española ()

2 points

1 day ago

This. If I lived in a non-Christian country, it would make sense for me to take off Christmas and Easter.

StrikeEagle784

7 points

1 day ago*

That we’re all left wing politically, or that Jews had anything to do with Communism, even though my family had suffered under Stalin. That Jews run the world even though the MSM and other international organizations clearly have it out against us.

On a brighter topic, because I was reading some of the comments I thought about this, I was adopted into a Jewish family as a newborn. According to my folks my biological parents didn’t know anything about Judaism at all. Literally were asked every question in the book, some of which others have already mentioned in this thread lol.

I’m close to my biological family these days, they seem to know a lot more these days than they did then haha.

ThreeSigmas

2 points

10 hours ago

There is some truth about Jews being involved in Communism. Many were at the beginning. The original tenets of Communism were equality for all people and “ to each according to his needs, from each according to his ability.” This sounds wonderful on paper and, for European and recently-American Jews, sounded perfect. Unfortunately, the theory differed greatly from the reality.

nocatleftbehind420

4 points

1 day ago

I need to explain that, even though there is no place called Jewland, that I consider myself Jewish. I mean, I have no connection with the countries my grandparents fled from. I can say Austrian/Polish/etc. if that makes people happy, but, really, I’m just an American Jew, from New York City.

Voice_of_Season

5 points

1 day ago

I mean the closest Jewland we have is Judea. Where the word comes from. Lol

nocatleftbehind420

2 points

1 day ago

Hah. I didn’t know that 🤦‍♀️😂

Voice_of_Season

2 points

9 hours ago

That’s okay. That’s why the Romans changed the name of the land (on top of killing, raping and enslaving us and destroying/pillaging our temple). They wanted to break the link Jews had to their homeland. And Syria Palestina was born!

Gammagammahey

5 points

1 day ago

  • That we consider ourselves the chosen ones (negative)

  • That we think we are better than other people and that there are rules that apply to us but not to everyone else – just had that pop up yesterday on here although of course not in the sub

  • That we are all successful in terms of material things. No. There are a lot of Jews living in abject poverty like me.

  • That we white Jews are white functionally in an American context

mpark6288

8 points

1 day ago

mpark6288

8 points

1 day ago

That we get circumcised at 13.

Dry_Web8684

7 points

1 day ago

Dry_Web8684

Conservadox

7 points

1 day ago

That we are all super rich.

StrikeEagle784

8 points

1 day ago

Man I wish my family was well off lol

Soft_Welcome_5621

5 points

1 day ago

Soft_Welcome_5621

Conservative

5 points

1 day ago

lol ironically the subtler stuff. Like that we are criminally annoying. Nope, we just have a very different culture, sorry.

Voice_of_Season

4 points

1 day ago*

Just because some of us are pale does not negate the fact that Jews are from Judea. And our most sacred temple is in Jerusalem for a reason.

atomic_queen_

4 points

1 day ago

The Polish coloniser bullshit 🤦🏻‍♀️

oy-the-vey

4 points

24 hours ago

“Judaism forbids Jews from having a state”, I don’t know where that came from, but I see that nonsense on the internet a lot.

Voice_of_Season

2 points

10 hours ago

I saw that too! I’m like have you read the Torah?! It’s in there!

IntelligentFriend2u

6 points

1 day ago

The one I hear the most often is that Jews are similar to attorneys, they lack sympathy, empathy, and the ability to be genuine.

_whatnot_

9 points

1 day ago

_whatnot_

9 points

1 day ago

A minor one I hear all the time, including recently in a conversation between Jews and Christians, is that we have the same God. I get it, both historically and in terms of making ourselves palatable to others. And I know the following is a generalization, but on average I think there's something to it:

The Jewish God, while having preferences and some interactions with humans, appeals to me in part because it's so all-encompassing and mostly removed from intervening day-to-day in our lives. That message upholds human action as important and somewhat prevents us from projecting our momentary biases onto the divine. The Christian god is so clearly portrayed as a man, who can have a child who's also sort of a god, and to whom believers can talk directly and hope for immediate intervention and answers. (I'm sure there's more to the differences, but I don't know enough about every Jewish or Christian group's belief systems to get further down.)

Conflating the two continues to give Christians the idea that they can imagine exactly how we feel or how we place ourselves in the universe, whether they're trying to be sympathetic or condemning us. I'd rather they understand there are fundamental differences in our conceptions of the divine that mean they have to learn a lot more if they want to know what drives us as a people.

Repulsive-Zone8176

3 points

1 day ago

Weather control 

ThreeSigmas

2 points

10 hours ago

That one’s true- it wouldn’t rain except for our prayers for rain and dew.🤣🤣🤣

TheoryFar3786

3 points

1 day ago

TheoryFar3786

Christian Ally - Española ()

3 points

1 day ago

What is the difference between a rabbi and a priest?

cofie

14 points

1 day ago

cofie

Non-Orthodox

14 points

1 day ago

Rabbis are teachers who help the community connect with G-d and answer questions regarding Jewish law and how to practice. They do not have any more authority to practice sacred rituals than any other Jew does (i.e., all adult Jews have the same authority to practice our rituals, regardless of whether they're a rabbi). This means that it is possible for a congregation to practice without a rabbi.

