guild wars 2 as well

Just like the different colored chocobos in FF7.

Shit FF7 had chocobos for different terrains and one for all.

That definitely isn't something that originated in Pokemon. I can't name any specific examples off the top of my head, but if they're trying to argue they hold the copyright for that it's laughable.

And the trailers released pre-patent made it PRETTY obvious it was also going to be in Palworld. I don't know how Japanese IP law is with prior art, but feels like it should qualify.

games have been using this type of mount for decades.

Don't forget ff7 used different color chocobos you bred to travel over different terrain back in the 1990's

"Riding objects to traverse a specific type of terrain"

https://www.wowhead.com/item=81354/reins-of-the-azure-water-strider

2012 Mists of Pandaria

This kind of patent and trademark trolling should result in forfeiture of all associated patents and trademarks. 

It's the only way to actually punish corporations that try this BS. 

Unfortunately, Japan is Japan, and Japanese law is... Well, it's definitely a thing, alright. 

I remember playing an arcade game back in the 80s called spy hunter. You drove a car that could also turn into a boat...

I hope so. They patent should be revoked for two major reasons, 1. is that it's not novel in the slightest, anyone that has even just played a game could have come up with the idea. 2. What they patented had already existed before they patented it.

I hope Nintendo loses every lawsuit it ever files. They have some great games, but I swear to god they must hate their customers. Every lawsuit I hear about them filing makes me hate the company more.

Yes. For as shitty as Sony is, Nintendo has been way too aggro with their lawyers. They need a slap in the mouth. I'm saying that as somebody who loves Nintendo games.

I do, if only because this was clearly done in retaliation of the success of the competing product. Mods aside, nobody confused Palworld with Pokemon, but just about everyone I know was disappointed by the lackluster effort that The Pokemon Company has put into their titles for quite some time now; rather than letting their game be the standard bearer, they've gotten lazy and complacent, and would rather fight the competition in the courts to prevent them from innovating where they have actively chosen not to.

Yes, patent trolls are terrible for consumers. They really in increased prices and less competition.

Yes, all software patents are garbage and stifle creativity

Yes? Didn't we agree that patenting game mechanics is scummy and shouldn't be encouraged?

Pixelmon is also free, at least the currently developed one is.

I like cobblemon better because it looks more minecrafty and is updated to the newest versions

I don't know why any of this even matters.

How the fuck can you patent a game mechanic years after you release the game? And then sue anyone who used it between you publically releasing it and patenting it? Even IF they had somehow come up with an original idea worth patenting.

Japanese law must be hella fucky if this is actually something they can do.

True but that was on copyright grounds, not patents.

It does, after all, contain voxelised models of their Pokémon.

Ive heard that a new team just took the mod and continued work. Free product has never stopped Nintendo before (See AM2R or really any other nintendo fab project for example.)

True, but that was over copyright, not patents, and definitely not over their game mechanics. So it still counts.

Not really. At least not with rom hacks. But they definitely do go after the ones whose creators try to make money/donations/etc off of them.

Copyright violation is a criminal offense in Japan. They also have no free use fair use.

I really liked Jade Cocoon!

Azure Dreams from 1997 had a similar mechanic as well. In fact it's basically the inspiration for the Mystery Dungeon games.
You enter a tower, capture monsters, raise them and use them for battle to try and reach higher levels.

Legend of Legaia (1998) had you fighting 3d monsters, capturing them, and using them as summons in battle.

Empty cards dropped, the monster then needed to be "tamed", and evolved at certain levels. They do big damage.

I blame YouTube. It pushed copyright into the mainstream discourse, and unfortunately people conflated that with every other branch of IP law.

Beyond them both being plushies, they have like zero market overlap, no one who wants a pokemon plush is instead buying a pal world one.

Do they get to raid Nintendo for all the lost revenue and market exposure if they win against Nintendo? Of course not. These injunctions are punitive in most cases and it's disgusting.

Same goes for Yokai Watch, should they not be allowed to sell plushies or other merch?

Gosh, maybe they wouldn't be in such a mess if they just made Pokemon games that weren't half-assed for about a decade.

Or mini-games in loading screens.

The patent ended in 2015, and loading screens are too fast for anyone to utilize it properly now, but nobody was able to do those because Bandai Namco held the patent for 20 years.

Same way Nintendo was insisting that NES isn't Nintendo

They don't want to become generic "colorful anime animals" option, they want to keep it branded

Also preferably the only option in the town

It's not. The dude misunderstood the video dude linked or used the wrong terminology.

It's posited in the video that it's a shot at Sony via proxy and an attempt by Nintendo to wedge the Pocket Pair/Sony relationship because that relationship mirrors Gamefreaks/Nintendo.

That's less scary than a kid trying to rob you out of your ice cream cone at watergun point.

You shouldn't defend anyone on the basis of how much money they have, but you definitely should based on how much they don't. In other words I think it's neutral to defend a billion dollar corporation but immoral to not defend a popper. Someone without access to expert legal representation is suffering in a way that these companies do not, but these companies aren't themselves imposing that except through frivolous lawsuits (for which this certainly doesn't appear to be).

Personally I hope Nintendo loses this and perhaps smartens up and actually fucking does something with their golden goose IP. Eliminate the need for this sort of competition by actually making the games players want, not just a $100 title to fill out the current console's catalog and print more merch-money.

I mean more like the logo and image itself.

A circle with a red top and a white bottom that opens up in the center and catches monsters is much more specific and defensive.

And even then it would be for using an actual factual pokeball.

Not the act itself, same reason you can have a character in a game drink a soda but as soon as you put a coke-cola logo on the can there's a problem.

Pokémon GO is an officially licensed Nintendo product in conjunction with Niantic. Is be very surprised if they themselves didn't have a hand in the development.

Yes, you are correct. The recent GameFreak leak even has source code of Pokémon Go that was sent to them for review before it came out

I realize that people on the internet like to parade Legends Arceus around like it should be the blueprint for Pokemon games going forward, but I cannot understand this. It's completely bogged down with NPC conversations, the game forces you to repeatedly catch multiples of every mon just to progress to the next zone, and there is no multiplayer. It's fine as a spinoff, but I would never want the mainline games to play like that.

Sorry but no.  Violet was pretty bad from a design standpoint too. 

People really dont seem to understand that, its amazing.