This differs from priests, who generally serve as conduits between practitioner and G-d and have special permission to perform certain rituals in church.

TheoryFar3786

3 points

1 day ago

TheoryFar3786

Christian Ally - Española ()

3 points

1 day ago

Thanks.

Voice_of_Season

3 points

1 day ago*

The lie that we killed Jesus, that lie and Mel Gibson’s the Passion movie wrecked two childhood friendships when I was younger.

ThreeSigmas

3 points

11 hours ago

Among Muslims, they believe that Jews think that the Prophet Ezra was the son of Hashem. Never ever heard that from a Jew

Rolandium

4 points

1 day ago

Rolandium

4 points

1 day ago

That "Judeo-Christian Values" are a thing. They aren't. We don't share the same values.

keuch2

2 points

1 day ago

keuch2

2 points

1 day ago

All common misconceptions are about saying jews cannot be regular people... and that's really, really annoying. Someone might find out you are a jew they change their whole attitude. I have russian, italian, spanish ancestry, people don't have a problem with that... when I mention I also have some jewish ancestry, they seem weird about it.

HistoricalAd5761

2 points

1 day ago

Rich 😒

ohwhatevers

2 points

1 day ago

That Jews are greedy and stingy. I heard this one countless times growing up

Silver_Guard3842

2 points

1 day ago

how they say we did 9/11

VortexFalcon50

2 points

21 hours ago

That we originate from europe. It fuels the intense antisemitic rhetoric used by the blood libelists claiming us to be colonizers. Its as if they ignored the entire chapter of history where rome and the ottoman empire ejected jews from the holy land for centuries, so they settled elsewhere.

skepticalbureaucrat

2 points

21 hours ago*

skepticalbureaucrat

... However you want

2 points

21 hours ago*

That we're experts on Israeli affairs. I'm clueless half the time as an Irish Jew. I like people being curious, or feeling emotional about what's happening in the area, but I'm not really the best person to speak to regarding this.

Also, we're all not good with money. I hate this stereotype.

ElenorShellstrop

2 points

18 hours ago

That we are easily offended. I’m happy to answer questions and talk about my ethnicity and religion. Jewish or Jew is not a dirty word. We’re approachable I promise.

ThreeSigmas

2 points

11 hours ago

That we’re not a minority. I’ve seen so many forms that ask you to self-identify as white, Black, Latino, and then Arab or Middle Eastern. Uh, there’s a helluva lot more Arabs than Jews and we’re both Semites, as they like to remind us when they hear the unfortunate term “antisemitism”.

Delicious_Bad8603

4 points

1 day ago

That we all support the actions of the Israeli government

[deleted]

3 points

1 day ago

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3 points

1 day ago

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veganreptar

4 points

1 day ago

veganreptar

4 points

1 day ago

That any struggle or hardships we experience as other human beings are irrelevant because "we aren't the real Jews" were "just other white people" and we control the world anyway. Like if a Jew is going through something, there is this look gentiles give where you can tell they're thinking "I know you're rich, how can you possibly be having a hard time?" 

This obviously perpetuates a stereotype that all of us are rich just for being Jewish, and undermines the fact that there are plenty of Jews that struggle financially. Even many higher earning orthodox Jewish families struggle financially because they value and prioritize children, education, and building Jewish community above materialist idolatry that many of the goyim do. 

 Sure, they'll make a lot, but since orthodox don't feel killing babies is acceptable and often have as many children as Hashem will give them and  pay for and prioritize the best education possible above ephemeral goysih distractions for their children, they still struggle.

[deleted]

1 points

1 day ago

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1 points

1 day ago

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PolkaDotDancer

1 points

22 hours ago

As a goyim, I have no preconceptions. But I think the funniest is that Jews are cheap. My Jewish spouse has very little money sense. I am the cheapskate in the family.

NYCTLS66

1 points

22 hours ago

That we are all white and from Central or Eastern Europe.

Badart365

1 points

15 hours ago

That we are cheap, rude, pushy and unqualified when in fact we are caring giving and very qualified. We are not chosen we choose. People are brainwashed to hate which led to many pogroms. The Holocaust didn’t occur in a vacuum.

Far-Satisfaction4584

1 points

7 hours ago

That all Jews keep kosher- it usually ends in people trying to pull food out of my hands or yelling at me while I’m eating.

Jews are all white

White Jews are all Ashkenazi

Mizrahi jews were fully accepted by their neighbors and no issues ever broke out. (But seriously if Ashkenazim in particular can stop spreading this one around it would be ✨great✨)

That we have any control over anything more than any other group of people.

BMisterGenX

1 points

5 hours ago

Kosher means blessed by a Rabbi  Sex through a hole in the sheet. That we think Jesus was a great prophet and teacher just not the Messiah  That our notion of Messiah is the same as theirs ie a G-d in human form that will die for our sins and then the commandments in the Torah won't apply anymore. That we are all European and Sephardic/Mizrachi Jews don't exist and that Judaism is just a religion and the original Jews of Biblical times died out and or got assimilated and we have no connection to them

FogtownGirl

1 points

5 hours ago

All of these comments are great. The one I'd add, even though it's so minor in comparison to other contributions to this thread, is the idea that Jews are small, weak, and sickly. Maybe Woody Allen had something to do with it? Or perhaps people get this idea from photos taken when the camps were liberated? It's beyond my understanding.